Powers & Abilities Roger fought Whitebeard with no DF. Wait he and Garp fought Roger without DF's

#3
Wait, WB didn't have the WSM title when ROGER was alive, but WB was WSM when GARP PRIME was alive and Roger dead.
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Are you sure GARP is equal to WB?:wellwell::wellwell:
I think in one of databooks stated WB peak started at age of 38 and WB was around that age (37-36) in God valley so.... there shouldnt be much different for WB unless he didnt had his fruit. Like Kaido.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#4
I think in one of databooks stated WB peak started at age of 38 and WB was around that age (37-36) in God valley so.... there shouldnt be much different for WB unless he didnt had his fruit. Like Kaido.
Their heyday was at age 34~38.
Even more is uncertain the WB being the WSM when ROGER was alive, the issue is that WB was WSM while GARP was at peak power and Roger dead.

As WB and Roger were labeled as equals, neither of them received the title of WSM, that makes sense, but GARP was equal to Roger right?
But after Roger's death WB became the WSM what happened to GARP? LOL
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#7
Garp never fought prime Roger. He didn't have CoC. He wasn't on their level.
This right here in the circled box is saying that GARP is less (<) than WB, but WB was equal to ROGER according to the sources. WB = ROGER > GARP, since WB > GARP. Or the WB title is useless. Laughs.
 
#11
I think in one of databooks stated WB peak started at age of 38 and WB was around that age (37-36) in God valley so.... there shouldnt be much different for WB unless he didnt had his fruit. Like Kaido.
All the more reason to think something happened in God Valley that forced the crew to sit it out while Roger and Garp tagged teamed Xebec. Maybe it boiled down to an ideological battle of D clan that the rest of the crews couldn't interfere with.
Doesn't make sense for Big Mom, Shiki, WB and Xebec all near their prime to lose to Garp Ruger and Rayleigh. Even if we count Gaban, Xebec also had other notable members like Kaido, Cpt John etc.
 
#15
All the more reason to think something happened in God Valley that forced the crew to sit it out while Roger and Garp tagged teamed Xebec. Maybe it boiled down to an ideological battle of D clan that the rest of the crews couldn't interfere with.
Doesn't make sense for Big Mom, Shiki, WB and Xebec all near their prime to lose to Garp Ruger and Rayleigh. Even if we count Gaban, Xebec also had other notable members like Kaido, Cpt John etc.
What it meams is Whitebeard grew a lot and fast after god valley.

It makes sense when you look at how fast Koby, helmepo, Tahsigi, Smoker, Luffy, zoro, Sanji, Kid, Law grew in 2 years.

And This was PEAK HEALTHY PRIME ROGER just fresh off conquering the grandline.

Garp was also in his Prime aka PK level.

So it was 2 PK level people vs Yonko and people weaker than Yonko's.
 
#17
All the more reason to think something happened in God Valley that forced the crew to sit it out while Roger and Garp tagged teamed Xebec. Maybe it boiled down to an ideological battle of D clan that the rest of the crews couldn't interfere with.
Doesn't make sense for Big Mom, Shiki, WB and Xebec all near their prime to lose to Garp Ruger and Rayleigh. Even if we count Gaban, Xebec also had other notable members like Kaido, Cpt John etc.
strong doesnt mean strong enough. theres a reason Big mom said Garps grandson when she heard about luffy on WCI. alot of the Yonkou thought of bim as Garps grandson not to hype him up but because of the truma we now understand. I think its apperent that the Yonkou remember watxhing as Garp defeated their captaij and dismembered their crew which jas to leave some type of truama.I mean shiki and captain jon was there and wb and big mom probably had their dfs. they were probably powerless to stop them and they didnt particularily like xebeck bit followed him because he was strong. roger and whitebeard were equals but Roger said Garp almost killed him many times. all we need is evidence that Garp fwced Roger in the later years and seeing as when he defeated the marines he called for Sengoku or Garp by name seems likely. last time we saw Garp heading out to fight Roger he was going off against Shiki meaning it was post xebeck dying. WB threathening to throw shiki into the ocesn means they were likely equals or close to equals when they sailed together. i think in the end more so than the beggining pirates get the advantage over marines because their more free to do battle without strategy and planning. though atleast a chunk of time where Garp was shitting on just about everybody. i mean if he beat xebeck and almost killed roger its sage ro assume that WB reached his level rather than the other way around.

its possibke roger and Whitebeard surpassed Garps level but theres no evidence other thsn the wsm title
 
#18
Wait, WB didn't have the WSM title when ROGER was alive, but WB was WSM when GARP PRIME was alive and Roger dead.
laughs.

Are you sure GARP is equal to WB?:wellwell::wellwell:
I think in one of databooks stated WB peak started at age of 38 and WB was around that age (37-36) in God valley so.... there shouldnt be much different for WB unless he didnt had his fruit. Like Kaido.
Their heyday was at age 34~38.
Even more is uncertain the WB being the WSM when ROGER was alive, the issue is that WB was WSM while GARP was at peak power and Roger dead.

As WB and Roger were labeled as equals, neither of them received the title of WSM, that makes sense, but GARP was equal to Roger right?
But after Roger's death WB became the WSM what happened to GARP? LOL
This right here in the circled box is saying that GARP is less (<) than WB, but WB was equal to ROGER according to the sources. WB = ROGER > GARP, since WB > GARP. Or the WB title is useless. Laughs.

Whitebeard obtained the title of WSM well before Roger's death. Or we all agree that datebooks are trash!?
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#20
Roger Whitebeard and Garp all stood close to each other most likely

This is what story reached us

The only debatable question is about sick Roger
 
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