Controversial Sengoku's next

[Dragon777]

Not a legend for his power? So did Roger, one of the strongest pirates call for him because he wanted to catch up and have a drink?

It’s been implied several times that Sengoku is at least comparable in strength to prime Garp. Relax

He's clearly a hater. Don't bother.

 

[Oliver]

Again, in the context Sengoku is mentioned it’s different. If Mihawk were to say “I’m here for fun, it was either your or Red Hair”

I get that English isn't everyone's first language but perhaps you want to re-read, Roger remarked Sengoku was fun and so did Mihawk, didn't mean shit either time.

Observation haki does what again? You realize Oden hadn’t met Ashura Doji? Neither did Roger with Oden right? How the fuck are they supposed to accurately measure their strength?

Makes sense that you don't know this, here you go

http://imgur.com/a/7Z2Y3fp

Funny how you ignore the bandages point

I assumed you would be so embarrassed by such a dumb shit 'point' so I opted to ignore it to spare your feelings, neither Garp or Sengoku are pirate king level but Garp is stronger than Sengoku by feats, hype and relevance to the plot. There's no comparison between the 2, aside from that one time 30 years ago when Roger said Sengoku's name once

http://imgur.com/a/XLKztYP

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No it's not.
BB ~ Shanks
Aokiji ~ Benn

You would be seriously coping to expect Benn to be an average YC1 like katakuri...
If Zoro is stronger than all the YC1 , benn is bound to be stronger than current zoro like Shanks is to luffy.

Kuzan ~ Ben is such a weird take when Ben has literally done nothing in the entire manga.

Benn I don’t expect to be as weak as Kata, but he’s definitely not near admiral level.

 

[Cruxroux]

Kuzan ~ Ben is such a weird take when Ben has literally done nothing in the entire manga.

Benn I don’t expect to be as weak as Kata, but he’s definitely not near admiral level.

Kizaru x benn parallel is more than enough.

I don't think so you would limit yourself for a guy weaker than you

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Kizaru x benn parallel is more than enough.

I don't think so you would limit yourself for a guy weaker than you

Limit yourself? What? Kizaru looked better in that exchange since Beckman didn’t stop him from attacking Luffy at all

 

[Cruxroux]

Limit yourself? What? Kizaru looked better in that exchange since Beckman didn’t stop him from attacking Luffy at all

Kizaru ran away.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Kizaru ran away.

Kizaru literally attacked Luffy in front of Beckmans face?

 

[zenox]

Yeah the power that terraformed an island ain’t important. But the ice glove is? Kuzan was clearly not going all out

he got out the terraforming powers lol
kuzan is a cqc specialist , he aint a df magician

Having the upper hand a couple times doesn’t mean much. In battle it’s bound to happen.

garp always had the upper hand
in every interaction kuzan was getting bodied , only in the ice glove clash
did they look equal and even that was only after he got stabbed by shiryu
oda wanted to portray even old garp on the level of admirals

the only thing we could take away from those clashes is that Kuzan and the rest of the admirals by extension are around as strong as Garp

garp edges him out for me , but being on the same level is still worth considering

 

[Sir Yasheen]

he got out the terraforming powers lol
kuzan is a cqc specialist , he aint a df magician


garp always had the upper hand
in every interaction kuzan was getting bodied , only in the ice glove clash
did they look equal and even that was only after he got stabbed by shiryu
oda wanted to portray even old garp on the level of admirals


garp edges him out for me , but being on the same level is still worth considering

He’s literally both. He’s a top tier hand to hand fighter with a broken devil fruit. You can’t seriously think ice block was the limit of Kuzans fruit.

 

[Cruxroux]

Kizaru literally attacked Luffy in front of Beckmans face?

Kizaru ran away with light speed.
Instead of fighting benn.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Kizaru ran away with light speed.
Instead of fighting benn.

Cause he had no reason to fight Ben. He outright ignored Ben and instead attacked Luffy who was his target. And Ben couldn’t do shit about it.

Ben’s probably on par with Doflamingo.

 

[BigAmmi]

Sengoku is irrelevant for the actual plot and oda won't waste pages about him

 

[Cruxroux]

Ben’s probably on par with Doflamingo.

Bro got compared to shanks but you compare him to doflamingo.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Bro got compared to shanks but you compare him to doflamingo.

Seeing how the only thing he’s done in manga is taking Kids arm like Doffy did Law. Yeah.

 

[Cruxroux]

Seeing how the only thing he’s done in manga is taking Kids arm like Doffy did Law. Yeah.

Who has roger taken down canonically in manga with battle panels?

Mihawk , benn , imu , Roger are all hype and potrayal characters.

They will soon showcase what they have

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Who has roger taken down canonically in manga with battle panels?

Mihawk , benn , imu , Roger are all hype and potrayal characters.

They will soon showcase what they have

Roger who clashed evenly with Primebeard?
Mihawk who’s called in canon the Worlds Strongest Swordsman?
Imu who’s the King of the World and a monster from the void century?

You’re comparing these guys to a dude who has no canonical hype, got ignored by Kizaru, then overshadowed by Dorry and Brogy when Oda set up Shanks to show off.

 

[Cruxroux]

Roger who clashed evenly with Primebeard?
Mihawk who’s called in canon the Worlds Strongest Swordsman?
Imu who’s the King of the World and a monster from the void century?

You’re comparing these guys to a dude who has no canonical hype, got ignored by Kizaru, then overshadowed by Dorry and Brogy when Oda set up Shanks to show off.

Bro literally got compared to Shanks in strength in sbs.
Tell me that's not canon now.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Bro literally got compared to Shanks in strength in sbs.
Tell me that's not canon now.

That’s not an SBS.

 

[Cruxroux]

That’s not an SBS.

What is it vivre card?
That's not canon?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

What is it vivre card?
That's not canon?

Vivre cards are rife with incorrect information everything from Vista having Swordsmanship on par with Mihawk to Yasuie never eating a smile fruit all came from them