General & Others Saturn is going down this arc

#46
I think Foundation of Egghead and bringing Vegapunk to WG was done by Saturn. He probably blackmailed Kuma to join WG as well .
There is much to Kuma and Saturn plot no wonder Bonney in enraged he probably has a role in Jinny’s death .

Imo Saturn is definately going down and I don’t know how Luffy will fight him in this state .
 
#47
I think Foundation of Egghead and bringing Vegapunk to WG was done by Saturn. He probably blackmailed Kuma to join WG as well .
There is much to Kuma and Saturn plot no wonder Bonney in enraged he probably has a role in Jinny’s death .

Imo Saturn is definately going down and I don’t know how Luffy will fight him in this state .
Luffy needs only 32 seconds to get back into Gear 5, which will be right after the flashback.

Nika is defeating Saturn and liberating both Bonney and Kuma.
 
#50
There’s a lot about this that fits well in theory.

Kuma and Bonney get to witness a satisfying defeat of their oppressor.

perhaps Zoro gets to pay Kizaru back for tormenting him 2 years ago.

Saturn biting the bullet would be more shocking to the world than even the defeat of two yonko.

But it just seems too early for someone who’s as big game as Saturn to go down the same day (in universe time) as he was introduced. Especially with all the atrocities he’s committed, I’d expect him to commit a few more in present time before seeing defeat.

Too neat, too early, too easy for the strawhats.

He’s going down this arc, but in the same sense that big mom and Kaido were certain to go down in the last arc, which lasted around 300 chapters.
 
#54
Good, you acknowledge the reality

Nika is 100% defeating Saturn

I hope you acknowledge one day that Mihawk > Shanks
Comeback when Zoro > Luffy

Stop ruining my thread with Mihawk/zoro talks
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There’s a lot about this that fits well in theory.

Kuma and Bonney get to witness a satisfying defeat of their oppressor.

perhaps Zoro gets to pay Kizaru back for tormenting him 2 years ago.

Saturn biting the bullet would be more shocking to the world than even the defeat of two yonko.

But it just seems too early for someone who’s as big game as Saturn to go down the same day (in universe time) as he was introduced. Especially with all the atrocities he’s committed, I’d expect him to commit a few more in present time before seeing defeat.

Too neat, too early, too easy for the strawhats.

He’s going down this arc, but in the same sense that big mom and Kaido were certain to go down in the last arc, which lasted around 300 chapters.
Are you comparing Saturn to BM and Kaido?
Saturn isn't the main guy of WG...he's Imu underling while Yonko are leaders of their own factions.
Also Luffy wasn't top tier the whole saga that's why it took 300 chapters

We have 5 gorosei, 1 going down isn't too early or too easy

Luffy is already yonko level, nobody losing now isn't losing too early anymore
It's the final saga, people should be falling

There's no way Saturn leaves this island undefeated,
Him losing later somewhere else is stupid , it won't be impactful nor good writing

Kaido lost where he was focused, his past was tied to Momo, same with Doffy
Saturn losing in this arc, no villain gets such tied back stories with their victims and not lose the same arc
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Saturn's needed to bring the Seraphim back to their side and to retrieve the Mother Flame. Luffy isn't defeating Saturn for now.
Sure

Oda talks about Nika saving the day, freeing Bonney and Kuma...just for Saturn to not lose
Yeah

Bonney and Kuma will be freed mentally and physically without Saturn being defeated
 
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#55

Saturn's needed to bring the Seraphim back to their side and to retrieve the Mother Flame. Luffy isn't defeating Saturn for now.
New goalpost shift from admiral fandom.

It went.

1. No proof Saturn can fight.
2. Kizaru is stronger than Saturn, after all, Kizaru is his guard.
3. Saturn won't get involved.
4. Bonney stabbed him...he's weak!
5. The ancient robot/Kuma will fight him.
6. Well Luffy will lose. They need the Seraphim/MF.

And they were wrong every single time up to point 4. They will be wrong again.
 
#56
Are you comparing Saturn to BM and Kaido?
Saturn isn't the main guy of WG...he's Imu underling while Yonko are leaders of their own factions.
Also Luffy wasn't top tier the whole saga that's why it took 300 chapters

We have 5 gorosei, 1 going down isn't too early or too easy
I think it could go either way. It would be a very neat wrap-up to Egghead, not disputing that. It's hard to compare Saturn vs the Yonko because so little is known about him. And that's the thing, he's a new threat of an entirely different nature from any before. Crocodile was sort of similar relatively, and it took a long campaign to beat him. Same for CP9. Sort of the same for BM.

If you told me he goes down in a week in-universe time, I'd buy it a lot easier than him going down in hours.

I don't think Luffy winning against him just because he's a yonko is given. The amount of confidence Saturn has demonstrated both in god valley and here is absurd. He doesn't seem to be bothered even by half a dozen potential top tier enemies. This is a guy who's seen it all, and might be centuries old... I don't know if it's hax, some incredibly busted DF, incredible strength, or some combination of everything, but he's definitely unlike any other villain so far.
 
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#57
New goalpost shift from admiral fandom.

It went.

1. No proof Saturn can fight.
2. Kizaru is stronger than Saturn, after all, Kizaru is his guard.
3. Saturn won't get involved.
4. Bonney stabbed him...he's weak!
5. The ancient robot/Kuma will fight him.
6. Well Luffy will lose. They need the Seraphim/MF.

And they were wrong every single time up to point 4. They will be wrong again.
I vouch only for the Gorosei. I can't care less about the Admiral Agenda. Saturn is being saved for the Final Arc like the rest of his peers and Imu.
 
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