Questions & Mysteries Sanji and Page one did they beat each other ?

[Hanzo hattori]

RS Sanji is Who's Who level at best, RS Sanji > Pageone > DJ Sanji
EOW is a different story

• Now let's discuss the portrayal of Page One :

1- He calls Kyoshiro Boss

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2- whilst Other Tobi Roppo didn't ( Sasaki or WsW showed rivalry and took Drake seriously )

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Good point and Sasaki said he will make Denjiro pay for what he did if the injured Denjiro ended up helping Franky then Pageone is way weaker than Sasaki and Who's Who

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Then tell me, why was Page One gone missing for two weeks?

And Sanji did make Page One bleeds.

The fight got off-screened is because it would ruin Usopp's hype.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/why-sanji-vs-p1-was-off-panelled.12009/

And Law stated that Stealth Black was tough to fight against.

And Sanji did say that he will take care of him quickly.

Page One returned because of his Zoan regeneration.

I posted panels of the colored version there is no blood there don't spam your headcanons ;
When Zoro fought Denjiro ; he went missing ? Where did he go ?

 

[Fuckthis3]

RS Sanji is Who's Who level at best, RS Sanji > Pageone > DJ Sanji
EOW is a different story

Good point and Sasaki said he will make Denjiro pay for what he did if the injured Denjiro ended up helping Franky then Pageone is way weaker than Sasaki and Who's Who

Not even close lol jinbei and denjiro dont compare to big mom page one >

 

[Jailer]

I didn't read shit but yes

 

[HD-Sanji]

Well this was a pathetic attempt at slander. Have fun with the shit talk until sanji fucks up a calamity sanji had page one screaming and crying but page one could hardly land a hit. He had like 2 minutes to fight him before xdrake and Hawkins showed up. Lmao who the fuck cares if he didn't one shot him like some fodder. Zoro couldn't beat apoo while he was distracted. And apoos durability <<< page ones. Yet I'm not here shit talking him.

 

[Julius]

Half of the RS talk are headcanons, like Sanji didn't blitzed anyone else in the series lol, the speed boosters are speeding up Sanji's kicks?? Wtf? You could argue that it helps Sanji to fly and move easier, we didn't even see him using Skywalk with the RS, RS Sanji has too damn much possibilities to work out, but attack power is much more related to the character raw strength and haki than anything.
All of this is like saying Zoro has no CoO cuz he got completely distracted by fodder, and his durability is complete shit cuz he fainted due to Killer's random scythes.
It's saying that Zoro trying to kill Orochi in the flower capital and clashing with Denjiro means that they are close or even equal

"Watch out guys, Page One and Ulti may be close to Luffy confirmed "

Sanji made Page One go hybrid with 3 random kicks, if even the genius nerd Surgeon of Death Trafalgar D. Water Law hyped the Ancient Zoans by himself, why did you guys think they're bullshit? And now Oda makes Big Mom uses her first CoC punch in the WHOLE series against Page One (and he is most likely getting up soon).
Sanji's last blow made Page One scream out loudly to the point of where Law, Franky and Usopp could hear, he most likely tried to beat him down but not knowing how much effort he would need to put (which means he understimated Page One).

Note that during the whole fight Sanji wasn't even serious, the guy was enjoying his dream being fulfilled, in the middle of the fight he was thinking about peeking washrooms, thats when Page One made his move. The fact that Page One used hybrid so fast and got confident about the attack means that he USED a lot of power on this, thinking it was sufficient. Sanji hurt Page One a lot and most likely left, he was worried about destroying the city, and X-Drake and Hawkins could show up, recognize Sanji or get hostages to make Sanji fightback (as it was one of his main reasons initially), nothing can't change the fact that Page One just showed up again on Onigashima a week later (probably cuz he was handicapped), while X-Drake and Hawkins didn't

 

[NotTommy]

Sanji didn't complete his mission to weaken Kaido's forces and Page One failed to take down Sangoro and he take him to Kyoshiro. There was no winner but based on what we saw, Sanji had the upper hand (though if anyone has a different interpretation that's fine).

We can call them cheap shots but invisibility is part of Sanji's abilities now and he's gonna make use of it. Page One thinking Sanji was knocked out or dead was his fault, I don't see anything wrong with Sanji taking advantage of his enemy's overconfidence. Just saying that in a drawn-out fight, nothing will stop Sanji from making use of what he has and his enemy's relaxed attitude will obviously lead to openings Sanji will exploit.

