Questions & Mysteries Scopper Gaban

[Kuro Ashi]

I don't think Oda would've given him that 'copper' name along with Roger and Rayleigh's gold and silver only to totally throw him out of the story. I think there's a 70% chance that he's important and shows up or at least is briefly explored through some future plot.

My guess would actually be Lodestar. Because you can put it like this :

Last Island before Grand Line and the last island of the East Blue was Loguetown, the last place Roger visited alive, where he was killed, and where Luffy mirrored Roger's laugh while thinking he was about to die.

Last Island before New World and where all the routes of Paradise lead to was Sabaody. There the SH's met Rayleigh, and Rayleigh saw Roger in Luffy.

Last Island before Raftel, the last island that you can reach with a log pose, and where all the routes of the New World lead to is Lodestar.

I think there is where the SH's will meet Gaban, and he will be the last Roger Pirate to acknowledge him as the one Roger said will eventually come. Gaban will also probably meet Blackbeard and make that judgement after seeing both of them.

 

[hedera__helix]

He is never going to be important.

People need to understand that Oda has never given any sort of special portrayal to the 3rd highest of a crew and never will.

He pays dust to Queen, Smoothie, Burgess, Lucky Roo, etc. There's a reason none of them have CoC or strong characters hyping them up.

 

[Lhulu]

And ? Why wouldn't he hype PK crew ? Ray got hyped when Oden mentioned his title Dark King we got that moment of partners between them and so on .

We have +1000 chapters and we don't have any shits about Scopper gaban or any hype while Rayleigh got hyped prets and we are near Eos time without any hype around him either by characters or when they mention the PK crew .

That's a headcanon , but either way we had a lot of times where scopper should get mentioned but he didn't even in the FB he didn't show shit and got sidelined even Ray got his moment thete while scopper didn't have anything beside arguing with oden

Your already answeared yourself mate. Rayleigh had amount of hype not only because he's the Right Hand of PK, he was an important character to the narrative too. He saved the crew in Sabaody and trained Luffy during TS, that's why Oda give him a lot of hype.

Gaban is just a member of PK crew, as i said Oda just gave him a different portrayal alongside with Ray because he wants to make one more parallel with Luffy, who had 2 "important man". He doesn't need hype or something like that, unless he get some importance for future arc(which i doubt).
The Roger's flashback it's just my headcanon, i mean, if Gaban is going to get some panel time will be there. But as i said before, Oda doesn't need to do that, Scooper is irrelevant for the story. And about Oden's flashback, even Rayleigh doesn't had a proper fight, why would Gaban, a character who no one cares, get this?

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Can't wait for Gaban to show up in Laugh Tale.

and sanji vs king

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Queen is given special portrayal through out the whole arc alongside King and they are made to appear as bullies towards poor Jack with how insignificant he is in comparison.

Queen get's the second highest revealed bounty of any YC, higher than Katakuri, and Marco draws specific attention to the significance of King and Queen having over 1 bilion bounties for their strength as he is fighting them, and how formidable they are because of that.

Zoro weighs his options and can't pick between the routes guarded by either King or Queen to get to the roof as he judges them both as difficult opponents to get by.


In no world was Queen not given special treatment whem compared to other YC. Based on Marco's words Smoothie is trash with her < 1 bil bounty in comparison, and her and Cracker are likely on Jack's level and would get absolutely bullied by King or Queen.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Queen is given special portrayal through out the whole arc alongside King and they are made to appear as bullies towards poor Jack with how insignificant he is in comparison.

Queen get's the second highest revealed bounty of any YC, higher than Katakuri, and Marco draws specific attention to the significance of King and Queen having over 1 bilion bounties for their strength as he is fighting them, and how formidable they are because of that.

Zoro weighs his options and can't pick between the routes guarded by either King or Queen to get to the roof as he judges them both as difficult opponents to get by.


In no world was Queen not given special treatment whem compared to other YC. Based on Marco's words Smoothie is trash with her < 1 bil bounty in comparison, and her and Cracker are likely on Jack's level and would get absolutely bullied by King or Queen.

king defeated big mom and sanji

 

[Kuro Ashi]

As if they will focus on Gaban on the last island when the misteries of the Void Century, Joy Boy et simila are gonna be revealed
Like who the hell would care about Gaban ?

