General & Others Shanks might really be him!
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Lanks is not him he is no body
He is not strongest pirate nor he is strongest df user nor he is not good villain rven roofy become stronger than him before thier promised meeting. , he is there for nothing , remove him from the story now and nothing will change except roofy gonna weep .
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Lol you know oda introduced evil shanks cuz he cant think of a new role of lanks
He is not strongest pirate nor he is strongest df user nor he is not good villain rven roofy become stronger than him before thier promised meeting. , he is there for nothing , remove him from the story now and nothing will change except roofy gonna weep .
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Lol you know oda introduced evil shanks cuz he cant think of a new role of lanks
Yes, he can come close to Roger's feat with one hand. Maybe even Joy Boy himself has one hand.
Nor does it even say they have equal haki or anything.
Luffy and Kaidou split sky, yet luffy got bonked to near death state.
Kaidou and Bigmom did it, yet we all know kaidou is stronger.
Sky split only shows mastery of Conqueror Coating that's all.
And nothing is more important than the skill of coc and resistance with one hand against the attack of two-handed whitebeard. Luffy lost because he took the coc hit directly. Anyone else who received that hit would have died. In other words, Luffy could not defend Kaido's hit because of distraction, otherwise, like when the sky split, the hit might not even hit Luffy's body
Go look at their fight.
Both of the attacks would landed.
And kaidou for sure would have survived that, whereas luffy wouldn't have survived that or again near death state. Luffy fate was sealed there lol.
And whitebeard and shanks again.
Both of them fought two different version of whitebeard. If you think whitebeard packed same Physical might to prime version of whitebeard. You're wrong.
And if a yonkou ain't that monstrously strong physically, then that's pathetic
Both of the attacks would landed.
And kaidou for sure would have survived that, whereas luffy wouldn't have survived that or again near death state. Luffy fate was sealed there lol.
And whitebeard and shanks again.
Both of them fought two different version of whitebeard. If you think whitebeard packed same Physical might to prime version of whitebeard. You're wrong.
And if a yonkou ain't that monstrously strong physically, then that's pathetic
Luffy previously tanked Kaido's exact same attack.
And even after splitting the sky open, Luffy was able to stop Kaido's attacks and prevent them from hitting his body.
And once again, Chapter 1026 proves to be the strongest encounter between Kaido and Luffy.
Luffy's blows hit Kaido from a distance, and if Luffy had hit Kaido first, Kaido wouldn't have had the chance to get close to Luffy. And just like Kaido defends on this page, even Luffy could have defended Kaido's blow.
Look at the panels you posted yourself
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Kaidou bonked him so hard, he started to deflate.
Attack was highly effective. Compared to What luffy was landing on kaidou.
You're missing the point.
Not even once Luffy was actively defending against Kaidou attacks.
Gear 4 interaction with Kaidou, is always attacks landing to them. No clash or Defending was done.
Yes luffy can defend, but distraction or not, luffy fate was sealed over there.
If you're assuming Luffy can defend, why not Kaidou with FS lol. When he has already done it with Snakesman. Fastest form of Luffy.
He couldn't have defended.
Show me luffy defending in gear 4.
Their clash would have resulted the same.
On top of that kaidou was already landing his on Luffy while he was doing all the bending with his hands.
Kaidou took on thr same attack, and had his Boro breath blast inside his mouth only. Double damage, yet the very next kaifou speed blitz luffy damaging him to nearly deflate.
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Kaidou bonked him so hard, he started to deflate.
Attack was highly effective. Compared to What luffy was landing on kaidou.
You're missing the point.
Not even once Luffy was actively defending against Kaidou attacks.
Gear 4 interaction with Kaidou, is always attacks landing to them. No clash or Defending was done.
Yes luffy can defend, but distraction or not, luffy fate was sealed over there.
If you're assuming Luffy can defend, why not Kaidou with FS lol. When he has already done it with Snakesman. Fastest form of Luffy.
He couldn't have defended.
Show me luffy defending in gear 4.
Their clash would have resulted the same.
On top of that kaidou was already landing his on Luffy while he was doing all the bending with his hands.
