General & Others Reminder that the Straw Hats that went to WCI easily escaped. Comparing WCI to Egghead

#1
Seeing how some maybe forgot, but remember that back in WCI. Luffy, Sanji, Nami, Brook, Chopper, and Carrot were able to escape from Big Mom and her entire military force.

It's a bit dumb and hypocritical seeing some people downplay the Gorosei and Kizaru for not defeating and killing the Straw Hats at Egghead, when even a Yonko and her entire pirate crew couldn't do anything either.

Just like how Oda used plot to hold back Big Mom during WCI, he is doing the same thing with the Gorosei and Kizaru at Egghead.

Other than not being able to kill the Straw Hats because of plot, the Gorosei don't want to destroy Egghead, that is also one of the reasons why Kizaru couldn't go all out either.

Before anyone says that WCI had more tension, ehhhh kind of but not really.(Still more tension than Wano at least)

Chapter 871: The chapter were the BMP defeats almost everyone, in that same chapter, the tamatabako explodes pretty much saving everyone.

In both arcs, we had someone sacrificing themselves to save the Straw Hats.

In WCI it was Pedro who sacrificed himself to save the Straw Hats and Carrot.

And in Egghead it was Atlas who sacrificed herself to save the Straw Hats and Lilith.

Remember this right here? Don't worry they are perfectly fine in the next chapter and Big Mom never used that attack ever again.

Remember when we thought that Oven killed Pound? Yeah don't worry he ended up surviving.

Remember these?

Chapter 897: It looks like Sanji and Luffy might done for. Nope don't worry, in the same chapter, the Germa comes in and saves them.

Damn it looks like this is the end.

Nope they are all ok.

Also despite the cliffhanger of the arc, guess what? Jinbe and the Sun Pirates all managed to escape, and even the entire Germa with the exception of Niji and Yonji also managed to escape.

Honestly Egghead isn't any different than WCI when you think about it.

You have moments like when it seems the Pacifistas are going to shoot them down and kill them, only in the next chapter they are fine.

Oh no Bonney is about die. Nope don't worry, she ends up being fine.

Warcury is about to crash into the Elbaf Ship. Don't worry Emet comes in and saves them.

Also reminder that when it comes to the Gorosei mainly Warcury, Mars, and Ju Peter.

G5 Luffy couldn't do anything to Warcury and then you have Luffy, Dorry, and Brogy running away from him.

It took Luffy, Bonney, Sanji, and Franky all together just to send Mars away.

Emet a powerful robot from the void century needs to be used to stall two of the Gorosei, one of whom Ju Peter easily bit its arm off like nothing.

Some are saying that Egghead has zero tension, and while that is kind of true.

Remember it's because of the Giants and Emet's help, Atlas and Edison's sacrifice, and maybe soon Kizaru(If it does happen) that the Straw Hats and others will be able to escape from Egghead.

The problem right now, is that some people either have recency bias or they are just blinded by power levels that they simply ignore the plot.

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#6
I hated the PIS in WCI even more than this arc.

But this arc still fails at tension in a whole other way. I don't feel like the crew is in danger, look at Sanji and Franky who got attacked by 4 top tiers yet are completely unharmed. This is after spending a day fighting seraphim without sleep.The marine forces are non-existent despite being right beside them.
 
#7
I hated the PIS in WCI even more than this arc.

But this arc still fails at tension in a whole other way. I don't feel like the crew is in danger, look at Sanji and Franky who got attacked by 4 top tiers yet are completely unharmed. This is after spending a day fighting seraphim without sleep.The marine forces are non-existent despite being right beside them.
It's just too obvious that Big Mom and her crew should have easily squashed the Straw Hats, Sun Pirates, Firetank Pirates and Germa 66 if the plot armor, PIS and Forgot about their powers trope weren't so ridiculously strong in WCI arc. It was just so cringeworthy and painful to watch.

Wano was just the same where Kaido, BM and the Beast Pirates and BMP that came to Wano should have crushed the Straw Hat alliance this time too, and each time there were such plot armor, PIS, and ridiculous excuses to allow the Straw Hats and their allies to survive and win.

At no point it felt like the Straw Hats were in any danger, nor they were the underdogs, nor that they deserved or earned anything with their victories.

Egghead is just the same, except this time it's not a surprise at all anymore and Oda doesn't even bother to pretend that the Straw Hats are in danger anymore, and we have become used and jaded about it, even if we still aren't pleased about it.
 