I disagree that the Raid Suit's kicks are stronger than Sanji's Diable Jambe kicks (which I read from someone in this thread) but I agree that they're stronger than Sanji's base kicks. Regardless we can critique Sanji quite a bit but when you look at Page One's performance he didn't exactly have the advantage over Sanji (since the poll includes a Page One is stronger option, I wanted to talk on that). Page One knocked Sanji through the houses but Sanji even tells us that that won't be enough and that the town'll collapse before Sanji does. Aside from his strength and durability, he didn't offer much. Sanji landed more attacks and dealt more damage in the same span of half a chapter. We can criticize Sanji for being incapable of drawing blood from Page One in those 3 kicks but Page One visibly being in pain and howling from Sanji's kicks is a worse look than Sanji dusting himself off and saying he felt some pain.

Overall, I agree Sanji didn't beat Page One. How Sanji would do in a match against the other Flying Six members will be made apparent as the arc progresses. If he doesn't beat anyone of note then arguments will continue about Sanji's strength. If he does, then it'll be clear where he stands.

 

[Julius]

"Hawkins nails hurt Zoro = Hawkins got the better of Zoro, Zoro would lose or atleast high diff"
Thats the brilliant kind of logic here

 

[KageFumi]

That's why they seriously need a rematch to end this debate. Raid suit sanji vs hybrid page one, all out fight.

 

[Finalbeta]

I would suggest that Sanji never defeated Page One presumably, he was looking better and still there's no substantial proof yet that he would of managed to strike him down. Probable but not good enough.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Half of the RS talk are headcanons, like Sanji didn't blitzed anyone else in the series lol, the speed boosters are speeding up Sanji's kicks?? Wtf? You could argue that it helps Sanji to fly and move easier, we didn't even see him using Skywalk with the RS, RS Sanji has too damn much possibilities to work out, but attack power is much more related to the character raw strength and haki than anything

Headcanons.com
There is floating devices and speed boosters are giving sanji a boost in speed he was called slow by his brothers lmao
And speed = weight as kizaru said so headacanons from lanji stans

All of this is like saying Zoro has no CoO cuz he got completely distracted by fodder, and his durability is complete shit cuz he fainted due to Killer's random scythes.
It's saying that Zoro trying to kill Orochi in the flower capital and clashing with Denjiro means that they are close or even equal

He said he wanted to finish but he didn't and his durability got a boost by RS's material + defense from the cape sanji tards are in suicide watch

Sanji made Page One go hybrid with 3 random kicks, if even the genius nerd Surgeon of Death Trafalgar D. Water Law hyped the Ancient Zoans by himself, why did you guys think they're bullshit? And now Oda makes Big Mom uses her first CoC punch in the WHOLE series against Page One (and he is most likely getting up soon).

Luffy made Ulti going from hybrid to Zoan form in one attack Next

Sanji's last blow made Page One scream out loudly to the point of where Law, Franky and Usopp could hear, he most likely tried to beat him down but not knowing how much effort he would need to put (which means he understimated Page One)

And page one understimated him when he thought he beat him and let his guard down and didn't use CoA and named attacks next .

Note that during the whole fight Sanji wasn't even serious, the guy was enjoying his dream being fulfilled, in the middle of the fight he was thinking about peeking washrooms, thats when Page One made his move.

He wasn't serious while he used all of RS abilities + he said he wanted to eliminate him
So let's follow your logic Page one isn't serious either he was laughing at sanji and thought he beat him with a no named swing of his hand and didn't use named attacks and CoA

The fact that Page One used hybrid so fast and got confident about the attack means that he USED a lot of power on this, thinking it was sufficient. Sanji hurt Page One a lot and most likely left, he was worried about destroying the city, and X-Drake and Hawkins could show up, recognize Sanji or get hostages to make Sanji fightback (as it was one of his main reasons initially), nothing can't change the fact that Page One just showed up again on Onigashima a week later (probably cuz he was handicapped), while X-Drake and Hawkins didn't

Luffy made Ulti going back to Zoan form from hybrid form in one move what now ?
The fact remains is both Sanji and Page one didn't give their all and both of them didn't give a real damage to the other and both of them could tag the other and in the end both failed in their mission the former didn't eliminate the threat as he said and the latter didn't capture / finish him .

Next

 

[Julius]

Headcanons.com
There is floating devices and speed boosters are giving sanji a boost in speed he was called slow by his brothers lmao
And speed = weight as kizaru said so headacanons from lanji stans

He said he wanted to finish but he didn't and his durability got a boost by RS's material + defense from the cape sanji tards are in suicide watch

Luffy made Ulti going from hybrid to Zoan form in one attack Next

And page one understimated him when he thought he beat him and let his guard down and didn't use CoA and named attacks next .