Kaidou took on thr same attack, and had his Boro breath blast inside his mouth only. Double damage, yet the very next kaifou speed blitz luffy damaging him to nearly deflate.
In the last page I posted, Luffy's normal punch knocked Kaido off balance. Why shouldn't a stronger punch be able to knock Kaido back?
Yes, Luffy's stronger punch would have prevented Kaido from getting close to Luffy's body to hit him.
Just as Kaido can use FS, so can Luffy, and Kaido couldn't dodge any of Luffy's attacks in that chapter.
When Luffy can block Kaido's attacks in his base form, why can't he in a stronger form?
The author himself compares Luffy's eyes to Oden's on the last page, showing that Luffy is distracted.
Yes, Luffy's stronger punch would have prevented Kaido from getting close to Luffy's body to hit him.
Just as Kaido can use FS, so can Luffy, and Kaido couldn't dodge any of Luffy's attacks in that chapter.
When Luffy can block Kaido's attacks in his base form, why can't he in a stronger form?
The author himself compares Luffy's eyes to Oden's on the last page, showing that Luffy is distracted.
Ohk let's say he did push him back. What's next?
Kaidou gonna stand up and Speed blitz him again like this. + Kaidou took double damage here, from his Boro breath as well.
It's the same attack luffy was trying.
Kaidou speed blitzed him next moment.
Again read the manga.
Same attack, kaidou was at distance charging Boro breath. Yet Luffy got Speed blitzed next moment.
This is from the same chapter.
He defended against Low tier attacks.
Not even named ones to be exact.
Distraction was just to frustrate kaidou further.
- Luffy was out of his gear 4. Literally read the dialogues.
- Attack would have met no matter what.
- Luffy fate was sealed here.
No amount of copium can change that.
Kaidou gonna stand up and Speed blitz him again like this. + Kaidou took double damage here, from his Boro breath as well.
Kaidou speed blitzed him next moment.
Again read the manga.
Same attack, kaidou was at distance charging Boro breath. Yet Luffy got Speed blitzed next moment.
He defended against Low tier attacks.
Not even named ones to be exact.
Distraction was just to frustrate kaidou further.
- Luffy was out of his gear 4. Literally read the dialogues.
- Attack would have met no matter what.
- Luffy fate was sealed here.
No amount of copium can change that.
Ohk let's say he did push him back. What's next?
Kaidou gonna stand up and Speed blitz him again like this. + Kaidou took double damage here, from his Boro breath as well.
It's the same attack luffy was trying.
Kaidou speed blitzed him next moment.
Again read the manga.
Same attack, kaidou was at distance charging Boro breath. Yet Luffy got Speed blitzed next moment.
This is from the same chapter.
He defended against Low tier attacks.
Not even named ones to be exact.
Distraction was just to frustrate kaidou further.
- Luffy was out of his gear 4. Literally read the dialogues.
- Attack would have met no matter what.
- Luffy fate was sealed here.
No amount of copium can change that.
Kaidou gonna stand up and Speed blitz him again like this. + Kaidou took double damage here, from his Boro breath as well.
Kaidou speed blitzed him next moment.
Again read the manga.
Same attack, kaidou was at distance charging Boro breath. Yet Luffy got Speed blitzed next moment.
He defended against Low tier attacks.
Not even named ones to be exact.
Distraction was just to frustrate kaidou further.
- Luffy was out of his gear 4. Literally read the dialogues.
- Attack would have met no matter what.
- Luffy fate was sealed here.
No amount of copium can change that.
Kaido surprised Luffy by turning into Hybrid mode on that screen, which is why Luffy was surprised before receiving the hit.
What happened when Kaido used FS?
He took the same hit from Luffy right after that and couldn't dodge from a greater distance.
They both tanked each other's exact same attacks before.
And again, no one in Wano could have taken this direct hit from Kaido and survived. Luffy tanked the previous hit because after the impact, the hit bounced and that hit didn't hit him completely, causing Luffy to be thrown, exactly what CP guy did by grabbing Luffy, causing Luffy to take the hit completely.
Kaidou " Speed Blitz " him.
