[FNZ] Role Madness [Season 2] Round 12 - Genshin Impact

Is Flower always scum?

  • A) Yes

    Votes: 22 66.7%
  • B) Option A

    Votes: 11 33.3%

  • Total voters
    33
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Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
hmm, what are the possibilities of a redirection
It's always a possibility, but I was busdriven by Night Raid apparently too, which means someone else would have been targeted for a redirect, and then it fell to me. And at this point, we have to assume far too much to explain it away.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
You could iso Night Raid and tell us what u think of him, iirc he claimed this is his first(?) game. He kinda just claimed out of the blue back then



Player Night Raid claimed Miller and his chara a while ago
I could, but I'd rather not ISO anyone while I still have half the thread to read. I read a fair chunk of Day 1, so I saw some of Night Raid's postings.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
I mean, why does his character make him scummy?
Automatically, a Miller claim should indicate that his character conceivably could be scum in this game, otherwise why else would he investigate the same as scum would? For example, in a One Piece game, where the Strawhat Pirates are scum, if Nico Robin is Town-Aligned, she would make sense as a Miller, because she's also a Strawhat Pirate. There would just be other flavour reasons for her not being Aligned with them in that game, such as the flavour of the game taking place before Nico Robin joined the Straw Hats.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Additionally, a Busdriver role tends to lean towards scum, than town. As scum, it allows them to manipulate the Night Phase while covering themselves. As Town, it can potentially save a likely target from a kill, but also inadvertently manipulate investigative roles and so on.
 
Automatically, a Miller claim should indicate that his character conceivably could be scum in this game, otherwise why else would he investigate the same as scum would? For example, in a One Piece game, where the Strawhat Pirates are scum, if Nico Robin is Town-Aligned, she would make sense as a Miller, because she's also a Strawhat Pirate. There would just be other flavour reasons for her not being Aligned with them in that game, such as the flavour of the game taking place before Nico Robin joined the Straw Hats.
I do know what a miller is, but this is very enlightening too, thank you.
I just didn't realize why him claiming a knight (?) Was making him scum

Additionally, a Busdriver role tends to lean towards scum, than town. As scum, it allows them to manipulate the Night Phase while covering themselves. As Town, it can potentially save a likely target from a kill, but also inadvertently manipulate investigative roles and so on.
Lol for me I always thought it town, cause I mainly played tos where it's a town role lol (transporter)
 
Wris - [Venti] - Lynched D2
-allows others to use additional action
-graverobber?
-can dodge a kill, one shot

Hayumi - [Diluc] - Killed N4
-miller
-immune to rolecrushes/defuffs/votedraining/ability destructions
-kill with condition+upgraded superkill 1 shot
-burn the 1st vote caster
Tobi - [Beidou] - Killed N2
-immune to rolecrushes/roleblocks
-noble
-protection+kill?
-can roleblock 2 times

Rej - [Jean] - Killed D3
-fake ic
-immune to roleblcok
-immune to other knights of favonius
-protection and heal
-rolecrush for a cycle
-can dodge 2 kills
RippedCal/ALI! - [Scaramouche] - Killed N4
-bulletproof+first action fails on him
-godfather+noble(+3)
-strongman? bypasses protection and commute but not roleblocks
-forwards 3 players and they have to use abilities on each other, or else vote silenced
-1 shot unlynchable
-target a player during the day and control the role for a cycle

Natalija - [Andrius] - Killed N4
-can freeze a target, the target dies after 1 cycle if not healed
~UwU~ -
[Xiao] - Lynched D1
-innocent in alignment check
-Super/Bulletproof
-superkill
-rolecrush+modifier
-regular kill
-strongman

Juliet/Xlaw[Lumine]-Killed Day 2
Rayleigh-Sama/Nick[???]-Killed N2
Grammaton[???]-Killed N1


from the list ekko made(i hope i havent missed any):

ConquistadoR[???]
-refill x shot
-immune to frame
-watcher?
Zem/Melontonin[Paimon?]
-can send message
Banchi/T-Pein™[???]
-cult immune
-cult investigator
Dr_Professor83[???]
-commuter
TheAncientCenturion[???]
-flavor cop?
Destroya[???]
Ekkologix[???]

-vig?
Lord Melkor[Amber?]
-tracker?
-can avoid all actions?
Light D Lamperouge/Underworld Broker[???]
-vig?
MistyCatGoddess[Chongyun?]
-protection
Fruitji/DynaMight[Ningguang?]
-jailor
Night Raid[Kaeya?]
-miller
-watcher
-busdriver
Dragomir/Ratchet[???]
-roleblock
QueenEmilia[???]
-gets messages from host

with all those immunity to rolecrush type abilities, makes me think there are quite some roles of that type out there. and hayumi turning out to be miller and town doesnt look that good on night raid tbh, also then there is the watcher, which both night and conq share, and overall night has 2 counter claims which is not a good look tbh

other than that melkor's weak tracker claim along with the ability to avoid all action seems scummy, if we look at it from that angle. why would town need such ability instead of regular protection or something.

tac's flavor cop also doesnt make much sense in this setup, which makes me think its just rolecop. aside from that do we know why xlaw/juliet's role didnt showed up?

destroya is the only one we dont know nothing about, mel comes in second aside form the flavor and that they can send message(dunno how that helps clear them). also i am interested in ratchet, after all drago was one of my sus.
 
about dealing with cult, the ones voting on juliet/xlaw are nick>ekko>tpein>prof in that order, idk when @Destroya told to shoot xlaw, is it before the wagon picked up or after, but i think its safe to say they were not culted d1 for now. as for the possible candidates that i doubt cult would pick d1 are, melkor(due to being one of the leading wagon, almost getting lynched), conq(for being sus most of d1), emi(for being kinda clueless and inactive d1), night(for being new and miller claim), banchi/tpein(banchi was kinda lost tbh, i doubt juliet would pick them) and fuji(for another sus read d1) and me/zoro(for being inactive)

that leaves with drago/ratchet, misty, broker, tac, zem/melon. i think these 5 should be the d1 cult target, but i could see juliet picking one of the inactives in hope of a powerful substitution though thats kinda far fetched, but the main problem is d4 conversion, which we have to do some heavy tinfoiling and reading to come up with, so unless we get the d1 convert first, it would be pretty damn hard to get them. but all thats assuming cult started as 1 man team, and it could change drastically if it was a 2 man cult team to begin with, though i could see some benefits of that as well in terms of finding cult.
 
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