He wasn't serious while he used all of RS abilities + he said he wanted to eliminate him
So let's follow your logic Page one isn't serious either he was laughing at sanji and thought he beat him with a no named swing of his hand and didn't use named attacks and CoA

Luffy made Ulti going back to Zoan form from hybrid form in one move what now ?
The fact remains is both Sanji and Page one didn't give their all and both of them didn't give a real damage to the other and both of them could tag the other and in the end both failed in their mission the former didn't eliminate the threat as he said and the latter didn't capture / finish him .

Next

Thanks for proving my point, Sanji trashed Page One while having horny thoughts, Sanji's 3 kicks... Luffy's single attack... Luffy on a x1 against Kaido... Seems great

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Thanks for proving my point, Sanji trashed Page One while having horny thoughts, Sanji's 3 kicks... Luffy's single attack... Luffy on a x1 against Kaido... Seems great

Horny thoughts
Dude couldn't beat page one who held back and is fact

 

[Julius]

Horny thoughts
Dude couldn't beat page one who held back and is fact

Page One held back so much that we didn't see him doing the same amount of effort that he did against Sanji until now

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Page One held back so much that we didn't see him doing the same amount of effort that he did against Sanji until now

• Sanji didn't make PO bleeding nor he caused any bruises because of his DF durability .
▪Also PO didn't cause any damage or make sanji bleeding because of the Suit's durability
▪Page one didn't use CoA
▪Sanji has basic CoA .
▪Sanji didn't use DJ .
▪PO didn't use named attacks .

 

[wereng99]

RS SANJI KICK = RS DURABILITY + BASE SANJI KICK + ACCELERATOR ( SPEED = POWER ) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Base Sanji kick .

all of this and he can't hurt page one

It just show how weak sanji is, honestly we need rematch between the two

 

[Julius]

• Sanji didn't make PO bleeding nor he caused any bruises because of his DF durability .
▪Also PO didn't cause any damage or make sanji bleeding because of the Suit's durability
▪Page one didn't use CoA
▪Sanji has basic CoA .
▪Sanji didn't use DJ .
▪PO didn't use named attacks .

PO probably doesn't even have named attacks, he is about raw power, to showcase how much Ancient Zoans are tough by nature, clearly.
Wano has been showing that Sanji's CoA is not regular, he is using it everywhere, even on his whole back to protect Nami against arrows from Kanjuro's attack who destroyed ships and pierced people, he was afraid to hurt Black Maria with his CoA, there was sparks during Sanji/King clash. The amount of effort PO put into taking out Sanji is much more higher than what Sanji did, Sanji defeated Page One casually and having fun, he didn't killed him, have you seen someone in the One Piece world be completely out due to a beating after a whole week? Sanji got the upper hand during the whole thing which even was offscreened with Page One screaming in the backgroung. Zoro fainted against Killer and got up with Hyiori, Killer got K.Oed by Rengoku Onigiri and he was awake at Udon, what is your point exactly?

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

probably doesn't even have named attacks, he is about raw power, to showcase how much Ancient Zoans are tough by nature, clearly.

Headcanons.com

Wano has been showing that Sanji's CoA is not regular, he is using it everywhere, even on his whole back to protect Nami against arrows from Kanjuro's attack who destroyed ships and pierced people, he was afraid to hurt Black Maria with his CoA, there was sparks during Sanji/King clash.

Sanji didn't show black hardening he only uses basic CoA

The amount of effort PO put into taking out Sanji is much more higher than what Sanji did, Sanji defeated Page One casually and having fun, he didn't killed him, have you seen someone in the One Piece world be completely out due to a beating after a whole week? Sanji got the upper hand during the whole thing which even was offscreened with Page One screaming in the backgroung

Page one used just a no named swing of his hand he did quite an effort
While sanji used invisibility + Accelerators + floating device + Used durability of the suit
In the end he didn't beat him nor give a real damage

Zoro fainted against Killer and got up with Hyiori, Killer got K.Oed by Rengoku Onigiri and he was awake at Udon, what is your point exactly?

Zoro won per VC words a complete victory we are still waiting for sanji's one

 

[Julius]

Source: Oda's Whatsapp

 

[WhiteBeardDGoat]

Sanji ran away from page1,we should get a rematch but Oda fucked up
I doubt page1 will up after that punch