Gaban will be the vehicle towards us getting the flashback of the Roger pirates learning those same things, and what they thought of them in that moment as well as going forward.

Because all of that was censored, naturally since we can't see them talking about those things. We only got the immediate reaction that doesn't give away anything they have learned.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Rayleigh had amount of hype not only because he's the Right Hand of PK, he was an important character to the narrative too. He saved the crew in Sabaody and trained Luffy

So scopper is fodder while Ray and Roger are the ones who carried that crew because in that PK crew only Roger and Ray got hyped and others are sidelined .

Gaban is just a member of PK crew, as i said Oda just gave him a different portrayal alongside with Ray because he wants to make one more parallel with Luffy, who had 2 "important man". He doesn't need hype or something like that, unless he get some importance for future arc(which i doubt).

That importance got destroyed when one calls Roger captain and the other Roger also when there is nothing about him if he is one of the best men beside Ray he should have got his moment to show off the PK crew radiance but for +1000 chapters only Ray and roger are speaking nothing about scopper beside that argument of standing together that some fans used for law and kid and luffy and got destroyed by Roof top feats .

doesn't need hype or something like that, unless he get some importance for future arc(which i doubt).
The Roger's flashback it's just my headcanon, i mean, if Gaban is going to get some panel time will be there. But as i said before, Oda doesn't need to do that, Scooper is irrelevant for the story. And about Oden's flashback, even Rayleigh doesn't had a proper fight, why would Gaban, a character who no one cares, get this?

Nah i'm calling ppl who hype scopper while he showed nothing and even Oden has better portrayal than him with being a CoC user and getting listed with Yonko level that's why i made this thread

 

[Cross_Marian]

Gaban was the most important member beneath Rayleigh but importance doesn’t mean that he’s on the same level as Rayleigh and Roger.
We can only guess but I think it’s
Roger >= Rayleigh
Gaban

Roger and Rayleigh play in another league but Gaban is still the third strongest member.
It will be the same with Luffy and Zoro. They are the leading figures of the next generation and both are conquerors and aim for the top.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

king defeated big mom and sanji

Queen captured Big Mom

King just pushed a ship which is a Trebol level feat

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Queen captured Big Mom

King just pushed a ship which is a Trebol level feat

queen was near to dead like a fodder

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Queen is given special portrayal through out the whole arc alongside King and they are made to appear as bullies towards poor Jack with how insignificant he is in comparison.

Queen get's the second highest revealed bounty of any YC, higher than Katakuri, and Marco draws specific attention to the significance of King and Queen having over 1 bilion bounties for their strength as he is fighting them, and how formidable they are because of that.

Zoro weighs his options and can't pick between the routes guarded by either King or Queen to get to the roof as he judges them both as difficult opponents to get by.


In no world was Queen not given special treatment whem compared to other YC. Based on Marco's words Smoothie is trash with her < 1 bil bounty in comparison, and her and Cracker are likely on Jack's level and would get absolutely bullied by King or Queen.

And how is that relevant to Scopper who had a Lot of chances to get mentioned and hyped but nothing happened or got shown lmao Queen is a antagonist that's why he got hyped with King and jack unless scopper got shown as an antagonist which won't then he is irrelevant for the grand schemes that are waiting for SHs

 

[Kuro Ashi]

And how is that relevant to Scopper who had a Lot of chances to get mentioned and hyped but nothing happened or got shown lmao Queen is a antagonist that's why he got hyped with King and jack unless scopper got shown as an antagonist which won't then he is irrelevant for the grand schemes that are waiting for SHs

Its about the post arguing that it's a rule that the "3rd spot get's no hype".


Scopper got clearly hyped and separated from the rest of the crew alongside Rayleigh

or shown giving order to the crew and leading them in combat alongside Rayleigh

We all know what this means for his place in the crew.

You're not going to get characters randomly bringing up Gaban, the way no character randomly brought up Ray in the story until he made his appearance, and same was the case with Oden until his story took central stage for the unfolding plot.


If people back in East Blue would have been talking about Roger and Ray but not Gaban i'd get it, but that was never a thing, and the fact that the Right Hand Man of the Pirate King was not hyped once, by a single person before Sabaody, makes the demand for that to have happened with Scopper unecessary.