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#8
The Straw Hats as a faction are astronomically more powerful now than they were at WCI. The Straw Hats also have the help of the Vegapunk’s and the Giant Warrior Pirates as well. Kizaru has also completely given up and the Jobosei suck.

The Straw Hats successfully escaping here shouldn’t be remotely controversial.
 
#10
Yeah but even though Big Mom was made to look foolish, it was also made crystal clear that Luffy wasn't even in the same dimension as her and almost died fighting her commander. They were on the back foot the entire time and were even captured and imprisoned.

Luffy in egghead was just twerking on everyone with the barest hint of danger, Kizaru gets one shot, giants handling them, even Bonney and Lanji were putting in work on the Gorosei. What happened to Big Mom was embarrassing for her on a level of competence. What happened to the world government here was just pathetic in every possible area.

And when you add to that, that this is just a side arc it speaks to their importance.
 
#14
Seeing how some maybe forgot, but remember that back in WCI. Luffy, Sanji, Nami, Brook, Chopper, and Carrot were able to escape from Big Mom and her entire military force.

It's a bit dumb and hypocritical seeing some people downplay the Gorosei and Kizaru for not defeating and killing the Straw Hats at Egghead, when even a Yonko and her entire pirate crew couldn't do anything either.

Just like how Oda used plot to hold back Big Mom during WCI, he is doing the same thing with the Gorosei and Kizaru at Egghead.

Other than not being able to kill the Straw Hats because of plot, the Gorosei don't want to destroy Egghead, that is also one of the reasons why Kizaru couldn't go all out either.

Before anyone says that WCI had more tension, ehhhh kind of but not really.(Still more tension than Wano at least)

Chapter 871: The chapter were the BMP defeats almost everyone, in that same chapter, the tamatabako explodes pretty much saving everyone.

In both arcs, we had someone sacrificing themselves to save the Straw Hats.

In WCI it was Pedro who sacrificed himself to save the Straw Hats and Carrot.

And in Egghead it was Atlas who sacrificed herself to save the Straw Hats and Lilith.

Remember this right here? Don't worry they are perfectly fine in the next chapter and Big Mom never used that attack ever again.

Remember when we thought that Oven killed Pound? Yeah don't worry he ended up surviving.

Remember these?

Chapter 897: It looks like Sanji and Luffy might done for. Nope don't worry, in the same chapter, the Germa comes in and saves them.

Damn it looks like this is the end.

Nope they are all ok.

Also despite the cliffhanger of the arc, guess what? Jinbe and the Sun Pirates all managed to escape, and even the entire Germa with the exception of Niji and Yonji also managed to escape.

Honestly Egghead isn't any different than WCI when you think about it.

You have moments like when it seems the Pacifistas are going to shoot them down and kill them, only in the next chapter they are fine.

Oh no Bonney is about die. Nope don't worry, she ends up being fine.

Warcury is about to crash into the Elbaf Ship. Don't worry Emet comes in and saves them.

Also reminder that when it comes to the Gorosei mainly Warcury, Mars, and Ju Peter.

G5 Luffy couldn't do anything to Warcury and then you have Luffy, Dorry, and Brogy running away from him.

It took Luffy, Bonney, Sanji, and Franky all together just to send Mars away.

Emet a powerful robot from the void century needs to be used to stall two of the Gorosei, one of whom Ju Peter easily bit its arm off like nothing.

Some are saying that Egghead has zero tension, and while that is kind of true.

Remember it's because of the Giants and Emet's help, Atlas and Edison's sacrifice, and maybe soon Kizaru(If it does happen) that the Straw Hats and others will be able to escape from Egghead.

The problem right now, is that some people either have recency bias or they are just blinded by power levels that they simply ignore the plot.

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Well, yeah. and the difference is not even close to Egghead. Each of Gorosei neg diffing Katakuri
 
#15
The Straw Hats as a faction are astronomically more powerful now than they were at WCI. The Straw Hats also have the help of the Vegapunk’s and the Giant Warrior Pirates as well. Kizaru has also completely given up and the Jobosei suck.

The Straw Hats successfully escaping here shouldn’t be remotely controversial.
You know what I find funny, despite the Straw Hats being much stronger compared to before, despite them being a Yonko Crew now, and despite the whole Nika stuff with Luffy.

They still need all this help plus the usual plot armor just to escape from Egghead.:milaugh:

Even throughout this arc, they so far defeated no villains.

None of the Gorosei were defeated.(I still think Saturn will be fine despite what happened)

Kizaru wasn't defeated either.

Even though Lucci lost his fight against Zoro, he still wasn't knocked out.
 
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