Do you understand that.
Luffy was surprised that an attack even came after that attack.
Wrong.
Luffy also dodged kaidou strike, why get hit after that then? That's some dumb analogy there.
They both didn't tank, Kaidou stood stood up immediately and speed blitz luffy.
Whereas,
Luffy was deflating. Barely holding on. There's difference.
Luffy knew he won't last long.
Kinemon, Zoro, Law.
Luffy was on his last stand. Literally you just have to read my bro.
You are making this shit up at this point.
No dude.
Luffy would have ended up the same no matter what.
- Gear 4 time limit was up. 1 or 2 is the best attack he could manage.
- Kaidou hit him with more amped of version of himself, " Blood thristy mode ".
- Attack would have landed no matter what. Both were ready to attack and take each other attack at the same time.
Kaidou would have brushed it off, whereas Luffy couldn't have.
Do you understand that.
Luffy was surprised that an attack even came after that attack.
Wrong.
Luffy also dodged kaidou strike, why get hit after that then? That's some dumb analogy there.
They both didn't tank, Kaidou stood stood up immediately and speed blitz luffy.
Whereas,
Luffy was deflating. Barely holding on. There's difference.
Luffy knew he won't last long.
Kinemon, Zoro, Law.
Luffy was on his last stand. Literally you just have to read my bro.
No dude.
Luffy would have ended up the same no matter what.
- Gear 4 time limit was up. 1 or 2 is the best attack he could manage.
- Kaidou hit him with more amped of version of himself, " Blood thristy mode ".
- Attack would have landed no matter what. Both were ready to attack and take each other attack at the same time.
Kaidou would have brushed it off, whereas Luffy couldn't have.
Kaidou " Speed Blitz " him.
Do you understand that.
Luffy was surprised that an attack even came after that attack.
Wrong.
Luffy also dodged kaidou strike, why get hit after that then? That's some dumb analogy there.
They both didn't tank, Kaidou stood stood up immediately and speed blitz luffy.
Whereas,
Luffy was deflating. Barely holding on. There's difference.
Luffy knew he won't last long.
Kinemon, Zoro, Law.
Luffy was on his last stand. Literally you just have to read my bro.
You are making this shit up at this point.
No dude.
Luffy would have ended up the same no matter what.
- Gear 4 time limit was up. 1 or 2 is the best attack he could manage.
- Kaidou hit him with more amped of version of himself, " Blood thristy mode ".
- Attack would have landed no matter what. Both were ready to attack and take each other attack at the same time.
Kaidou would have brushed it off, whereas Luffy couldn't have.
Do you understand that.
Luffy was surprised that an attack even came after that attack.
Wrong.
Luffy also dodged kaidou strike, why get hit after that then? That's some dumb analogy there.
They both didn't tank, Kaidou stood stood up immediately and speed blitz luffy.
Whereas,
Luffy was deflating. Barely holding on. There's difference.
Luffy knew he won't last long.
Kinemon, Zoro, Law.
Luffy was on his last stand. Literally you just have to read my bro.
No dude.
Luffy would have ended up the same no matter what.
- Gear 4 time limit was up. 1 or 2 is the best attack he could manage.
- Kaidou hit him with more amped of version of himself, " Blood thristy mode ".
- Attack would have landed no matter what. Both were ready to attack and take each other attack at the same time.
Kaidou would have brushed it off, whereas Luffy couldn't have.
The difference is very clear when Kaido's blow hits the target and doesn't hit it.
Law and Zoro didn't receive this blow directly and even Kaido's blow was much weaker which made law invisible for a few pages.
Luffy could have matched Kaido at that moment and when Kaido used his fruit and ultimate attack he could have defeated Luffy. No one is against this part and Luffy needed awakening to defeat Kaido's form. What does this have to do with Luffy's haki?
Shanks is a sword and haki fighter and we saw that he has no problem repeating Roger's two powerful blows and fighting Loki and Kid.
Shanks and Roger don't have fruit, haki is all they have
What exactly are you trying to prove? The greatest attacks of Rocks and Harald, the Yonkos, Roger and Whitebeard, Aokiji and Garp are when they split the sky or cause explosions.
