[FNZ] Salem of Lies Return of the Throne (Unofficial)

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AL sama

Red Haired
Angleshooting is defined as doing things, or applying rules, in ways they weren't intended in order to gain an advantage in a game. In mafia, a common example of this is using OGI (out of game information) to exert public pressure or influence on the game, to publicly give reads based on OGI, or in more extreme cases, to use information acquired through illegitimate means to covertly influence a game. Angleshooting also covers all intentional uses of any flaws/quirks in the forum software in order to subvert the spirit of the game.


also SHUT UP
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@AL sama what do want hear from me?
don't tell me you've no thoughts??
 

Light D Lamperouge

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So...what do you think about those pushing me before I claimed jailed?
Kiwi and Beta? I can understand Kiwi, she mentioned she sused you and when FB said he had some info on you it was logical to consider lynching you, I did the same. You were my top sus yesterday and when FB said he had something on you I was willing to vote for you later if nothing new came up.
Suffice it to say that I was disappointed with what FB revealed to have.


I don't know why he jumped the gun like that.
 

AL sama

Red Haired
Angleshooting is defined as doing things, or applying rules, in ways they weren't intended in order to gain an advantage in a game. In mafia, a common example of this is using OGI (out of game information) to exert public pressure or influence on the game, to publicly give reads based on OGI, or in more extreme cases, to use information acquired through illegitimate means to covertly influence a game. Angleshooting also covers all intentional uses of any flaws/quirks in the forum software in order to subvert the spirit of the game.

This definition is purposefully non-specific because angleshooting is more of a general idea than a specific case. Generally speaking, you know it when you see it, and it can range from relatively innocent/harmless to malicious and blatant cheating.

A good rule of thumb is if you're attempting to push a game in a particular direction, and your reasons for doing so are not based on what's directly happened in the game, or meta, you're in the danger zone.

The game of Mafia is firmly against angleshooting. If you are unsure if a particular action/read is angleshooting or not, (privately) ask the game host. If you encounter something in a game that you believe to be angleshooting, inform the game host and the game host will take a look at it.
 
Kiwi and Beta? I can understand Kiwi, she mentioned she sused you and when FB said he had some info on you it was logical to consider lynching you, I did the same. You were my top sus yesterday and when FB said he had something on you I was willing to vote for you later if nothing new came up.
Suffice it to say that I was disappointed with what FB revealed to have.


I don't know why he jumped the gun like that.
Well, the only role he could be is Butler if he is indeed a BD roleblocker. So I wonder why he didn't just claim if he is BD since it's obvious anyway.
 
Angleshooting is defined as doing things, or applying rules, in ways they weren't intended in order to gain an advantage in a game. In mafia, a common example of this is using OGI (out of game information) to exert public pressure or influence on the game, to publicly give reads based on OGI, or in more extreme cases, to use information acquired through illegitimate means to covertly influence a game. Angleshooting also covers all intentional uses of any flaws/quirks in the forum software in order to subvert the spirit of the game.


also SHUT UP
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don't tell me you've no thoughts??
How about you make me shut up? Don't use likes as sus and don't use your knowledge of Reborn's timezone as an advantage. Then we have no problem. If you continue to do so then I will ask for a sub as I won't play when people use methods that border on cheating.

again, grow up. You are a mod. Don't tell people to shut up when you have no case.
 

Light D Lamperouge

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Well, the only role he could be is Butler if he is indeed a BD roleblocker. So I wonder why he didn't just claim if he is BD since it's obvious anyway.
I didn't know that. I checked the wiki now and I think you are right. Can anyone confirm that though? Maybe he didn't want to attract attention to himself that way. Maybe you shouldn't have said this Flowa. Or maybe he's faking it.
 

