[FNZ] Role Madness Round 14: Code Geass - The Mafia Rebellion

[Ali]

vote lynch natalija

 

[Cinera]

The host also stated "no more miracles" implying it was a one shot ability, very Mafia like

Nah, Dragomir's character (Kyoshiro Todoh) was known as "Todoh of Miracle". Hence "No More Miracles" at his death. It had nothing to do with the ability that prevented Marimo's Lynch.

 

[Yuelyn]

Filler

 

[Cinera]

To sum it up, I think Cin, Marimo, and Mel are the least trustworthy at the moment (although I’ll allow that I’m less convinced on the last one after how she’s reacted to heavy sussing), but I’m trusting LC and voting for Nat, who I’ve also found hard to pin down as town since the day began.

What happened to your very strong suspicions on Finalbeta?




I'm referring to these posts of yours:

VOTE LYNCH FINAL @Flower @krogothwolf

Unless someone has incontrovertible proof he’s town, or he actually does something useful, I want him gone today. Even if I change my vote throughout the phase, it’s likely to end right back on him. I don’t know how, Final, but you’re definitely responsible for this. On the slim chance you’re actually town, you actively misdirected a lynch and knowingly tunneled a confirmed townie all day. I’m not interested in seeing any of your bullshit memes or whatever absolute gibberish you feel like saying; YOU cost us Drago, and he’s always a much bigger help to town than you. It’s only by the grace of several scummy looking players that you avoided getting lynched D1...if I have my way, you won’t make it past D2.

I think we can wait on Cin; FB needs to get gone, and Marimo does too. Either of them gets my support today.

Well, you were right, and I’m willing to believe you on this. I know you were jumped for saying one thing, so I understand backing off under that much opposition. Between Marimo and Final, which one do you think should be handled today?

Final’s not town, whatever he is. If y’all need me to vote Marimo to break a tie later on, I’m happy to change my vote, but Final gets it until further notice.

I think you’re all wrong about Final, but I guess there’s nowhere to go with him at the moment...

@Finalbeta goes from being your strongest suspect (you suspect him much more strongly than even @Marimo_420 and were hellbent on Lynching him) to not even making your top 3?!?! You were so insistent on lynching Final, but now he's no longer an interest for you?!?! The abrupt switch on Final is absurd and outright inconsistent. This is not Town behaviour.


Here's how I see it. You were opportunistic on Final and thought you could get him Mislynched through his bad play and tunnelling on Drago the previous day. However when you saw we weren't biting, you quietly dropped your suspicions on him and moved to other players (myself (an admitted independent) and Mel who some were suspecting). However, this is not pro Town behaviour. A Town player would not abandon suspicions on a player they thought was Scum just because others refused to Lynch said player.


I'm locking @Jew D. Boy as Scum.


If Nat flips Scum and our Vig kills Marimo tonight, then Jew is my top Lynch for tomorrow.


@LANJI CUCKSMOKE, @Noctis, @Light D Lamperouge, @Natalija, @Melontonin, @NeutralWatcher, @Tris, @Tobi, @Rhea, @Seth, @Seraphoenix, @silverfire, @Marimo_420.

 

[Finalbeta]

@Cinera

I hadn't noticed that, I wonder how Jew could be so sure I was the one redirecting the lynch

It's crystal clear how Marimo simply saved himself

And if I was Mafia or Indie why would my ability have been a one shot? Since host specifically stated "no more miracles"

What's the point of redirecting just one lynch if you are not Town and for what exactly?

If I knew Drago was Town it would have been a shitty move

Jew is definitely going down after Marimo

 

[Cinera]

And if I was Mafia or Indie why would my ability have been a one shot? Since host specifically stated "no more miracles"

I answered this already:

Nah, Dragomir's character (Kyoshiro Todoh) was known as "Todoh of Miracles". Hence "No More Miracles" at his death. It had nothing to do with the ability that prevented Marimo's Lynch.

The "No More Miracles" was because of Drago's character and had nothing to do with Marimo's Lynch redirect.

 

[RedGloverKing]

what does imdie mean? Iḿ ISOing someone and I come across this word a lpt, can someone plz tell me.

 

[Cinera]

what does imdie mean? Iḿ ISOing someone and I come across this word a lpt, can someone plz tell me.

They don't belong to any faction.

