Powers & Abilities "Sanji uses the RS because he was too weak"

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Reality:

> And maybe you can save lives.......

Which he did.

> Putting this thing on doesn't mean that I'm a Germa, I'm only testing it out.

Yup. Sanji stated that he will never use Germa technology for self benefits gain.

Sanji didn't use the RS as a form of power-up but rather he wants to save his friends by using it which he always does.

"But but Sanji's character got ruined by Germa"

More like when Base Sanji is serious, he fucks your favs up.

Conclusion: The Raid Suit is not a power-up. He only uses it to saves his friends. That's all from Goat.

#SanjiSavesLives
#Swagji

 

[hedera__helix]

 

[Crush]

sad thread

 

[Missy]

I think others ppl already know thats, Lil' Goat..
that he using the RS for saving purpose and not for fighting until Oda write otherwise...

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

I think others ppl already know thats, Lil' Goat..

Just have to make sure cuz I know at least 2 people think otherwise.

 

[Den_Den_Mushi]

You literally just proved the point people were making. Sanji wouldn’t have to swallow his pride and accept the raid suit if he was actually strong enough to go without it. If you offered something like this to say, Shanks, he would laugh it off because he doesn’t need it. Whether or not it was a moral or admirable decision doesn’t change the fact that

Sanji

Wasn’t

Strong

Enough

The entire reason Niji gave it to him was because he was slow as fuck and getting shot by regular bullets. There’s no escaping reality. The raid suit exists solely because Sanji isn’t half as strong as he or his family wants him to be.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I’ve said it in other threads but I’ll post it again here because I believe everything you’ve listed here are flaws Sanji needs to overcome. He still isn’t accepting his full self. Sanji is a Vinesmoke. And Judge and his shitty siblings can’t do anything about it. He’s a Vinesmoke and the greatest of all of them whether they want to accept it or not.

I believe the point of Queen’s connection to Judge is to give Sanji a chance to finish the character arc he started in WCI and embrace himself as Vinesmoke Sanji. I think his moment with Momo where Sanji congratulated him on refusing to throw away his Kozuki name is foreshadowing for Sanji’s own growth.

All of the excuses Sanji makes for using his raid suit are still him rejecting who is is. I actually think Sanji not incorporating DJ into his RS yet could be him refusing to embrace both sides of himself but that’s just speculation/headcanon for now.

I believe Sanji is going to start out this fight in Base, but it’s not going to be enough and he’s going to have to accept the RS for real, as a power up. Sanji using the RS for power isn’t a disgrace, it’s him embracing a birthright others tried to take from him. Anyone who wants Sanji to get CoC should embrace it because his Royal linage is his best route he has to it imo. If he’s to get I believe it will be because he’s the first true Germa conqueror in a few hundred years.

People who are worried about the RS meaning he’s weak without it are silly. Who cares? These guys are Pirates and strength is strength by any means necessary. He can reap the benefits and still get stronger himself as well.

 

[mrtsrdr]

Sanji uses the RS because he was too weak

Where is RS Power ? Somebody see . ?

 

[Rootbeer]

Doing good against Queen's weakest form when Sanji is in base doesn't mean much. Lets see him using poele a frire on Brachiosaurus first, something that really hurts Queen.

Also, no one will ever convince me that the Raid Suit is a good thing.. Even if it looks cool

 

[mrtsrdr]

Doing good against Queen's weakest form when Sanji is in base doesn't mean much. Lets see him using poele a frire on Brachiosaurus first, something that really hurts Queen.

Also, no one will ever convince me that the Raid Suit is a good thing.. Even if it looks cool

I guess Sanji dont know how to use . But When we saw judge 4 using RS , RS looks realy good.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

You literally just proved the point people were making. Sanji wouldn’t have to swallow his pride and accept the raid suit if he was actually strong enough to go without it. If you offered something like this to say, Shanks, he would laugh it off because he doesn’t need it. Whether or not it was a moral or admirable decision doesn’t change the fact that

Sanji

Wasn’t

Strong

Enough

The entire reason Niji gave it to him was because he was slow as fuck and getting shot by regular bullets. There’s no escaping reality. The raid suit exists solely because Sanji isn’t half as strong as he or his family wants him to be.

Luffy and Chopper wants to use the Raid Suit. Doesn't mean that they're weak. Niji was just teasing Sanji and Sanji's statement is a prove of it. And RS can only be equipped by the Vinsmokes. If Shanks was able to wear it then he will get "stronger" but he doesn't need it like you said. Sanji only uses the RS for disguise and saving his friends. That's it.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

If you offered something like this to say, Shanks, he would laugh it off because he doesn’t need it.

And Shank would be a fool if he did. It could only make him stronger, regardless of how strong he already is. Rejecting additional strength for no reason other than pride would be foolish and a selfish disservice to every member of his crew.

