Speculations Saturn may be the perfect counter to Nika

[Brush D. Teeth]

As we all know, Nika's main problem is stamina. He usually doesn't last very long and becomes useless after his transformation:

his stats seem to be crap but because of his regen hax Saturn can literally be the perfect counter to Luffy and outlast his Gear 5 time-frame.

What do you guys think?

 

[nik87]

Even Lucci outlasted Nika so Saturn is safe too.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Even Lucci outlasted Nika so Saturn is safe too.

Yes but Lucci is a God of Endurance, outlasted KoH Santoryu Zoro and Nika in the same arc.
I mean, against Nika he passed out but he got eventually up, but point stands!

 

[Herrera95]

Saturn the useless?

 

[BigAmmi]

No because regen will have a limit, like marco

and even more important than that, if oda let's his MC use his brain, he can do whatever he want in a battle

example

in the ocean

byebye saturn

 

[BlackLegFring]

Nika can toss him into the ocean, so there’s that.

Immortality to survive any damage is good in terms of defense, but if you can’t take out your opponent it doesn’t change much.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Pica will outlast Nika and finish Luffy off when he is in sitting duck state.

 

[Durableguy]

Shhh you can't imply luffy will fight Saturn here.

That upsets the agenda

 

[trav]

He usually doesn't last very long

We only saw Nika-mode a handful of times and every new gear had this problem at the start.
Any stamina issue Luffy ever faced was plot convenience.
It magically disappears when Luffy is finally allowed to beat people.

Stamina is the chakra of OP. Its meaningless.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

We only saw Nika-mode a handful of times and every new gear had this problem at the start.
Any stamina issue Luffy ever faced was plot convenience.
It magically disappears when Luffy is finally allowed to beat people.

Stamina is the chakra of OP. Its meaningless.

I agree, but now he may still have the side effect. Once he gets a new form it will pass lol.
Haki is also meaningless:
-it serms no-one can predict stuff with CoO;
-hakiless Straw Hats beating armament haki veterans;
-CoC is basically only shown against other CoC users.

 

[SkySanji]

Saturn being immortal makes him a perfect counter to practically every character in the verse, not just Luffy.

 

[nik87]

Saturn being immortal makes him a perfect counter to practically every character in the verse, not just Luffy.

Who said he is immortal, Sky-chin?

 

[Mathias]

Goofy is a Zoan now. He should have higher stamina too. But plot will nerf him sometimes

 

[SkySanji]

Who said he is immortal, Sky-chin?

The manga Nikky, he hasn't aged in like 40 years, Bonney can't change his age, he regenerates limbs and a giant hole in his chest like it's nothing, all very obvious signs of immortality.

 

[nik87]

The manga Nikky, he hasn't aged in like 40 years, Bonney can't change his age, he regenerates limbs and a giant hole in his chest like it's nothing, all very obvious signs of immortality.

None of it is immortality, Sky-chin...
You are confusing immortality with eternal youth just because the name of the operation is immortality operation.
Perform the same operation on Marco and he will behave the same. Not aging and regenerating everything.

 

[SkySanji]

None of it is immortality, Sky-chin...
You are confusing immortality with eternal youth just because the name of the operation is immortality operation.
Perform the same operation on Marco and he will behave the same. Not aging and regenerating everything.

Ignoring the fact that eternal youth is literally immortality, Marco consumes vast amounts of stamina to regenerate and wasn't even able to regenerate some things such as Garp punching him, whereas Saturn has shown absolutely zero tiredness and looks completely fresh and has yet to display any limitations on what he can and cannot regenerate, so the two aren't comparable.

 

[trav]

eternal youth is literally immortality

Its not.
Eternal youth means functional immortality at best. You would still be able to die of physical trauma.

 

[SkySanji]

Its not.
Eternal youth means functional immortality at best. You would still be able to die of physical trauma.

Yes it is

There are various kinds of immortality and true absolute immortality doesn't even exist in fiction.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Its not.
Eternal youth means functional immortality at best. You would still be able to die of physical trauma.

Immortality doesn't mean invincibility.

 

[Hiragaro]

Nika can toss him into the ocean, so there’s that.

Dude, nobody is ever gonna do that shit in OP, unless the character who gets thrown has a counter to that, like flying or whatever.
If characters would do that, most fights would end in seconds lol