 

[Finalbeta]

what does imdie mean? Iḿ ISOing someone and I come across this word a lpt, can someone plz tell me.

Independent players; which means they don't belong to a faction but play to their own wincon or at best are affiliated to one faction and follow its wincon

 

[RedGloverKing]

@Cinera thx

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Independent players; which means they don't belong to a faction but play to their own wincon or at best are affiliated to one faction and follow its wincon

thank you

 

[wordyworm]

Either Marimo or Nat is fine with me.

Lanji, you better have something real. How can you be sure that the lynch will succeed since our last one was a cluster? I get that a redirect ability might be a one shot, but who knows what fuckery is afoot in this game? This could go wrong again.

Still sus FB and Melon too. Cin seems like a genuine indie. Tris is scheming something but I'm not sure if it's scummy. The case against Jew is interesting, but I feel like that was just thrown out there to test the reactions.

Still voting Nat for now, but that's all based on Lanji's gamble.

Is there a chance that he is immune to lynching and is throwing her under the bus? These are my 4 am thoughts.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Either Marimo or Nat is fine with me.

Lanji, you better have something real. How can you be sure that the lynch will succeed since our last one was a cluster? I get that a redirect ability might be a one shot, but who knows what fuckery is afoot in this game? This could go wrong again.

Still sus FB and Melon too. Cin seems like a genuine indie. Tris is scheming something but I'm not sure if it's scummy. The case against Jew is interesting, but I feel like that was just thrown out there to test the reactions.

Still voting Nat for now, but that's all based on Lanji's gamble.

Is there a chance that he is immune to lynching and is throwing her under the bus? These are my 4 am thoughts.

someone else redirecting the lynch is out of my control
and that could go for anyone we try and lynch today
if we lynch nat however
we get scum.

 

[Cinera]

Is there a chance that he is immune to lynching and is throwing her under the bus? These are my 4 am thoughts.

We already have @Marimo420 avoid a Lynch. If someone is immune to Lynching it would be him. I doubt there would be two Scum abilities to avoid Lynches, that seems too stacked against Town (especially considering the # of kills we saw last night).


What do you think about @Jew D. Boy?

I'm restating my case against him below:

To sum it up, I think Cin, Marimo, and Mel are the least trustworthy at the moment (although I’ll allow that I’m less convinced on the last one after how she’s reacted to heavy sussing), but I’m trusting LC and voting for Nat, who I’ve also found hard to pin down as town since the day began.

What happened to your very strong suspicions on Finalbeta?




I'm referring to these posts of yours:

VOTE LYNCH FINAL @Flower @krogothwolf

Unless someone has incontrovertible proof he’s town, or he actually does something useful, I want him gone today. Even if I change my vote throughout the phase, it’s likely to end right back on him. I don’t know how, Final, but you’re definitely responsible for this. On the slim chance you’re actually town, you actively misdirected a lynch and knowingly tunneled a confirmed townie all day. I’m not interested in seeing any of your bullshit memes or whatever absolute gibberish you feel like saying; YOU cost us Drago, and he’s always a much bigger help to town than you. It’s only by the grace of several scummy looking players that you avoided getting lynched D1...if I have my way, you won’t make it past D2.

I think we can wait on Cin; FB needs to get gone, and Marimo does too. Either of them gets my support today.

Well, you were right, and I’m willing to believe you on this. I know you were jumped for saying one thing, so I understand backing off under that much opposition. Between Marimo and Final, which one do you think should be handled today?

Final’s not town, whatever he is. If y’all need me to vote Marimo to break a tie later on, I’m happy to change my vote, but Final gets it until further notice.

I think you’re all wrong about Final, but I guess there’s nowhere to go with him at the moment...

@Finalbeta goes from being your strongest suspect (you suspect him much more strongly than even @Marimo_420 and were hellbent on Lynching him) to not even making your top 3?!?! You were so insistent on lynching Final, but now he's no longer an interest for you?!?! The abrupt switch on Final is absurd and outright inconsistent. This is not Town behaviour.


Here's how I see it. You were opportunistic on Final and thought you could get him Mislynched through his bad play and tunnelling on Drago the previous day. However when you saw we weren't biting, you quietly dropped your suspicions on him and moved to other players (myself (an admitted independent) and Mel who some were suspecting). However, this is not pro Town behaviour. A Town player would not abandon suspicions on a player they thought was Scum just because others refused to Lynch said player.


