Current Events Sanji > Marco this arc

Marco has 1,37 bounty, same as queen that has 1,32 bounty. so sanji this arc is going to beat someone on par with marco and he is also getting bigger bounty then marco this arc. marco the best yonkou commander and legendary pirate

the sanji downplay stops here, you only look like a clown from now on.

I don’t think Sanji or Zoro will have higher bounty than Queen or King this arc even if they beat them solo..

I think they may reach the level of bounties that Big Mom YCs have with Zoro reaching billion, Sanji in 900s, Jinbe in 800s...etc.
While Luffy will break the 3 billion bounty...

Because I still think Luffy and SHs will have one extra major raise after beating Blackbeard and crowing the SH crew as pirate king crew

That’s where Luffy will have highest bounty among pirates, while Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe...etc they will exceeds the bounty of their counterparts from highest YCs like Marco/Ben/King...etc..
 
Marco has 1,37 bounty, same as queen that has 1,32 bounty. so sanji this arc is going to beat someone on par with marco and he is also getting bigger bounty then marco this arc. marco the best yonkou commander and legendary pirate

the sanji downplay stops here, you only look like a clown from now on.

Lol if Queen loses to Sanji that doesnt make Sanji higher but will show us that Queen cant beat a Daifuku or Vergo level character
BP are the trash of One Piece fodders nothing more
 

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Nan, beating Queen extreme diff or very high diff doesn’t mean you can beat Marco

Marco > Queen

But yeah end of Wano Sanji can indeed give a good fight to Marco but don’t win
Indeed it's what I was attempting to explain to @Zoro D Goat last day.

It's yet unclear where Queen stands before Marco. We could make a rough guess by comparing Queen with King and then King and Marco but we don't even have yet acknowledged where Queen stands before King.
 
Oh? Give an example where Sanji is figuratively the hope of the strawhats
Enies Lobby saving the crew from the Buster call by opening the Gates , reinvigorating ussop's morale, Mr Prince moment when luffy, zoro, ussop, nami,and smokey were imprisoned and hadn't a chance to escape.. saved the crew from BM, Saved momo from being executed (who's death would have donned gloom over the allies and imminent defeat), Saved chopper and stood as an example of courage when hoax news about luffy dying was being spread..



in all of these cases.. not only was he a becon of hope but a source morale and initiative.. that coincides well with the symbolic meaning of a Phoenix
 
Enies Lobby saving the crew from the Buster call by opening the Gates , reinvigorating ussop's morale, Mr Prince moment when luffy, zoro, ussop, nami,and smokey were imprisoned and hadn't a chance to escape.. saved the crew from BM, Saved momo from being executed (who's death would have donned gloom over the allies and imminent defeat), Saved chopper and stood as an example of courage when hoax news about luffy dying was being spread..



in all of these cases.. not only was he a becon of hope but a source morale and initiative.. that coincides well with the symbolic meaning of a Phoenix
Are you saying Luffy and Zoro don’t have these moments as well? Or are Luffy and Zoro also the Phoenix of the crew?
 
Are you saying Luffy and Zoro don’t have these moments as well? Or are Luffy and Zoro also the Phoenix of the crew?
Again symbolically a Phoenix is someone who carves a way out of dire situations when no one else in the crew can can and the situation is of utmost convoluted precariousness hence becoming a source of hope in that instance .

Luffy may be the Beacon of morale and fortitude for the crew but he hasn't been a source of initiative when things looked dire... in luffy's case luck and determination runs in his blood passages open up for him he really is a monolith of miracles...but a Phoenix emerges from most dire of situations and becomes a beacon of hope.. which isn't really luffy

Don't get me wrong luffy in Arlong park was a ray of hope for.. but merely a ray of hope doesn't define a Phoenix "Rising from Ashes"


Zoro on the other hand isn't one as well since definition doesn't define zoro.. he has saved many and has sacrificed himself for his captain but hasn't been a beacon of initiative in precarious situations.. even with his fight against peca.. saving the king just took him flying and doing the job.. wasn't really precarious for him.. but just a matter of cutting the foe.


the example suits sanji alot especially when you consider his actions individually for his crew
 
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