Questions & Mysteries Scopper Gaban

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Garp the Fist

Garp the Fist

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Kuro Ashi said:
Like i said, the difference could be that Scopper would be someone who maybe opposes this profecy thing and is doubtful that "the right one" will come.
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But that wouldn’t make much sense given we see him howling with laughter at the final island like all the rest of the Roger Pirates. And then we saw Gaban after Laugh Tale acting like the rest of the crew, he’s clearly bought into everything they discovered there. If Gaban was going to play some doubting role, he could at least be thrown in having a different reaction to the others, even if it’s only in the background.

Like how we know that something about the trip to Laugh Tale really upset Shanks.

There’s nothing in what we’ve seen of the Roger trip to Laugh Take to suggest that there’s any great plan for Gaban or that he’s any different to any other Roger Pirate in believing in what they read at Laugh Tale
Kuro Ashi said:
For example Scopper was the one objecting to Oden joining them and leading the "anti Oden" camp until Oden earned his trust and friendship.

All Roger Pirates have approved of Luffy almost from the moment they met him, we have no opposite examples to that in the story.

It's basically not that much different from your proposal of making him someone who chose Blackbeard as "the one" instead of Luffy.

And for the purpose of seeing with his own eyes who makes it there and is supposed to fulfil this profecy, he'd have reason to settle in a place where he'd be sure to meet any "contenders" who have almost made it.
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Well, the Blackbeard idea is that Gaban is something completely different and becomes a genuine villain in the end. That would be a unique use of the character compared to the other Roger Pirates (Buggy being comedic relief for ages now).

But this idea of Gaban being some sort of last presence at the end that will end up believing in Luffy anyway, it’s pointless. He’ll have beaten Kaido, proved himself to Shanks, proved himself to Rayleigh, gathered the Poneglyphs- why should Scopper Gaban suddenly feel himself so self-important as to be the last decider on who becomes Pirate King? Luffy will have the four Road Poneglyphs and the means to translate them, in the appointed time, if Gaban is standing in his way without being a real villain he’ll just look like an arrogant idiot.
 
Kuro Ashi

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#85
Garp the Fist said:
But that wouldn’t make much sense given we see him howling with laughter at the final island like all the rest of the Roger Pirates. And then we saw Gaban after Laugh Tale acting like the rest of the crew, he’s clearly bought into everything they discovered there. If Gaban was going to play some doubting role, he could at least be thrown in having a different reaction to the others, even if it’s only in the background.

Like how we know that something about the trip to Laugh Tale really upset Shanks.

There’s nothing in what we’ve seen of the Roger trip to Laugh Take to suggest that there’s any great plan for Gaban or that he’s any different to any other Roger Pirate in believing in what they read at Laugh Tale


Well, the Blackbeard idea is that Gaban is something completely different and becomes a genuine villain in the end. That would be a unique use of the character compared to the other Roger Pirates (Buggy being comedic relief for ages now).

But this idea of Gaban being some sort of last presence at the end that will end up believing in Luffy anyway, it’s pointless. He’ll have beaten Kaido, proved himself to Shanks, proved himself to Rayleigh, gathered the Poneglyphs- why should Scopper Gaban suddenly feel himself so self-important as to be the last decider on who becomes Pirate King? Luffy will have the four Road Poneglyphs and the means to translate them, in the appointed time, if Gaban is standing in his way without being a real villain he’ll just look like an arrogant idiot.
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Do you think this vilanous side should have been highlighted in some manner, as you argue him being against the profecy should have been hinted at as well ?

Or can you think of anything that already hinted at that in some even minor way ?
 
Garp the Fist

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Kuro Ashi said:
Do you think this vilanous side should have been highlighted in some manner, as you argue him being against the profecy should have been hinted at as well ?

Or can you think of anything that already hinted at that in some even minor way ?
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Sadly the villainous thing isn’t going to happen either, it’s just my headcanon wishful thinking as something really interesting to do with the character.

Realistically I don‘t expect Gaban to do anything overly important. At the most I can see in the final war Ray and the old Roger Pirates making a shock appearance and making a load of Marines shit themselves
 
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