I'm locking @Jew D. Boy as Scum.


If Nat flips Scum and our Vig kills Marimo tonight, then Jew is my top Lynch for tomorrow.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

We already have @Marimo420 avoid a Lynch. If someone is immune to Lynching it would be him. I doubt there would be two Scum abilities to avoid Lynches, that seems too stacked against Town (especially considering the # of kills we saw last night).


What do you think about @Jew D. Boy?

I'm restating my case against him below:



What happened to your very strong suspicions on Finalbeta?




I'm referring to these posts of yours:











@Finalbeta goes from being your strongest suspect (you suspect him much more strongly than even @Marimo_420 and were hellbent on Lynching him) to not even making your top 3?!?! You were so insistent on lynching Final, but now he's no longer an interest for you?!?! The abrupt switch on Final is absurd and outright inconsistent. This is not Town behaviour.


Here's how I see it. You were opportunistic on Final and thought you could get him Mislynched through his bad play and tunnelling on Drago the previous day. However when you saw we weren't biting, you quietly dropped your suspicions on him and moved to other players (myself (an admitted independent) and Mel who some were suspecting). However, this is not pro Town behaviour. A Town player would not abandon suspicions on a player they thought was Scum just because others refused to Lynch said player.


I'm locking @Jew D. Boy as Scum.


If Nat flips Scum and our Vig kills Marimo tonight, then Jew is my top Lynch for tomorrow.

why jdb?

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We already have @Marimo420 avoid a Lynch. If someone is immune to Lynching it would be him. I doubt there would be two Scum abilities to avoid Lynches, that seems too stacked against Town (especially considering the # of kills we saw last night).


What do you think about @Jew D. Boy?

I'm restating my case against him below:



What happened to your very strong suspicions on Finalbeta?




I'm referring to these posts of yours:











@Finalbeta goes from being your strongest suspect (you suspect him much more strongly than even @Marimo_420 and were hellbent on Lynching him) to not even making your top 3?!?! You were so insistent on lynching Final, but now he's no longer an interest for you?!?! The abrupt switch on Final is absurd and outright inconsistent. This is not Town behaviour.


Here's how I see it. You were opportunistic on Final and thought you could get him Mislynched through his bad play and tunnelling on Drago the previous day. However when you saw we weren't biting, you quietly dropped your suspicions on him and moved to other players (myself (an admitted independent) and Mel who some were suspecting). However, this is not pro Town behaviour. A Town player would not abandon suspicions on a player they thought was Scum just because others refused to Lynch said player.


I'm locking @Jew D. Boy as Scum.


If Nat flips Scum and our Vig kills Marimo tonight, then Jew is my top Lynch for tomorrow.

when he says we are all wrong
I think its cause most folks think he's town
however jdb doesnt. he drops it to lynch natalija this dp.

 

[wordyworm]

What do you think about @Jew D. Boy?

He's really hard to read bc he's always on the offensive. I'm interested to see how he responds to you bc I still sus FB too.

 

[Cinera]

why jdb?

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when he says we are all wrong
I think its cause most folks think he's town
however jdb doesnt. he drops it to lynch natalija this dp.

Jew D. Boy goes from having FB as his top Scum suspect and being hell bent on Lynching him:

VOTE LYNCH FINAL @Flower @krogothwolf

Unless someone has incontrovertible proof he’s town, or he actually does something useful, I want him gone today. Even if I change my vote throughout the phase, it’s likely to end right back on him. I don’t know how, Final, but you’re definitely responsible for this. On the slim chance you’re actually town, you actively misdirected a lynch and knowingly tunneled a confirmed townie all day. I’m not interested in seeing any of your bullshit memes or whatever absolute gibberish you feel like saying; YOU cost us Drago, and he’s always a much bigger help to town than you. It’s only by the grace of several scummy looking players that you avoided getting lynched D1...if I have my way, you won’t make it past D2.

I think we can wait on Cin; FB needs to get gone, and Marimo does too. Either of them gets my support today.

Well, you were right, and I’m willing to believe you on this. I know you were jumped for saying one thing, so I understand backing off under that much opposition. Between Marimo and Final, which one do you think should be handled today?

