Future Events S-hawk will make Saturn retreat

[Sugoi]

I think this panel might be a lot more important than people think.

Zoro is saying that s-hawk has some humanity. Just a chapter ago we got information about the authority hierarchy for controlling the seraphim's, listing the gorosei at the top. We see one of the punks override lucci's orders, and then a gorosei shows up. So I think it's safe to assume that Saturn has come here to override vegapunks authority and control the seraphim

But what if something causes s-hawks "humanity side" to take over and disobey orders? And what if s-hawks rebellion affects the other seraphims as well?

Saturn would realise there's no point of him being there anymore, and will want to leave. And if Saturn wants to leave that means kizaru and the rest of the marines will also have to leave since Saturn is a gorosei and his decisions take priority.

I still think the seraphim will fight the strawhats and that zoro will fight s-hawk, but maybe nami will start feeling sorry for them because they are kids and will tell the strawhats to stop hurting them. After that, s-hawk will disobey his orders and stop wanting to fight straw hats as well

 

[Momonosuke]

I think the spark of humanity zoro was talking about has to do with the fear in the eyes of s-hawk. I'm not expecting to see the Seraphim disregard orders from the gorousei and I'm definitely not expecting to see Nami feel bad for robot children who are attacking the crew.

If s-hawk were to disobey an order because of his humanity I think it would be because the mihawk part of him wants to keep fighting zoro even though he was ordered to do something else.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Zoro said something about one seraphim looking like someone (probably Mihawk) but once he got a better look he says that the Seraphim has more humanity than Mihawk?
VIZ is going to say something completely different.

 

[Date]

Zoro is just hyping Mihawk

 

[Sugoi]

Zoro said something about one seraphim looking like someone (probably Mihawk) but once he got a better look he says that the Seraphim has more humanity than Mihawk?
VIZ is going to say something completely different.

Hes not referring to Mihawk. When he says "you're not the same, you have a spark of humanity", hes saying that s-hawk isnt the same as the other seraphims because he has some humanity while the others don't.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Zoro was comparing S-Hawk to Mihawk in the context imo. Saying you have a spark of humanity emphasizes that Mihawk is more monstrous than S-Hawk, whether it's strength or training hardships or something else....

 

[Sugoi]

Zoro was comparing S-Hawk to Mihawk in the context imo. Saying you have a spark of humanity emphasizes that Mihawk is more monstrous than S-Hawk, whether it's strength or training hardships or something else....

How does that make any sense though? You think Zoro is just saying that S-hawk isnt the same as Mihawk? i mean obviously the kid isn't literally Mihawk. And why would he say "you actually have a spark of humanity still" as if mihawk doesnt have any humanity

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

How does that make any sense though? You think Zoro is just saying that S-hawk isnt the same as Mihawk? i mean obviously the kid isn't literally Mihawk. And why would he say "you actually have a spark of humanity still" as if mihawk doesnt have any humanity

I think Zoro meant that Mihawk is way above of that human in strength. Or that Zoro went through Mihawk's rigorous training that he considered Mihawk a "Monster."

 

[HA001]

It's cause he's sweating. It's a human reaction
A pacifista for example wouldn't do that

 

[Sugoi]

I think Zoro meant that Mihawk is way above of that human in strength. Or that Zoro went through Mihawk's rigorous training that he considered Mihawk a "Monster."

oh so you're saying that zoro doesn't consider mihawk to have any humanity because he thinks mihawk is a monster. But that still doesnt make sense to me though. Unlike the readers, zoro doesnt have any context about what the seraphims are and he wouldn't know what mihawk looked like as a kid. So why would he assume that hes "the same as mihawk" like that, especially when in the next panel he says "what the hell are you" so he clearly has no idea. He just knows that he looks familiar
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It's cause he's sweating. It's a human reaction
A pacifista for example wouldn't do that

Thats not what my post i about. Yes i know its him sweating that makes zoro think that he has humanity. Im talking about how him having humanity can lead to some development

 

[Patryipe]

I think this panel might be a lot more important than people think.

Zoro is saying that s-hawk has some humanity. Just a chapter ago we got information about the authority hierarchy for controlling the seraphim's, listing the gorosei at the top. We see one of the punks override lucci's orders, and then a gorosei shows up. So I think it's safe to assume that Saturn has come here to override vegapunks authority and control the seraphim

But what if something causes s-hawks "humanity side" to take over and disobey orders? And what if s-hawks rebellion affects the other seraphims as well?

Saturn would realise there's no point of him being there anymore, and will want to leave. And if Saturn wants to leave that means kizaru and the rest of the marines will also have to leave since Saturn is a gorosei and his decisions take priority.

I still think the seraphim will fight the strawhats and that zoro will fight s-hawk, but maybe nami will start feeling sorry for them because they are kids and will tell the strawhats to stop hurting them. After that, s-hawk will disobey his orders and stop wanting to fight straw hats as well

Way too soon. They just got introduced and you want them to rebel already?

 

[Levi]

If bb one arm midchick he's getting started diff by old man cane

 

[Sugoi]

I think Zoro meant that Mihawk is way above of that human in strength. Or that Zoro went through Mihawk's rigorous training that he considered Mihawk a "Monster."

You were right, forget everything i said

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

oh so you're saying that zoro doesn't consider mihawk to have any humanity because he thinks mihawk is a monster. But that still doesnt make sense to me though. Unlike the readers, zoro doesnt have any context about what the seraphims are and he wouldn't know what mihawk looked like as a kid. So why would he assume that hes "the same as mihawk" like that, especially when in the next panel he says "what the hell are you" so he clearly has no idea. He just knows that he looks familiar
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Thats not what my post i about. Yes i know its him sweating that makes zoro think that he has humanity. Im talking about how him having humanity can lead to some development

You were right, forget everything i said

No worries. The discussion was great.:cheers: