Speculations Sanji will lose his Germa Genes

#1
Stop pretending like he's not losing all his germa powers, he willingly decided to destroy the suit and not wear it anymore, so his powers will now slowly dissapear over time. That's what he wants, to go back to being a normal human and not a "monster" like his siblings.
Sanji will lose his powers, most probably defeat Queen as a "normal" human, and reach YC2 off his own skill and not by relying on the one person he most hates to carry him, which is what everyone should want.
If you want him to keep his powers, and you call yourself a Sanji fan, you actually don't want the same thing he wants.
 
#5
It is possible since it is obvious how he hates that powerup, Oda even made him kick a girl and that is for sure a point of no return. But the question at this point is: why did Oda make Sanji character go through this raid suit before and now the esoskeleton if he is going to discard them both? About making the esoskeleton go I could see Vegapunk do it but all this can not be just to introduce him.
 
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#7
why did Oda make Sanji character go theough this raid suit before and now the esoskeleton if he is going to discard them both?
I think Oda wrote this plot for those fans who want Sanji to fight women. He is basically saying 'either you take this Sanji, the emotional, kind, simping Sanji who doesn't hurt women
or
you get a Sanji who fights women but stops being a normal human being'

The author himself is telling us that there will never be a 'normal' Sanji who drops his not beating women code, the trait is an integral part of Sanji's character.

As much as I dislike it, this is without a doubt the route that Oda chose to take with Sanji.
 
#8
Stop pretending like he's not losing all his germa powers, he willingly decided to destroy the suit and not wear it anymore, so his powers will now slowly dissapear over time. That's what he wants, to go back to being a normal human and not a "monster" like his siblings.
Sanji will lose his powers, most probably defeat Queen as a "normal" human, and reach YC2 off his own skill and not by relying on the one person he most hates to carry him, which is what everyone should want.
If you want him to keep his powers, and you call yourself a Sanji fan, you actually don't want the same thing he wants.
You understood nothing.... He stopped the transformation when he saw that it's going to twist his mind, that's the only thing that bothered him since the begining... He also said in this chapter that what has been done is done, so in a way he accepted it but he also said he will not let it go further than this (talking about emotion) that's why he destroyed raid suit... He will eventually lose his emotions at some point but he will find a way to keep controling them in a daily basis (kinda like the HULK trying not to transform) and only activating that beast cold blooded mode when facing a strong opponent...
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#10
Ehhh Law would need to perform some gene editing technique which sounds complicated but perhaps not in a verse like One Piece.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
#11
I really hate these fucking snowflakes.

"Hurr durr bad thing for character happens, got erase it all or character is dead".

Life is not always about what we "want". There are much more things that we can't control than the other way around. And these things often brings challenges. Sometimes you need to compromise things you believe in order to move forward. Sometimes you can work around them, etc. Life is an extremely complex phenomenon with endless possibilities.

The character says: using the raid suit awakened my modifications. no way around it, but I refuse to lose any more grasp".
The character understand that he can't revert the awakening, and now needs to deal with his new reality. That is an INFINITELY more interesting proposition than:
"hurr durr Sanji needs to go on quest to revert back the modifications because human hurr durr."
"Bu- bu- but the character doesnt want the modifications".

Pretty sure Luffy didn't want Ace to die.
Pretty sure Nami didn't want her mother shot in front of her.
Pretty sure Brook didn't want to get stuck for decades on a drifting ship surrounded by the bodies of his companions.
Pretty sure Zoro didn't want to lose to Mihawk at the Baratie.
Pretty sure Sanji didn't want the modifications.
Etc.

All of these characters face events that they don't wish to happen.
Doesn't mean they are trying to find a way to travel back to the past to revert everything like every single "shit goes wrong" time travel plot ever.

Fucking snowflake can't handle a simple power up because apparently he wants Sanji to solo the entire universe with his eyes closed, with just one leg, blindfolded, while an infant.

And, to top it all, this person has the fucking AUDACITY to say some BS like "IF YOU'RE A SANJI FAN, YOU REALLY ARE NOT". Buddy, who the fuck do you think you are to say what I am or what I like. or anyone else?
Enjoy or criticize the story. Throw your opinions out there. Say you don't like something because reasons. But if your take is trying to determine what people should or shouldn't like, then better keep things to yourself.

hurr durr "his own skill".
I have news for you buddy.
No a single SH got strong "on their own". They had teachers, guidance, etc. All of these things are external factors that contribute to the character's growth. Whether it is a master teaching you swordsmanship, someone teaching you Haki, or some mad scientist modifying you at birth.
 
#12
I think Oda wrote this plot for those fans who want Sanji to fight women. He is basically saying 'either you take this Sanji, the emotional, kind, simping Sanji who doesn't hurt women
or
you get a Sanji who fights women but stops being a normal human being'

The author himself is telling us that there will never be a 'normal' Sanji who drops his not beating women code, the trait is an integral part of Sanji's character.

As much as I dislike it, this is without a doubt the route that Oda chose to take with Sanji.
Do Sanji fans like that exist? I mean Sanji not hitting womans is his main trait since day 1 along with the use of legs cause his hands are only for cooking. Do all this just to prove something to a non existent minority who doesn't even understand the character imo is not the case.
 
#14
I really hate these fucking snowflakes.

"Hurr durr bad thing for character happens, got erase it all or character is dead".

Life is not always about what we "want". There are much more things that we can't control than the other way around. And these things often brings challenges. Sometimes you need to compromise things you believe in order to move forward. Sometimes you can work around them, etc. Life is an extremely complex phenomenon with endless possibilities.

The character says: using the raid suit awakened my modifications. no way around it, but I refuse to lose any more grasp".
The character understand that he can't revert the awakening, and now needs to deal with his new reality. That is an INFINITELY more interesting proposition than:
"hurr durr Sanji needs to go on quest to revert back the modifications because human hurr durr."
"Bu- bu- but the character doesnt want the modifications".

Pretty sure Luffy didn't want Ace to die.
Pretty sure Nami didn't want her mother shot in front of her.
Pretty sure Brook didn't want to get stuck for decades on a drifting ship surrounded by the bodies of his companions.
Pretty sure Zoro didn't want to lose to Mihawk at the Baratie.
Pretty sure Sanji didn't want the modifications.
Etc.

All of these characters face events that they don't wish to happen.
Doesn't mean they are trying to find a way to travel back to the past to revert everything like every single "shit goes wrong" time travel plot ever.

Fucking snowflake can't handle a simple power up because apparently he wants Sanji to solo the entire universe with his eyes closed, with just one leg, blindfolded, while an infant.

And, to top it all, this person has the fucking AUDACITY to say some BS like "IF YOU'RE A SANJI FAN, YOU REALLY ARE NOT". Buddy, who the fuck do you think you are to say what I am or what I like. or anyone else?
Enjoy or criticize the story. Throw your opinions out there. Say you don't like something because reasons. But if your take is trying to determine what people should or shouldn't like, then better keep things to yourself.

hurr durr "his own skill".
I have news for you buddy.
No a single SH got strong "on their own". They had teachers, guidance, etc. All of these things are external factors that contribute to the character's growth. Whether it is a master teaching you swordsmanship, someone teaching you Haki, or some mad scientist modifying you at birth.
Completely insane take.
The basis of your argument relies on the fact that this is just something that Sanji has to learn to deal with like Ace's death, or other EVENTS people actively need to grow with. This is not the case here, this powerup fundamentally changes who Sanji is, he actively is against becoming a Germa practically every panel, the essence of his character is that he relies on his own values, not those of his family. It's thematic, and him keeping the powers clashes with that very theme.
What you're asking for is the same as asking for Luffy to simply deal with killing another strawhat himself. Something that will never happen because that's not who his character is.
Character challenges exist so that characters may grow in a way that is both thematically consistent with their character and narrative. That is why Sanji is right now denying the Germa tech, that is why he doesn't want to become one of his sibling, because that is his character growth. To have his growth be "separate from Germa" and his skill powerup be "earns germa abilities" is disassociation.


