Speculations Rocks used hostages against the Admiral

#61
Sure, your "explanation" is Luffy having a serious fight and randomly forgetting the highest level of offensive haki he had just acquired :milaugh:.

All while saying he had no idea how to damage them no less. Super logical.
Highest level of haki is reserved for the strongest opponents, not for characters like the Gorosei or Pizzaru, Oda knows this and limited him in Egghead.
Why does it burn that much Gaban saying even a skuplitter needs to be mindful about how he uses the CoC lol?
Because Luffy needs to consciously use it against them, now that he knows they're weak to it and isn't restricted by PIS like in Egghead, he will do it, which is why Luffy hasn't undergone any training from Gaban to learn this fanfic "next level application".
So again:

Luffy did use it in serious fights --> he could

Admirals didn't in non serious --> they couldn't

Perfect lol.
So again:

Gaban confirms ACoC is the counter to their immortality and Luffy received no training from Gaban. Admirals having CoC is confirmed literally nowhere and they've had ample opportunities to show it and still nothing, this isn't the "gotcha" moment you seem to think it is.

I don't mind repeating this back and forth, but know that you won't achieve anything.
 
#62
It's possible, since it was specifically mentioned that he took five hostages. Plus he is BB's dad after all.

That said, his feat of slaying an Admiral is obviously meant to hype him up, so it likely wasn't just the Admiral being nerfed that lead to his death.

Need more context overall. Should be very interesting to see how Oda handles this incident and its repercussions going forward.
 
#63
Highest level of haki is reserved for the strongest opponents, not for characters like the Gorosei or Pizzaru, Oda knows this and limited him in Egghead.

Because Luffy needs to consciously use it against them, now that he knows they're weak to it and isn't restricted by PIS like in Egghead, he will do it, which is why Luffy hasn't undergone any training from Gaban to learn this fanfic "next level application".

So again:

Gaban confirms ACoC is the counter to their immortality and Luffy received no training from Gaban. Admirals having CoC is confirmed literally nowhere and they've had ample opportunities to show it and still nothing, this isn't the "gotcha" moment you seem to think it is.

I don't mind repeating this back and forth, but know that you won't achieve anything.
So again, to summarize:

- Luffy randomly forgetten to use his strongest haki becuase reasons, even though he was expliclty trying to damage the Gorosei and could not;

- Gaban saying to be mindful at "how" has no beating, useless blabbing;

- again Luffy don't using It in serious fights, he has it; Admirals don't in non serious and they don't lol.

I don't mind repeating this back and forth, but know that you won't achieve anything
Me neither.

Every time It exposes your double standard more.

It's not like you are wriggling out of this and so everyone can see.
 
#64
So again, to summarize:

- Luffy randomly forgetten to use his strongest haki becuase reasons, even though he was expliclty trying to damage the Gorosei and could not;

- Gaban saying to be mindful at "how" has no beating, useless blabbing;

- again Luffy don't using It in serious fights, he has it; Admirals don't in non serious and they don't lol.
He didn't "forget", he's a character, not a real person, the answer is that the author just didn't want him to use it, and this is reflected in the fact that we never see ACoC used on panel against them.

Gaban was telling Luffy that ACoC is their weakness, this isn't "blabbing", this is highly important information.

You're comparing two different things

Luffy is confirmed to have CoC and ACoC = factual

Gaban reveals that ACoC is their weakness = factual

There is no need to prove Luffy is capable of it because the manga has already revealed that he is via those two aforementioned facts.

Whereas absolutely nothing even remotely confirms the Admirals having CoC, even after several serious fights, there still isn't the slightest hint, unlike the Gorosei for example who had it confirmed immediately upon their first combat showings.
Me neither.

Every time It exposes your double standard more.
There is no hypocrisy, you just don't like the fact that Luffy can do it and Admirals can't, which isn't my problem, the Admirals are the Gorosei's slaves for a reason, they lack the power to rebel.
 
#67
Once again I have no idea tf you are talking about.
Did I deny him having hostages? I just said that he didn't kill them because THAT would be even bigger event than Admiral dying.
Look how Sabo became more famous than Dragon because of killing Cobra.

Well, dear asylum patient:
-one event literally has 5 hostages mentioned
-the other event has no hostages mentioned

There you go. Try to wrap your little brain around that.
Yeah , 5 hostages mentioned.. Against an entirely different opponent.
 
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