Character Discussion Sanji's opponents

[soheilhazrat]

Post automatically merged: Jul 16, 2022

yeah kaku is goofy too not as goofy as jabra of course and kaido is not goofy at all he's always serious most of the time unlike jabra who was crying about his ugly ass okama looking girlfriend and participating in that ''yoi yoi'' guy's jokes

Kaku literally had more gag scenes than Jabura but aight lol

 

[Peroroncino]

Kaku literally had more gag scenes than Jabura but aight lol

the pasta machine and what else? Jabra laughing at him? That's jabra's gag though

 

[Desolate Smaug]

Pretty good fights of you ask me. Not some stale constipation staring contest like some other dude.

 

[BleakAsh]

Pretty good fights of you ask me. Not some stale constipation staring contest like some other dude.

WHAT?! 😂😂😂😂

STALE CONSTIPATION STARE DOWN HE SAID LMAO

 

[Julius]

Like Zoro didn't get goofy opponents as well

Kaido also had his "goofy side", just like King and Queen

Its called having a personality, i know that when you look at Zoro's standards thats a rare thing to see, but it exists. Not surprisingly King got offscreened so much, he has nothing to show

Sanji is the most complete character because he fits on everything and everywhere, so his opponents follow the same rule

Also, complaining about goofyness? In One Piece? Seriously? I don't see the point

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Sure he had some gags....but they didnt envelop his character. He was less goofier than Kaku.

I'm not saying Jabra didn't have a goofy side; I'm saying he wasn't goofier than Kaku.

Regarding Kuroobi, so now it depends on strength? You've only talked about opponents and seriousness, and Kuroobi fits both.

You are judging Kaku based on his DF, he was among the smartest of them all, his Giraffe DF is what made him look goofy as he had to somehow make use of the DF, besides why are you comparing Kaku and Jabra ? I am not talking about all the goofy characters, I am talking about Sanji's opponents ( and if you want to turn blind eye you can but Jabra was clearly stupid and not comparable to Kaku "not talking about strength" )
regarding Kuroobi and strength, no you can say here is the serious guy Sanji fought but it just that he was not a competition, he fought Mr 3 too... but as I said they were not competition and he didn't fight hard against them and it was easy win... all other characters have fought goofy characters too but they weren't competition so am not bringing that up

 

[Doggo]

Wait...wait...WAIT....
Goofy characters?
IN ONE PIECE?
You mean to tell me that unless every character isn't a murder hobo or emo like in Bleach, they are trash?

I see I see....
Damn One Piece and its goofy characters.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Queen was goofy and reckless but him being goofy wasn't a determining factor of the fight just like any other of his fights ... ig Jabura was trying hard too be a "hunter" and that's about it yea was bit idiotic but again like you make it seem like, they didn't loose because they were goofy .. and the encounters you mention that you claim he lost are basically what you said mere "encounter" where either sanji is at disadvantage not knowing Doffy's ability is or is already busted initially like vergo and Gin,to me sanji would have won against Vergo no matter how it ended regardless of his nerf and in gin's case sanji already had busted ribs and it took Gin ramming him 10 more time with his iron club for Sanji to hit his limit

Which means the encounters were either at sanji's ignorance of his opponent's DF abilities or just busted initially and weren't proper altercations altogether.

So the way you're painting sanji's altercations seems disingenuous basically from the gist i get "Sanji only wons against goofy characters and not the one's that are serious" so the point of your post seems to be the following "Sanji wins becuz his opponent are goofy and not serious like the one's he 'lost' to".. without mentioning the handicaps he had or his ignorance towards doffy's abilities and you are also assuming obviously incorrectly that its due to their goofiness that sanji wins against them.

so there is alot of misinterpretation and false reasoning here.

