Powers & Abilities Sanji CoC

#43
Prime Chinjao didnt have the same character as DR Chinjao, and Usopp having CoC is still a theory.
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Zoro's CoC was being hinted since preTS and it had a developement, Sanji will get none, especially if Gaban doesnt appear in the story or appears and he doesnt have it.
DR Chinjao is still a CoC user and he’s STILL a clown

lmaoooo you and I both know Chinjao having CoC over LAW and Sanji is wild
 
#44
What about ace? Lol also fear is fear dont run away from your arguament when hancock and ace debunk it

another case is BB, he was crying out of fear vs whitebeard because he thought he gonna die lol
????? Ace never ran from anything, he even chased BB despite fucking Shanks telling WB to stop him.
BB didnt run away from WB he fucking faced him lmao, what is this are you reading correctly, BB literally invaded Marineford and Impeldown just to face WB and get Gura LMAO
 
#45
Thats the point Sanji isnt a reincarnation of any legend. Luffy = Joyboy
Zoro = Ryuma
BB = Rox....
Worstgen are the only candidates for CoC, what legend can Sanji become ? He's gonna retire a fucking cheff, why would he get CoC
Oh my god this isnt naruto my guy nobody is nobodys reincarnation wtf are u talking about lol, i already said i dont think sanji is getting CoC in my post but the arguaments you are coming up with are pure BS
 
#47
????? Ace never ran from anything, he even chased BB despite fucking Shanks telling WB to stop him.
BB didnt run away from WB he fucking faced him lmao, what is this are you reading correctly, BB literally invaded Marineford and Impeldown just to face WB and get Gura LMAO
Iam talking about ace running from his fathers name and his backstory...

BB shit himself when he saw whitebeard
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He clashed with prime Garp tho.
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Yeah bro manga skipper spotted. I'm out.

yeah im manga skipper and according to you BB didnt shit himself and didnt beg for his life
Ok buddy, lmfao
 
#48
He clashed with prime Garp tho.
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Yeah bro manga skipper spotted. I'm out.
Clashing with Prime Garp just means he was strong

That doesn’t mean he deserves CoC.... he doesn’t act like a conqueror at all times

Garp, Rayleigh, Sengoku, etc all still carry themselves like conquerors even in old age while Chinjao broke down crying over something that happened 30 years ago

Law should definitely have it over Chinjao imo and Sanji has a chance ig
 
#49
Yh cause Baratie Sanji cares any fricking morsel about Zoro’s dream. Why do you cucks always bring that up, and not this.



Literally more recent. Literally Sanji telling Zoro to not abandon his dream.
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Cry
Well this would certainly carry a lot more weight if Sanji hadn't given up on the Straw Hats and his dream of All Blue to trust in Big Mom and Pudding instead. Better practice what you preach, Sanji, or are you admitting Zoro's dream is more important than yours? :catlewd:

Kaido to Luffy - "What kind of king did you say you'd be?"

King to Zoro - "So you want to be a king?"

No one, ever, to Sanji -

I'd ask you to fill in the blanks, but you can't. :queenhear:

Cry.
 
#50
Clashing with Prime Garp just means he was strong

That doesn’t mean he deserves CoC.... he doesn’t act like a conqueror at all times

Garp, Rayleigh, Sengoku, etc all still carry themselves like conquerors even in old age while Chinjao broke down crying over something that happened 30 years ago

Law should definitely have it over Chinjao imo and Sanji has a chance ig
You gotta understand that Chinjao is from the previous generation, you dont just come and say Law deserves it over him. Law chose to follow Luffy despite him having a crew his ambition is lacking big time, thats why a weakling like Midd got it over Law, just because Kidd has a greater ambition and faced Kaido alone before he got neg diffed. In his place Law wouldve not taken the 1v2 vs Kaido.
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Iam talking about ace running from his fathers name and his backstory...

BB shit himself when he saw whitebeard
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yeah im manga skipper and according to you BB didnt shit himself and didnt beg for his life
Ok buddy, lmfao
What the actual fuck are you talking about ? Where is BB running from WB ?????????
Ace didnt run from his fathers name, he chose WBs name over his fathers, stop skipping manga and stop quoting me, go back to reddit.
 
#53
Where did i talk about him deserving it or not... i just said if he doesnt get it this arc, he is most likely isnt getting it at all since his character will be comepleted after this arc.
my message was that oda can give anyone coc, it wasn't a response to your message.
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is this guy 12 or something?
what do you mean?
 
#54
It's not about Sanji not caring about Zoro's dream at baratie. He displayed a general mentality by saying "running away is better than clinging to your ambition".

And the scene of Sanji at Thriller Bark telling Zoro to not abandon his ambition, was when Zoro already moved past that, by saying his ambition is worth nothing if he cannot even protect his captain, with Mihawk pointing out that Zoro found a greater ambition. It was similar to Oden, when Oden let go of the chain clinging to Whitebeard's ship as he heard Toki being in danger, with Whitebeard saying that Oden let go of his ambition for a greater cause.

True conqueror's are always a step ahead in their ambition.

To be ready to die for his own ambition, while throwing that same ambition away for their nakama is a quality of a King.

Conquerors even as children are willing to die.
Again if you had an ounce of reading ability. You could see that Sanji cares more about Zoro’s life then his ambition in the Baratie. He barely knows him, why tf does he care about his ambition. He sees random human about to die for a stupid cause in Sanji’s eye. He wont give a fuck. Dont act like this is Sanji’s mentality….since he never ran away from his ambition. He always planned for the All Blue, but he got subsided for his debt.

Again Sanji talked about Zoro’s ambition and not his life. Logically in that scene Sanji treasures Zoro’s ambition, respects it and wants him to achieve it. Thats the difference, because he now has grown to become crew mates with him.
 
#56
Well this would certainly carry a lot more weight if Sanji hadn't given up on the Straw Hats and his dream of All Blue to trust in Big Mom and Pudding instead. Better practice what you preach, Sanji, or are you admitting Zoro's dream is more important than yours? :catlewd:

Kaido to Luffy - "What kind of king did you say you'd be?"

King to Zoro - "So you want to be a king?"

No one, ever, to Sanji -

I'd ask you to fill in the blanks, but you can't. :queenhear:

Cry.
Im not saying you're wrong and that Sanji is a CoC user but your interpretation of Sanji's decision on WCI is flawed.

Sanji is altruistic, why hes always helping others and has very little self worth subconsciously (More hints that he probably wont get COC) That lack of self worth is why he always feels indebted to people who do good by him like Luffy Zeff Reiju etc So his actions on WCI were more about sacrificing himself so that his family troubles wouldn't hinder Luffy and the crew while also protecting Zeff than about trusting Big Mom and Pudding lol In his mind he and his dream arent worth the trouble Luffy was going to have to go thru to save him fighting a Yonko's crew. Luffy had to prove him wrong, which is why the "Without you I can't be PK" Line hit Sanji the way it did.

I often see that misconstrued view of Sanji on WCI and I've always found it weird lol

I will also say this his decision to take on the burden and sacrifice himself and his happiness for the benefit of others is a Kingly trait in OP. Oden took similar steps in his actions vs Kaido and Oroch, Dancing for 5 years to prevent wide scale warfare and the deaths of innocents, and he is indeed a Conqueror.

Personally I'm on the fence regarding Sanji having CoC. He's my favorite character but I never envisioned him having it like I did for Zoro. That is until Katakuri had it. His dream/will is all about protecting his family while also being extremely self-conscious about how he's viewed. Not an apple to apple comparison to Sanji but that insecurity and need to protect is present within Sanji.
 
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