 

[Herrera95]

WTF are you talking about?

Anyway, I just realized how Sanji base form got an amazing boost out of nowhere. And that shit is happening many times in this arc with many characters(protagonists only). Luffy, Nami, Zeus, Luffy, Scabbards, Hyogoro, Luffy...

Maybe Oda comes with a bullshit like "Wano have something magical that makes people stronger the longer you are at that island. But only works on 'good' people."

 

[Dr_Professor83]

WTF are you talking about?

Anyway, I just realized how Sanji base form got an amazing boost out of nowhere. And that shit is happening many times in this arc with many characters(protagonists only). Luffy, Nami, Zeus, Luffy, Scabbards, Hyogoro, Luffy...

Maybe Oda comes with a bullshit like "Wano have something magical that makes people stronger the longer you are at that island. But only works on 'good' people."

You ever hear about a place called Enies Loby?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

I’ve said it in other threads but I’ll post it again here because I believe everything you’ve listed here are flaws Sanji needs to overcome. He still isn’t accepting his full self. Sanji is a Vinesmoke. And Judge and his shitty siblings can’t do anything about it. He’s a Vinesmoke and the greatest of all of them whether they want to accept it or not.

I believe the point of Queen’s connection to Judge is to give Sanji a chance to finish the character arc he started in WCI and embrace himself as Vinesmoke Sanji. I think his moment with Momo where Sanji congratulated him on refusing to throw away his Kozuki name is foreshadowing for Sanji’s own growth.

All of the excuses Sanji makes for using his raid suit are still him rejecting who is is. I actually think Sanji not incorporating DJ into his RS yet could be him refusing to embrace both sides of himself but that’s just speculation/headcanon for now.

I believe Sanji is going to start out this fight in Base, but it’s not going to be enough and he’s going to have to accept the RS for real, as a power up. Sanji using the RS for power isn’t a disgrace, it’s him embracing a birthright others tried to take from him. Anyone who wants Sanji to get CoC should embrace it because his Royal linage is his best route he has to it. If he’s to get I believe it will be because he’s the first true Germa conqueror in a few hundred years.

People who are worried about the RS meaning he’s weak without it are silly. Who cares? These guys are Pirates and strength is strength by any means necessary. He can reap the benefits and still get stronger himself as well.

I agree. Sanji will overcome his past and become a new person. He will stop using the RS and start to use his own power to fight to prove Judge wrong. I don't think Sanji will throw his RS away or the RS getting destroyed. Sanji will keep it for rescues mission only.

Doing good against Queen's weakest form when Sanji is in base doesn't mean much. Lets see him using poele a frire on Brachiosaurus first, something that really hurts Queen.

Also, no one will ever convince me that the Raid Suit is a good thing.. Even if it looks cool

Uhh.... Nerfed Base Sanji broke Queen's skull while carrying Zoro is not good enough lol?

Sanji indirectly one shots Perospero as well Lmao.

 

[phatltse62882]

I think Sanji after time skip just holding his power, He never get serious when fighting to someone , he lost to doffy because he didnt doffy power like Zoro and Luffy faced Appoo.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

WTF are you talking about?

Anyway, I just realized how Sanji base form got an amazing boost out of nowhere. And that shit is happening many times in this arc with many characters(protagonists only). Luffy, Nami, Zeus, Luffy, Scabbards, Hyogoro, Luffy...

Maybe Oda comes with a bullshit like "Wano have something magical that makes people stronger the longer you are at that island. But only works on 'good' people."

Welcome to One Piece where Sanji barely move Blueno with one of his strongest attack to fighting on par with Hybrid Jabra in one arc.

 

[Herrera95]

You ever hear about a place called Enies Loby?

Enies Lobby. Monster Point was always a thing for Chopper(not sure if Oda ever foreshadowed at Alabasta/Skypea).
Franky was a new introduction, so no power up to him.
Usopp was cooler with fire attacks but nothing that he couldn't do before. I wouldn't consider a power up too.
Nami was only using her clima tact in a intelligent way. No power up.

Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. Sanji spinning around and heating his leg makes sense by physics. Luffy G3 make sense by his DF and G2... not so much. Zoro's Ashura is the most stupid thing I ever saw in this manga.

So only 3 true power ups at Enies Lobby(monster trio) with Sanji's being very well accepted, Luffy's half well accepted and Zoro's complete bullshit.

 

[phatltse62882]

Sanji's kick strong or normal really base on his mood, like he kicked Queen.

 

[Herrera95]

I think Sanji after time skip just holding his power, He never get serious when fighting to someone , he lost to doffy because he didnt doffy power like Zoro and Luffy faced Appoo.

You basically said that Sanji were as strong as G4 Luffy at Dressrosa. Are you aware of that?