I am saying "why" is he constantly getting goofy and stupid characters as opponents, no matter how stupid they are of course they did their best against Sanji, I am just asking why is Oda making Sanji face characters like that and lose to these other type of characters...or maybe you can ignore the losing part (even though it happened) and answer the other part

Post automatically merged: Jul 16, 2022

Like Zoro didn't get goofy opponents as well

Kaido also had his "goofy side", just like King and Queen

Its called having a personality, i know that when you look at Zoro's standards thats a rare thing to see, but it exists. Not surprisingly King got offscreened so much, he has nothing to show

Sanji is the most complete character because he fits on everything and everywhere, so his opponents follow the same rule

Also, complaining about goofyness? In One Piece? Seriously? I don't see the point

Zoro did get, but why are you talking about Zoro ? ... Sanji is the only one who is constantly getting opponents like that, other characters sometimes did but Sanji's opponents are mostly like that

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

You are judging Kaku based on his DF, he was among the smartest of them all, his Giraffe DF is what made him look goofy as he had to somehow make use of the DF, besides why are you comparing Kaku and Jabra ? I am not talking about all the goofy characters, I am talking about Sanji's opponents ( and if you want to turn blind eye you can but Jabra was clearly stupid and not comparable to Kaku "not talking about strength" )
regarding Kuroobi and strength, no you can say here is the serious guy Sanji fought but it just that he was not a competition, he fought Mr 3 too... but as I said they were not competition and he didn't fight hard against them and it was easy win... all other characters have fought goofy characters too but they weren't competition so am not bringing that up

I'm judging Kaku based on the character.

—First plot point of his is comparing him to Usopp because he has a weird, square nose.

—Literally has TWO gags of his own: he speaks like an old-fashioned grandpa in spite of being 23, and his weird squarish shapes remain in hybrid.

—"Damn, I wanted to go hybrid but went full beast instead!".

—"Now I'm the perfect cube, you can't get a shot in".

—"Shut up! Giraffes are cool!".

—"You fool, don't underestimate the immense power of giraffes!".

—"Uh-oh! I pulled my neck in so far that my legs grew! Like a pasta machine: you put in dough and noodles come out. Pasta machine!".

—"Behold my devastating new technique!" (Proceeds to do something he already did).

Kaku was always portrayed as a gag character as a whole. Of course he had serious moments, just like Jabra; but it's totally dishonest to say it's just his fruit that is goofy. It's his personality what makes him as goofy as he is, which is a lot.

Since Sanji beat Kuroobi as a main fight, your idea that he loses to serious opponents is debunked; I don't really care that you say he wasn't a competition just because as if that was a factor I should consider in an issue about clashing of personalities. Kuroobi as a villain is no different from Queen in terms of narrative role as one of the main villain's top subordinates.

 

[Zaretball]

Because Oda loves gags. There are several situations where gags would not appear if it was another manga. G5, drunk mode and gifters are examples.

 

[Doggo]

I'm really trying to understand why the fuck are people trying to justify themselves for an extremely obvious Sanji hating thread.

 

[BleakAsh]

I am saying "why" is he constantly getting goofy and stupid characters as opponents, no matter how stupid they are of course they did their best against Sanji, I am just asking why is Oda making Sanji face characters like that and lose to these other type of characters...or maybe you can ignore the losing part (even though it happened) and answer the other part

you attribute sanji winning with them goofs in comparison to him loosing to "serious" opponents.

I'm just telling you that you're being disingenuous and being goofy doesn't determine the ability of the fighter or the outcome of the fight.. you don't even mention sanji's handicap in those "serious" fights where he's at a disadvantage from the get go.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

You are judging Kaku based on his DF, he was among the smartest of them all, his Giraffe DF is what made him look goofy as he had to somehow make use of the DF, besides why are you comparing Kaku and Jabra ? I am not talking about all the goofy characters, I am talking about Sanji's opponents ( and if you want to turn blind eye you can but Jabra was clearly stupid and not comparable to Kaku "not talking about strength" )
regarding Kuroobi and strength, no you can say here is the serious guy Sanji fought but it just that he was not a competition, he fought Mr 3 too... but as I said they were not competition and he didn't fight hard against them and it was easy win... all other characters have fought goofy characters too but they weren't competition so am not bringing that up

Dude Kaku couldn’t control his transformations and was saying shit like:
“My body’s weird it’s like a great big pasta machine.”
Then poses and says “Pasta Machine!” As a technique.

