Powers & Abilities Sanji's germa power ups aren't unearned

#24
Name one decent opponent that Sanji has defeated since TS, without having to use his RS and judge's gene modification.

You can't, because there hasn't be one.

Sanji's TS training is so poor that Oda decides to gift him an instant PU instead.

The dude really did nothing but hanging out with okamas for 2 years... :milaugh:
 
#29
Not unearned but sort of rushed and his "conflicted feelings" weren't expanded upon so you're just there accepting what just happened.

It's like how some people felt about Zoro trading for Enma and Nami with Zeus.

The upgrades themselves are fine on paper, but the execution to make all those upgrades feel natural or "earned" wasn't done properly.

That's what happens when you sideline other characters that aren't Luffy.
 
#30
soooo.... on the worst case is the same as Zoro suddenly can spliting fire shit, when did he earned it?

he cant out of nowhere says 'oh well, i without any indication just learns it offscreened'
 
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#31
Ofc he deserve it, how many chapters we get since the timeskip and how much powerups Sanji get during all these chapters?
Nothing!! And we speak her about a gap of 400chapters where Sanji didn´t get any powerup!!
Show me a other manga where a maincast member not get a single powerup in fucking 400chapters?
Can you imagine Sasuke not getting any powerup during 400chapters? Hell even Sakura and Kakashi get multiple powerups.
I don´t know any manga who let his maincast member wait so long until he get his another powerup.
Yeah you can dislike the meaning about his powerup, I can understand this part, but overall Sanji need a powerup and im glad he get it.
And if you look at the past 400 chapters, a haki powerup in same way as Luffy get or Zoro, wouldn´t make sense for Sanji, his forte was build up around his modified power.

Oda show how he crack his Leg against Vergo.
How he didn´t had much power or durability against Doffy, how he lose to Judge(even though of a cheat way).
Oda case since PH was to upgrade overall Sanji body before starting with adv haki versions.
Im pretty sure the adv haki are the key later for beating a Admiral.
For now Sanji awake his own needed powerup, later he can add Advanced CoO+CoA and perhaps even adv CoC.

As I said the way and which powerup he get and why people dislike it, I can understand it.
People who wanted a other powerup, I can understand it.
But he for sure at least deserve finally a powerup which happen last chapter.
 
#32
I don't know if people are trolling or just legitimately aren't thinking about this hard enough. No, sanji wasn't given "unearned power ups". Are they the same thing as advanced haki? No. But just because sanji didn't train for them doesn't mean they are unearned. Need I remind you why sanji was given the raid suit to begin with?

Sanji had the opportunity to dip out of whole cake island with Luffy and let the family who abused him for all his life be brutally murdered by the big mom pirates. Instead, He went back and saved the people who made his childhood a living hell, not because he likes any of them(bar reiju), but rather out of his own code of honor.

Sanji helped the vinsmokes when he had every single reason not to. And as a result, the vinsmokes were in sanji's debt. This led to them saving sanji in the end of WCI and giving him the raid suit as well. The raid suit and any powers derived from it are a direct result of sanji's selflessness. In what world this is somehow an unearned power up, I cannot tell.

The truth is, Sanji and Zoro are different characters and Sanji's conflicts are different from Zoro's conflicts. Zoro's character revolves this concept of strength. He's supposed to be the Guts of one piece. So obviously, his power up is going to be something he trains for. Sanji is a cook, he is the guy who fed his enemies because he didn't want them to starve. An arc that focuses on sanji will obviously focus on that part of sanji's character and not try to make sanji out to be a blonde zoro, like some people want him to be. Ultimately, I think its really pathetic when trolls on this forum needlessly bash sanji for not measuring up to zoro's standards.
Good read Monkey D Theories.

I will also point out how fans have overlooked the hardship he faced for not awakening his abilities all life. If this Exoskeleton saved him now, it also made his life hell for most part of it.
 
#36
Name one decent opponent that Sanji has defeated since TS, without having to use his RS and judge's gene modification.

You can't, because there hasn't be one.

Sanji's TS training is so poor that Oda decides to gift him an instant PU instead.

The dude really did nothing but hanging out with okamas for 2 years... :milaugh:
yeah basically this.
the 2 faction that are complaining are
- afraid / angry that sanji is taking the spotlight along a break week
- stupid because they think sanji is strong enough to stand side-by-side as the wing without any training.
 
#37
What will Sanji next power up be :quest:
:crazwhat:
Rankyaku, I hope. Sanji's the guy who kicks and ONLY kicks. I can't understand why he still hasn't learned that skill.

Next power up should involve AP boost so that makes sense.
I agree. Rankyakus + DJ, I hope. Sanji lacks ranged attacks. His legs are used for movement on the ground and in the air, attacks, blocks... if he could fly and spam powerful rankyakus, he'd be dangerous. Jimbe destroyed Who's Who, but his rankyakus (or shigans?) were strong enough to bypass Jimbe's COA. If only Sanji could spam those...
 
#39
Agreed, however Sanji already nerfs himself from the below
  • Not using his hands to fight
  • Not hitting women
  • Not training
True. Besides, part of his training was dedicated to becoming a better cook by learning recipes to make EVERYONE stronger. So Sanji is also partially responsible for the growth of the SHs.
 
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