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- One attack is Thunder bagua and the other is Thunder below Bagua. So again you're wrong. Not the same move.
- Luffu used FS on that move and still couldn't defend properly and got damaged.
Wdym didn't take it directly?
It hit them. And they didn't even have time to use haki.
Not only that Zoro was Already at 1 HP there. And still survived.
Law survived as well.
When did I ever comment about Luffy haki?
And?
I don't remember disagreeing it?
No shit Sherlock, Tell me something I didn't know already.
Now that's where you're wrong lol.
" The greatest attacks of Rocks and Harald, yonkou " is the one where where they split Sky?
What dumb Analogy is this?
Kaidou and Bigmom Split sky in base form.
Greatest attack? I'm sorry no lol.
Sky split is only a Indicator to Mastered " AdCoC ".
That's all. Luffy can have weaker haki than kaidou and still Sky split. Same goes with Bigmom.
- Luffu used FS on that move and still couldn't defend properly and got damaged.
Wdym didn't take it directly?
It hit them. And they didn't even have time to use haki.
Not only that Zoro was Already at 1 HP there. And still survived.
Law survived as well.
When did I ever comment about Luffy haki?
And?
I don't remember disagreeing it?
No shit Sherlock, Tell me something I didn't know already.
Now that's where you're wrong lol.
" The greatest attacks of Rocks and Harald, yonkou " is the one where where they split Sky?
What dumb Analogy is this?
Kaidou and Bigmom Split sky in base form.
Greatest attack? I'm sorry no lol.
Sky split is only a Indicator to Mastered " AdCoC ".
That's all. Luffy can have weaker haki than kaidou and still Sky split. Same goes with Bigmom.
Luffy didn't try to defend and just wanted to dodge which was somewhat successful
We saw the difference between a full hit and not hitting it
Kaidou didn't have a specific target he just attacked Zoro and Law at the same time and even Luffy had survived this hit and even stronger hits in the same chapter
I'm talking about Kaido's direct hit in chapter 1042 that no one can take that hit directly and survive as Luffy couldn't with better stamina and defense
Yes the strongest advcoc attack of the Yonkos and Harald and Rocks is exactly what we see
And it has nothing to do with the skill of using advcoc they just use haki with full power that's why it causes buildings to explode or people to faint and throw people what does it have to do with skill?
We saw the difference between a full hit and not hitting it
Kaidou didn't have a specific target he just attacked Zoro and Law at the same time and even Luffy had survived this hit and even stronger hits in the same chapter
I'm talking about Kaido's direct hit in chapter 1042 that no one can take that hit directly and survive as Luffy couldn't with better stamina and defense
Yes the strongest advcoc attack of the Yonkos and Harald and Rocks is exactly what we see
And it has nothing to do with the skill of using advcoc they just use haki with full power that's why it causes buildings to explode or people to faint and throw people what does it have to do with skill?
No he wasn't, Kaido even points it out. He ain't doing the same mistake again but still slow.
Actually he passed out from one attack before Zoro and Law were attacked.
That's what I'm trying to tell you. His fate was sealed.
Zoro took all the damage from kaidou and then king and got it doubled and survived without a Awakened Zoan fruit. Let alone a zoan fruit.
No it's not lol.
Read the chapters and think again please.
Chapter 1011, Same no touch clash. And no sky split.
- luffy losses
- Kaidou - ' Your use of AdCoC is " Crude " '
Comes back in chapter 1026,
- Does the same and split Sky.
It has everything to do with skill whether you like it or not.
Actually he passed out from one attack before Zoro and Law were attacked.
That's what I'm trying to tell you. His fate was sealed.
Zoro took all the damage from kaidou and then king and got it doubled and survived without a Awakened Zoan fruit. Let alone a zoan fruit.
No it's not lol.
Read the chapters and think again please.
Chapter 1011, Same no touch clash. And no sky split.
- luffy losses
- Kaidou - ' Your use of AdCoC is " Crude " '
Comes back in chapter 1026,
- Does the same and split Sky.
It has everything to do with skill whether you like it or not.
