Questions & Mysteries Seraphims & Zoro's Inconsistency..
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When King uses Imperial Fire his fire does not go out.
Left red circle is when he used it vs the BP and the left red circle is when he gets hit.
Green circle is right before impact and probably the reason why you think the flames were off. In the same chapter you see another King closeup where the fire is apparently out, even when we saw it being on just a panel before.
When King uses Imperial Fire his fire does not go out.
Left red circle is when he used it vs the BP and the left red circle is when he gets hit.
Green circle is right before impact and probably the reason why you think the flames were off.
Hell it looks like you legit cropped out the panel right before your green circle panel where we see his back and his flame is not on.
Not sure if someone lied to you or you purposefully are just lying and cropping pages…
You can not even make out King himself in that panel. The point with Imperial Fire is that he was not shutting off his fire for earlier fire attacks. And for both Imperial Fire and Imperial Flaming Dragon he is completely stationary. Disabling his flames makes no sense at all.
Not sure why it would matter when you can see the flames on him when he gets hit.
Not sure why it would matter when you can see the flames on him when he gets hit.
You literally can perfectly see King in both panels I mentioned and both panels show him in flame off. And again we literally see the flame off when he gets hit in the double spread. We see flames on his sword, but none on his face what you posted was his head.
King clearly didn’t have his flames on when he got hit.
King clearly didn’t have his flames on when he got hit.
So i've seen many Zoro fans going with this total non sense that Seraphims and the Lunarian
Defense with flames on is '' invincible '' because Zoro said it and his words are basically biblical
scriptures in a Zoro fan's mind..
Here's the mention that they are basically '' invincible ''..
Example of the execution backing the statement..
Ok this is completely ridiculous and needs to stop.. Here's why..
Zoro said it himself as a kid that he wants to be able to cut through anything..
So just there, it's a contradiction with the character's beliefs..
Second, the Breath of all Things was introduced for that very purpose..
Every single things in the One Piece World have a Breath which can be heard(sensed)
and cut..
This means that the Lunarian body with flames on has a breath and can also
be cut.. They are by definition not invincible.. Just because Zoro is not enough strong
to cut them yet doesn't mean they are undefeatable..
Give your opinion..
Defense with flames on is '' invincible '' because Zoro said it and his words are basically biblical
scriptures in a Zoro fan's mind..
Here's the mention that they are basically '' invincible ''..
Example of the execution backing the statement..
Ok this is completely ridiculous and needs to stop.. Here's why..
Zoro said it himself as a kid that he wants to be able to cut through anything..
So just there, it's a contradiction with the character's beliefs..
Second, the Breath of all Things was introduced for that very purpose..
Every single things in the One Piece World have a Breath which can be heard(sensed)
and cut..
This means that the Lunarian body with flames on has a breath and can also
be cut.. They are by definition not invincible.. Just because Zoro is not enough strong
to cut them yet doesn't mean they are undefeatable..
Give your opinion..
When King uses Imperial Fire his fire does not go out.
Left red circle is when he used it vs the BP and the left red circle is when he gets hit.
Green circle is right before impact and probably the reason why you think the flames were off. In the same chapter you see another King closeup where the fire is apparently out, even when we saw it being on just a panel before.
Zoro never did. "basically" implies that there is a way to damage them. There is a difference between saying "it is the same thing" and "it is basically the same thing". Assuming the translation is correct.
There is no rational reason why King would disable his flames EVER if he was completely invincible while they are on.
Additional speed was never necessary to hit Zoro. Much less on a magical range attack that does not get boosted by physical speed increase.
There is no rational reason why King would disable his flames EVER if he was completely invincible while they are on.
Additional speed was never necessary to hit Zoro. Much less on a magical range attack that does not get boosted by physical speed increase.
Don't argue with him, he ran away last time I argued with him on the same topic, can't find my post atm but the short arguments are:
Two times when King used the Imperial Dragon he was in Flame On mode
If Lunarians are invincible then why was King bandaged in PH (flashback), why would he turn his flames off and suffer for experimentation
Why were the VPs concerned when Franky fired a laser beam at S-Shark? There were things that the Lunarians were not tested against and them being completely invincible is not the complete truth. Even in the official Zoro says your attacks won't work on them, they are basically invincible.
Additionally out of all the characters to know the limits of Lunarians (more than Zoro and VP) is King and he was scared of Zoro's AP (the threat that you represent, started blocking Zoro's attack). Fucktards only take Zoro's previous dialogue of its no use cutting him but then don't take the next dialogue where Zoro asks why is King blocking now.
Two times when King used the Imperial Dragon he was in Flame On mode
If Lunarians are invincible then why was King bandaged in PH (flashback), why would he turn his flames off and suffer for experimentation
Why were the VPs concerned when Franky fired a laser beam at S-Shark? There were things that the Lunarians were not tested against and them being completely invincible is not the complete truth. Even in the official Zoro says your attacks won't work on them, they are basically invincible.
Additionally out of all the characters to know the limits of Lunarians (more than Zoro and VP) is King and he was scared of Zoro's AP (the threat that you represent, started blocking Zoro's attack). Fucktards only take Zoro's previous dialogue of its no use cutting him but then don't take the next dialogue where Zoro asks why is King blocking now.
There's two things that caught my attention about their battle against the seraphims.
1 - Luffy compared them to Kaido. He called them Kaido. Yet, never used ACoC. We all know Luffy had to use ACoC against Kaido to cause him any true damage.
I know some fans believe the reason Luffy didn't use ACoC was because Zoro stated they can't be damage while in flame mode. The problem with that argument is Luffy called them Kaido prior to Zoro explaining King's power to him. Luffy should have been using ACoC prior to the explanation.
2 - Zoro statement to Luffy, Lucci and Kaku was "your attacks wont do any damage unless the flames are out". Not, our attacks won't damage unless the flames are out. There's a difference between the two.
Zoro's statement implies he's not including himself. He's only talking about Luffy, Lucci, and Kaku AP.
That means Zoro attacks can or might damage seraphims while in flame mode.
1 - Luffy compared them to Kaido. He called them Kaido. Yet, never used ACoC. We all know Luffy had to use ACoC against Kaido to cause him any true damage.
I know some fans believe the reason Luffy didn't use ACoC was because Zoro stated they can't be damage while in flame mode. The problem with that argument is Luffy called them Kaido prior to Zoro explaining King's power to him. Luffy should have been using ACoC prior to the explanation.
2 - Zoro statement to Luffy, Lucci and Kaku was "your attacks wont do any damage unless the flames are out". Not, our attacks won't damage unless the flames are out. There's a difference between the two.
Zoro's statement implies he's not including himself. He's only talking about Luffy, Lucci, and Kaku AP.
That means Zoro attacks can or might damage seraphims while in flame mode.