And I mention "his own skill", because that's literally HOW HE CLAIMS HE'S GOING TO FIGHT.
 
#17
He's not losing his Germa powers. He only avoided being modified even further by wearing the RS another time, which would have probably completed the transformation and turned him into a black haired bastard permanently. Now he can focus on figuring out a way to use his emotions as a mean to shut down his evil side for good.

Feels like black hair Sanji is a dead dream. :josad: Unless Chopper creates a drug that can achieve Sanji's transformation for a short amount of time, which would make a ton of sense because the only way to incorporate a black haired Sanji into the story is to make sure it's a temporary event.

I really hate these fucking snowflakes.

"Hurr durr bad thing for character happens, got erase it all or character is dead".

Life is not always about what we "want". There are much more things that we can't control than the other way around. And these things often brings challenges. Sometimes you need to compromise things you believe in order to move forward. Sometimes you can work around them, etc. Life is an extremely complex phenomenon with endless possibilities.

The character says: using the raid suit awakened my modifications. no way around it, but I refuse to lose any more grasp".
The character understand that he can't revert the awakening, and now needs to deal with his new reality. That is an INFINITELY more interesting proposition than:
"hurr durr Sanji needs to go on quest to revert back the modifications because human hurr durr."
"Bu- bu- but the character doesnt want the modifications".

Pretty sure Luffy didn't want Ace to die.
Pretty sure Nami didn't want her mother shot in front of her.
Pretty sure Brook didn't want to get stuck for decades on a drifting ship surrounded by the bodies of his companions.
Pretty sure Zoro didn't want to lose to Mihawk at the Baratie.
Pretty sure Sanji didn't want the modifications.
Etc.

All of these characters face events that they don't wish to happen.
Doesn't mean they are trying to find a way to travel back to the past to revert everything like every single "shit goes wrong" time travel plot ever.

Fucking snowflake can't handle a simple power up because apparently he wants Sanji to solo the entire universe with his eyes closed, with just one leg, blindfolded, while an infant.

And, to top it all, this person has the fucking AUDACITY to say some BS like "IF YOU'RE A SANJI FAN, YOU REALLY ARE NOT". Buddy, who the fuck do you think you are to say what I am or what I like. or anyone else?
Enjoy or criticize the story. Throw your opinions out there. Say you don't like something because reasons. But if your take is trying to determine what people should or shouldn't like, then better keep things to yourself.

hurr durr "his own skill".
I have news for you buddy.
No a single SH got strong "on their own". They had teachers, guidance, etc. All of these things are external factors that contribute to the character's growth. Whether it is a master teaching you swordsmanship, someone teaching you Haki, or some mad scientist modifying you at birth.
 
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#18
the problem is sanji need power up weather he like it or not the enemies not gonna wait him to training and we not need another training arc
oda fucked up sanji 2 year timeskip bu using him to study food instead okama kempo so oda use the easy way in RS and germa Gene modification ....
now the only thing oda do is like Hulk storyline sanji with split personality or sanji finally controled his new gene modification power ....
 
#19
Sanji's gene powers are not from Germa, they are from his mother who wanted him to keep his emotions.. He's the only genetic modification with emotion that was successful and down the line awakened his powers and retained his emotions.. Sanji's awakened genes represent Sora's ideals.. Not Judge
 
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Ballel

#20
Do all this just to prove something to a non existent minority who doesn't even understand the character imo is not the case.
I don't think they are a minority.
Oda is not writing this for Sanji fans but for the general readers, many of whom are not Sanji fans.
 
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