AL sama

Red Haired
How about you make me shut up? Don't use likes as sus and don't use your knowledge of Reborn's timezone as an advantage. Then we have no problem. If you continue to do so then I will ask for a sub as I won't play when people use methods that border on cheating.

again, grow up. You are a mod. Don't tell people to shut up when you have no case.
I don't care if you sub out or play

I didn't violate any rules at all

yet you keep accusing me of doing so

so yes I've the rights to tell you to shut up

doesn't matter if I m mod or not
 

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There are non bd role blockers too. I was one as the mecenary in the previous throne of lies game.
Do you think FB might be that?
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I don't care if you sub out or play

I didn't violate any rules at all

yet you keep accusing me of doing so

so yes I've the rights to tell you to shut up

doesn't matter if I m mod or not
What the hell is happening with you two now?
 
There was really no need to point out when someone leaves
did they seem sus , when they are around?
are they contributing?
any contradictions
thats more valuable in how we get reads. lets be guided.
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Do you think FB might be that?
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What the hell is happening with you two now?
last game we had two butlers but am not sure its the same this time
if al and beta are both role blockers
one of them might be a nuetral role blocker.
 

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There was really no need to point out when someone leaves
did they seem sus , when they are around?
are they contributing?
any contradictions
thats more valuable in how we get reads. lets be guided.
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last game we had two butlers but am not sure its the same this time
if al and beta are both role blockers
one of them might be a nuetral role blocker.
Iirc AL said he was there to protect Flowa. That's not what roleblockers do, right?
 
did I use that for anything whatsoever??
not specifically
but it could give greenlight to other players to continue to hassle people who leave the game .

started noticing the trend yesterday, where people had to drop their location before they left. there's no need to do that. I understand your side ofc, being accused of angle shooting , specifically when you know exactly what those rules are can be frustrating. But I also understand sera's point of view. Fujishiro pointed out the time he left yesterday and that was a greenlight for folks to sus him hakf the day phase. he's still brewing over that and your statement brought all of that back. yall just need to chill out and kill it now.
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Iirc AL said he was there to protect Flowa. That's not what roleblockers do, right?
that is
I know the role
lol
I have been one many times.
the mercenary could occupy everyone targeting that person. its a very strong piece.The sellsword does the same but is anti bd. the mercenary can swing both ways which was why I was crowned neutral town after that game.

the butler role blocks a specific player
or occupies everyone targeting them
but not what al implies he did. Fits beta more imo.
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I m not a blocker
cant see how else you would protect flowa
 
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AL sama

Red Haired
not specifically
but it could give greenlight to other players to continue to hassle people who leave the game .

started noticing the trend yesterday, where people had to drop their location before they left. there's no need to do that. I understand your side ofc, being accused of angle shooting , specifically when you know exactly what those rules are can be frustrating. But I also understand sera's point of view. Fujishiro pointed out the time he left yesterday and that was a greenlight for folks to sus him hakf the day phase. he's still brewing over that and your statement brought all of that back. yall just need to chill out and kill it now.
no it wouldn't

unless someone doesn't whats angle shooting

even then it could've been stopped

anyways enough of this nonsense
 

AL sama

Red Haired
that is
I know the role
lol
I have been one many times.
the mercenary could occupy everyone targeting that person. its a very strong piece.The sellsword does the same but is anti bd. the mercenary can swing both ways which was why I was crowned neutral town after that game.

the butler role blocks a specific player
or occupies everyone targeting them
but not what al implies he did. Fits beta more imo.
what??

I m a townie protect
 

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𝖂𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕮𝖔𝖚𝖑𝖉 𝕳𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝕭𝖊𝖊𝖓
that is
I know the role
lol
I have been one many times.
the mercenary could occupy everyone targeting that person. its a very strong piece.The sellsword does the same but is anti bd. the mercenary can swing both ways which was why I was crowned neutral town after that game.

the butler role blocks a specific player
or occupies everyone targeting them
but not what al implies he did. Fits beta more imo.
h wait
nvm looking at the wiki. he can protect without being a blocker.
what??

I m a townie protect
OK. I think we cleared it up now.


Al, any particular reason for why you basically claimed your role?
 
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