Like come the dudes fight was full of gags that the “gag” character was laughing at him

 

[Chrono]

You are judging Kaku based on his DF, he was among the smartest of them all, his Giraffe DF is what made him look goofy as he had to somehow make use of the DF, besides why are you comparing Kaku and Jabra ? I am not talking about all the goofy characters, I am talking about Sanji's opponents ( and if you want to turn blind eye you can but Jabra was clearly stupid and not comparable to Kaku "not talking about strength" )
regarding Kuroobi and strength, no you can say here is the serious guy Sanji fought but it just that he was not a competition, he fought Mr 3 too... but as I said they were not competition and he didn't fight hard against them and it was easy win... all other characters have fought goofy characters too but they weren't competition so am not bringing that up

What has intelligence got to do with goofyness ? Queen is probably top 5 smartest people in the verse (not talking about incompetence)....and hes goofy af.

Being smart /=/ Not being goofy. Kaku was goofy and ridiculous af.

All of Luffy's main opponents bar Croc and Lucci were goofy as well.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

I'm judging Kaku based on the character.

—First plot point of his is comparing him to Usopp because he has a weird, square nose.

—Literally has TWO gags of his own: he speaks like an old-fashioned grandpa in spite of being 23, and his weird squarish shapes remain in hybrid.

—"Damn, I wanted to go hybrid but went full beast instead!".

—"Now I'm the perfect cube, you can't get a shot in".

—"Shut up! Giraffes are cool!".

—"You fool, don't underestimate the immense power of giraffes!".

—"Uh-oh! I pulled my neck in so far that my legs grew! Like a pasta machine: you put in dough and noodles come out. Pasta machine!".

—"Behold my devastating new technique!" (Proceeds to do something he already did).

Kaku was always portrayed as a gag character as a whole. Of course he had serious moments, just like Jabra; but it's totally dishonest to say it's just his fruit that is goofy. It's his personality what makes him as goofy as he is, which is a lot.

Since Sanji beat Kuroobi as a main fight, your idea that he loses to serious opponents is debunked; I don't really care that you say he wasn't a competition just because as if that was a factor I should consider in an issue about clashing of personalities. Kuroobi as a villain is no different from Queen in terms of narrative role as one of the main villain's top subordinates.

Dude Kaku couldn’t control his transformations and was saying shit like:
“My body’s weird it’s like a great big pasta machine.”
Then poses and says “Pasta Machine!” As a technique.

Like come the dudes fight was full of gags that the “gag” character was laughing at him

Dude Kaku couldn’t control his transformations and was saying shit like:
“My body’s weird it’s like a great big pasta machine.”
Then poses and says “Pasta Machine!” As a technique.

Like come the dudes fight was full of gags that the “gag” character was laughing at him

OKAY OKAY, Kaku is a goofy character
what does that have to do with anything ???
I am talking about why is Sanji the only one constantly getting goofy opponents, not comparing his opponents with Zoro's
and @Charlotte Horchata okay, Kuroobi a serious opponent, why is he getting all his opponents as goofy besides him

Post automatically merged: Jul 16, 2022

What has intelligence got to do with goofyness ? Queen is probably top 5 smartest people in the verse (not talking about incompetence)....and hes goofy af.

Being smart /=/ Not being goofy. Kaku was goofy and ridiculous af.

All of Luffy's main opponents bar Croc and Lucci were goofy as well.

its not, only few of Luffy's opponents were goofy and he fights all kinds of opponents..... Croc, Lucci -> + Doffy + Cracker + Katakuri + Arlong + Smoker etc

 

[BakiDou]

Wow, Sanji did it again, incredible

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

Sanji fanclub on damage control
Look at your buddies here @Swallalala

 

[Swallalala]

Sanji fanclub on damage control
Look at your buddies here @Swallalala

Have you seen Zorotards damage control when ZKK died?

 

[spawn]

People who say Jabra wasn’t goofy are completely delusional. Just go to his introductory chapters and it’s just back to back to back silly faces. How can you miss this stuff?

 

[Finalbeta]

Why are Sanji's opponents always Stupid/Goofy characters ?
The only time he faced serious characters he lost in that encounter, Gin, Vergo and Doflamingo, the serious characters he faced and lost

I guess GB will probably revolutionize that