Current Events Revolutionary Army's relationship with Bartholomew "The Tyrant" Kuma

Does Kuma die in Egghead?

  • Yes

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  • No

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  • Yes, but his memories get implanted to S-Bear

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  • No, Bonney saves him

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  • No, Revs or SH Fleet intervenes

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#1
Today we will be discussing the Revolutionary Army better yet the relationship between Bortholomew Kuma and Emporio Ivankov.

From Dr. Vegapunk we get a revelation that it was Kuma, Iva and Dragon who all formed the Revolutionary Army together now it's hard to say if they were all working together under the Freedom Fighter umbrella as well that Drago had previously ran but it's safe to assume. RA formed 23 years ago - one year after the Ohara incident which would place the creation 15 years after God Valley. I won't speculate what happens between this time at least not here in the OP.

Now with the latest chapter we get to understand Kuma's story a little more from the backstory panels that I hope we continue to receive. In the latest chapter we see not only Kuma but Ivankov is also a former Slave tot he Tenryuubito and meet on God Valley alongside a new face in Jinny. I was thinking to myself that since Iva was essentially Kumas first true friend outside of his parents their bond and relationship is one of the oldest and strongest similar to ASL or Killer and Kidd and that is heartbreaking as we saw how the death of Ace impacted SL and how Killer in Wano affected Kidd. Given we have Ivankov being imprisoned for x-amount of years he didn't have any contact with the outside world and he finally comes across his bestfriend Kuma during the Paramount War now unfortunately for Iva it isn't the reunion he had expected it to be in fact he is shocked and infuriated at the fact that he has become a lapdog for the World Government whom Kuma despises. He comes across this info from Joker while not even Joker is aware that Kuma is apart of the RA, goes to show how well he has been playing the role of being a double agent.

From everything we know so far I was wondering if anyone else thought how much of a strain and heartbreak that was for Iva to not only witness in person but also having to fight him in a real brawl that took a lot from both sides. Add in the recent events of Kuma becoming a slave once again and the RA directly attacking Mariejois with the purpose of freeing Kuma directly led by Sabo and the 4 commanders. Shortly after Kumas return home to RA he has no memory and is lifeless a cog moving on its own took off to Mariejois to simply fly off again, now it's safe to assume he is on the way to Egghead as it's the most logical but how do you all believe or think Ivankov in particular will handle this as Sabos "death" was already a huge loss and issue for them how do you believe the Revs and Iva take a possible death of Kuma a Founder and Leader and Bestfriend to Revs? How would the Revs actually respond to the death of Kuma? Will this be the next catalyst to propel Dragon and the Revs from finally making their move and War against the World Government?
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#2
Today we will be discussing the Revolutionary Army better yet the relationship between Bortholomew Kuma and Emporio Ivankov.

From Dr. Vegapunk we get a revelation that it was Kuma, Iva and Dragon who all formed the Revolutionary Army together now it's hard to say if they were all working together under the Freedom Fighter umbrella as well that Drago had previously ran but it's safe to assume. RA formed 23 years ago - one year after the Ohara incident which would place the creation 15 years after God Valley. I won't speculate what happens between this time at least not here in the OP.

Now with the latest chapter we get to understand Kuma's story a little more from the backstory panels that I hope we continue to receive. In the latest chapter we see not only Kuma but Ivankov is also a former Slave tot he Tenryuubito and meet on God Valley alongside a new face in Jinny. I was thinking to myself that since Iva was essentially Kumas first true friend outside of his parents their bond and relationship is one of the oldest and strongest similar to ASL or Killer and Kidd and that is heartbreaking as we saw how the death of Ace impacted SL and how Killer in Wano affected Kidd. Given we have Ivankov being imprisoned for x-amount of years he didn't have any contact with the outside world and he finally comes across his bestfriend Kuma during the Paramount War now unfortunately for Iva it isn't the reunion he had expected it to be in fact he is shocked and infuriated at the fact that he has become a lapdog for the World Government whom Kuma despises. He comes across this info from Joker while not even Joker is aware that Kuma is apart of the RA, goes to show how well he has been playing the role of being a double agent.

From everything we know so far I was wondering if anyone else thought how much of a strain and heartbreak that was for Iva to not only witness in person but also having to fight him in a real brawl that took a lot from both sides. Add in the recent events of Kuma becoming a slave once again and the RA directly attacking Mariejois with the purpose of freeing Kuma directly led by Sabo and the 4 commanders. Shortly after Kumas return home to RA he has no memory and is lifeless a cog moving on its own took off to Mariejois to simply fly off again, now it's safe to assume he is on the way to Egghead as it's the most logical but how do you all believe or think Ivankov in particular will handle this as Sabos "death" was already a huge loss and issue for them how do you believe the Revs and Iva take a possible death of Kuma a Founder and Leader and Bestfriend to Revs? How would the Revs actually respond to the death of Kuma? Will this be the next catalyst to propel Dragon and the Revs from finally making their move and War against the World Government?
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I hope he does not.I think we could use some more panels of Kuma later on.
 
#11
Your poll raises an interesting question. S-Snake didn't have Boa's memories implanted inside her. She still liked Luffy and listened his command.

Based on this alone S-Bear might try to save Bonney. So it might be Kuma + S-Bear vs Saturn for now.
The Seraphim might have gotten free with all the damage. But since they seemingly have a level of free will they might avoid going near the fight to maintain their level of freedom and act outside commands.

We've seen hints here and there they like to act autonomously and make their own decisions.

S-Bear might definitely intervene too. Glad you opened this debate.
 

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呪のろいの王
#12
Just lol if bonney gets conqueror haki too.
who says she has to get Haoshoku?

did Law get this, no he didnt..
Your poll raises an interesting question. S-Snake didn't have Boa's memories implanted inside her. She still liked Luffy and listened his command.

Based on this alone S-Bear might try to save Bonney. So it might be Kuma + S-Bear vs Saturn for now.
The Seraphim might have gotten free with all the damage. But since they seemingly have a level of free will they might avoid going near the fight to maintain their level of freedom and act outside commands.

We've seen hints here and there they like to act autonomously and make their own decisions.

S-Bear might definitely intervene too. Glad you opened this debate.
ahhh i didn't think of this but it actually sounds plausible and logical.
 
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