Final’s not town, whatever he is. If y’all need me to vote Marimo to break a tie later on, I’m happy to change my vote, but Final gets it until further notice.

I think you’re all wrong about Final, but I guess there’s nowhere to go with him at the moment...

To FB not even making top 3 suspicious players for him:

To sum it up, I think Cin, Marimo, and Mel are the least trustworthy at the moment (although I’ll allow that I’m less convinced on the last one after how she’s reacted to heavy sussing), but I’m trusting LC and voting for Nat, who I’ve also found hard to pin down as town since the day began.

I think this is suspicious because:

@Finalbeta goes from being your strongest suspect (you suspect him much more strongly than even @Marimo_420 and were hellbent on Lynching him) to not even making your top 3?!?! You were so insistent on lynching Final, but now he's no longer an interest for you?!?! The abrupt switch on Final is absurd and outright inconsistent. This is not Town behaviour.


Here's how I see it. You were opportunistic on Final and thought you could get him Mislynched through his bad play and tunnelling on Drago the previous day. However when you saw we weren't biting, you quietly dropped your suspicions on him and moved to other players (myself (an admitted independent) and Mel who some were suspecting). However, this is not pro Town behaviour. A Town player would not abandon suspicions on a player they thought was Scum just because others refused to Lynch said player.

Rereading Day 1 doesn't endear @Jew D. Boy to me any. He seemed to be floating the possibility of a Beta Mislynch from the very beginning. As if he had marked Beta as his Mislynch candidate from the game start, and once he thought he had a passable case he went all in on Beta. However, when he saw that we were not biting he completely abandoned his Beta case and now Beta is no longer a top 3 suspicious player for him?

His opportunism on Beta and the alacrity with which he dropped his Beta case is extremely Scummy IMO.

As I said:

I'm locking @Jew D. Boy as Scum.

@Lamperouge what do you think about Jew?

 

[Natalija]

This is what I believe from now :
1. Vote Cin First Because he stands out the most with his essays. And Scum take it as a decoy and put him as a target.
2. Other Scum Will Try to vote with the below Cin was, in this case Marimo
3. Vote Locked with the Cin leading, follow with Marimo Drago and Tris
4. Cin votes is not 3
5. Drago votes is not 2
6. Time stop is real

This is what I doubt and still need help looking further :
One and Two specific person that lead to Marimo vote and also define about Marimo this... Marimo that... after Time Stop is... Scum or even worse is Scum Leader.

Why do they believe that? What role can avoid lynches multiple times? It was an ability, as Dragomir was third in votes iirc. So it was a redirect of the lynch. Doubtful that that ability would be anything but a oneshot. It would be unbalanced otherwise.

What if the plan to get him killed at night just results in a redirect? It's far safer to lynch him as the lynch redirect is likely a oneshot. Whereas mafia likely still has the ability to nullify a kill by either redirecting or making someone bulletproof imo.

Voices of reason That is exactly right on the votes and avoiding lynches. And scum are having a ball with jumping on my wagon, that’s how pinning someone down is done. Marimo, Melon and Light are scum.

@Cinera I know and saw your point on JDB. Definitely look into him, it’s indie vibes from this.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

Voices of reason That is exactly right on the votes and avoiding lynches. And scum are having a ball with jumping on my wagon, that’s how pinning someone down is done. Marimo, Melon and Light are scum.

@Cinera I know and saw your point on JDB. Definitely look into him, it’s indie vibes from this.

What's your thought on Lanji who was adamant to lynch not based on reads?

 

[Natalija]

What's your thought on Lanji who was adamant to lynch not based on reads?

I think he’s town. He’s always town when he tunnels so much.

Based on not reads, well. Since we can’t talk about it I can’t say much other than a lot of things happen during the night

Have your suspects changed?

 

[Finalbeta]

Voices of reason That is exactly right on the votes and avoiding lynches. And scum are having a ball with jumping on my wagon, that’s how pinning someone down is done. Marimo, Melon and Light are scum.

@Cinera I know and saw your point on JDB. Definitely look into him, it’s indie vibes from this.

The time has come to fruition

The time for us to share the same wavelength

Not a billion years this would have been conceivable and yet for the first time in my existence I believe you are not Mafia, not sure about anti-town yet

In my opinion the odds for LANJI to find a legit result are mathematically appalling in an heavy bastard game