Versus Battle Right Hand Men rumble

#41
The three fighters we are discussing. Lmfao
If you honestly believe Bananji is there then I don’t know what to say to you lol. I’ll just put it down as another one of your bizarre takes.

I rate him more than most btw.
Prime Gyou’Un was literally referred to as the martial might of Zhao, and Yoko was also referred to as the strongest warrior in Han (something never once said about Gaimou in Wei)
Prime Gyouun was the martial symbol of Zhao because he was the main man of a Great Heaven army. This isn’t to say he was the number 1 of a state. It’s incredible hype of course - his talent and weight are great - but it’s another case of you taking things the wrong way.

Why not put on clown makeup and juggle bowling pins on a unicycle why you’re at it? I’m not going to dignify Hara’s drunken stat system with any entertainment. If 90 Shouheikun can neg 90 Wategi, 97 Man’U would mid diff 97s Renpa and Gaimou.
I’d rather just follow the manga and the author lol, especially when this stat matches the portrayal and hype of the man in question. The fact that you seemingly ignore virtually every stat and have a polar opposite view, is probably more of an indication of how unique your takes are lol. Nothing wrong in disagreeing with certain things, but everything? And when you have a guy that was positioned and portrayed like Gaimou, who was also given the joint 5th highest ever number, you should respect it.


And we’ve reached the inevitable moment of Gaimou fans coping and seething over Gaimou’s disappointing performance against Shin.

Gaimou was absolutely not playing with Shin, he was screaming at the top of his lungs and was having an exhilarating battle on both separate occasions where he failed to defeat Shin lol. And to be clear I’m not even downplaying Gaimou for this because Shin has always been strong as hell, but you’re out of your mind if you think Gaimou has some imaginary experience stats or whatever that would put him above Yoko or Gyou’Un when that didn’t manifest at all in his fights with Shin.
I think you should go and reread. Gaimou was having fun with Shin lol. Shin pushed him of course, because he’s fucking Shin lol.


I have acknowledged the only hype he gets in the manga. Literally his only hype was as a mighty warrior who killed many enemies of Wei. That’s it. Absolutely no other hype has been placed on him as a warrior, the rest of his hype is simply as a member of the Wei Fire Dragons.
And the fact that he’s the strongest in a state, covering a golden generation and probably the current generation. His pure martial skill was compared in verse with Renpa - which Hara followed through with by giving the same 97. The fact that he’s set up to fight future Shin, the fact that he’s got the joint 5th highest stat. The fact that Gaimou has his position and prestige, almost entirely on the back of his physical output.

Believing Gaimou has no martial hype is one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard. You just don’t like any of the many examples and totally disregard them, because it counters your imagination that he’s not above Bananji. Strange.


Okay first of all, saying the Xiongnu and Baiyue are equivalent tribes is so horribly wrong I don’t even know where to begin.

The Xiongnu represented an existential threat to all of China post Zhao falling, the Baiyue tribes were extinguished by Moubu in an afternoon. They literally had to build the Great Wall of China to stop the Xiongnu.
Why are you going by history here when in verse the comparison was made? If you want to go by history then Qin will steamroll the rest of China and Chu are nowhere near as powerful, man for man.

Rinbukun’s hype made a direct comparison to Bananji’s hype. Rinbukun was actually prestigious enough to be in a CW, respected by Kanmei and be trusted by SSK who is equal to a king. With a 93vs94 stat difference also being there, you’d have to be an idiot to flat out refuse to ignore the comparison, regardless if one tribe was stronger in history.

Secondly there’s an elephant in the room you are completely ignoring. I usually don’t like to play this card but since you’ve taken everything else out of context, it’s time to once again silence delusional Gaimou fans:


Now go ahead and explain to me why Laimou pushes Ouki any harder than Rinbukun pushed Tou when this page exists. Since you think Tou would treat Bananji like he treated Rinbukun, apparently. This shit should be good
I hope you’re not sitting there thinking this is a gotcha moment? Lol.

Ouki is a snob. Gaimou’s philosophy doesn’t interest him, rather than it being because Gaimou is too weak.

I don’t know if you just overrate Bananji or underestimate Gaimou, but it’s puzzling.

I hope that you have now finally grasped and understood the difference between ‘strength of arm’ and combat ability btw? I ask because I’ve seen you corrected numerous times on here but you still insist on repeating it to try and help your arguments lol
 
#43
You put Rokuomi above Kansaro overall even if you put Kansaro quite above in brain. above in leadership too and not so far below in brawn ?
The value of intellect varies more in RHM depending on whom they serve.

ROM has the experience and proven dependability in his role.

Experience
  1. Gyou'un
  2. Kai Shi Bou
  3. Roku O Mi
  4. Ba Nan Ji
  5. Ba Jio
  6. A Kou
  7. Kan Saro
  8. Yoko Yoko
  9. Rai Do
I can't put Kan Saro ahead of him just yet.
 
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