 

[Lhulu]

So scopper is fodder while Ray and Roger are the ones who carried that crew because in that PK crew only Roger and Ray got hyped and others are sidelined .

That importance got destroyed when one calls Roger captain and the other Roger also when there is nothing about him if he is one of the best men beside Ray he should have got his moment to show off the PK crew radiance but for +1000 chapters only Ray and roger are speaking nothing about scopper beside that argument of standing together that some fans used for law and kid and luffy and got destroyed by Roof top feats .


Nah i'm calling ppl who hype scopper while he showed nothing and even Oden has better portrayal than him with being a CoC user and getting listed with Yonko level that's why i made this thread

Ah, sorry, i thought you want to discuss about his character portrayal, but everything is about power-scalling here. So let's go:
Just look at Oden x Gaban thread, 80% thinks Oden is stronger(me included).
Gaban was stronger than any YC2, it's that. Oda won't show much of him because he doesn't have time to waste with someone who don't matters for the story.

 

[hedera__helix]

Second in commands:
Katakuri having CoC and being called undefeatable, Beckman being called Shanks' partner, Rayleigh having CoC and being called the Dark King, Shiryu being hyped to the level of Magellan who no diffed pre-TS Blackbeard and his crew, Sabo having aCoA, etc.

Third in commands:
Smoothie being a joke who can't get past a door (remind you of someone?), Queen pissing his pants at the sight of Zoro, Burgess being treated as a joke by Sabo, etc.

Queen bullying Jack doesn't change the fact that Oda clowns third in commands.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Using Queens exagerated reactions for power scaling is a new low Especially when you have Zoro's own words to counter that, after that moment, with him looking and both King and Queen and being unable to pick an easier route between the two to reach the roof.

Smoothie is shit. Oda probably made Smoothie so shit and portrayed Katakuri as invincible to contrast with him having King and Queen portrayed alongside each other and way stronger than Jack.

Roo was listed as someone who has made a name for himself alongside Beckman by the navy when they were talking about the Yonko, and Shanks is the only one who has had his top men singled out in that manner. Roo is probably stronger than King and Katakuri.

Scopper get's portrayal alongside Rayleigh as the Pirate Kings men who are confident in their ability to defeat Oden.

 

[hedera__helix]

Zoro also calls Queen a waste of time, him saying neither route will be that easy is not a big deal considering he didn't even want to waste effort on Apoo or gifters to save his strength for Kaido.

Beckman gets his own individual hype and gets called Shanks's partner, Lucky Roo doesn't.

Rayleigh gets called Dark King, people call him a legend, he has CoC, etc. Gaban has none of that and never will.

No third-in-command has ever gotten special treatment and Gaban isn't an exception.

 

[Finalbeta]

queen was near to dead like a fodder

It was pretty linear to me.

A yonko low diffing a YC2 looks basic enough. I think his problems commenced when she regained her full conscious awareness.

Scopper was likely YC2 himself, I guess likely consistently more potent than Queen for obvious reasons though.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Imagine we see the BB Pirates reaching Lodestar first and there's only one old man sitting there.

We see some BB pirates like Burgess and Avalo wanting to go mess with him but BB recognizez him and tells them all to stay back as that's not the kind of man they can take lightly.

Blackbeard talks with him and the old man shows him no respect, calling him the brat from WB's ship but BB doesn't try to attack him. Blackbeard asks him if he's not going to try to stop him to get the information he came for and the old man tells him he doesn't have to, he's not the one Roger is waiting for.

BB get's pissed but then calms himself. He tells his men that they will get what they have came for, and then rush to claim their prize.

When the SH's get there later, we learn that the old man is Gaban

 

[hedera__helix]

Imagine we see the BB Pirates reaching Lodestar first and there's only one old man sitting there.

We see some BB pirates like Burgess and Avalo wanting to go mess with him but BB recognizez him and tells them all to stay back as that's not the kind of man they can take lightly.

Blackbeard talks with him and the old man shows him no respect, calling him the brat from WB's ship but BB doesn't try to attack him. Blackbeard asks him if he's not going to try to stop him to get the information he came for and the old man tells him he doesn't have to, he's not the one Roger is waiting for.

BB get's pissed but then calms himself. He tells his men that they will get what they have came for, and then rush to claim their prize.

When the SH's get there later, we learn that the old man is Gaban

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