Questions & Mysteries Should Ryuma be compared to Joyboy

Finalbeta

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#49
I feel like Ryuma vs Joy Boy is the new Zoro vs Joy Boy 2 aka Luffy why not.

The premises are all there when we look at the deep parallels.
 
#57
How can you compare two characters importance wise when they had different jobs and roles? From what we know Joyboy was alive 800 years ago and most likely lost the war against the rebellion/rulers which became the WG. Ryuma at most was 400 years ago (the canon material iirc says that he was alive a couple hundred (centuries) ago. Ryuma was a native of Wano from what we know being a Shimotsuki (or the clan started after him, idk).

Joyboy was meant to be a liberator (maybe he was the head of the rebellion). After the war Wano was closed off to the rest of the world as far as we know. And it was to remain closed off until the next Joyboy comes. So Ryuma's job was to defend Wano's borders and keep it closed off to the world. And he warded off/defeated anyone who came whether they were WG or pirates. Even after his death nobody messed with Wano, he put the fear of the samurai in the rest of the world, people not even from Wano had heard of his legend iirc.

Power wise we have no idea, both are considered gods (sun and sword) but most likely Joyboy should have been stronger but we can't know for sure. Maybe the reason the previous Joyboy was unable to win was because he did not have his partner (Ryuma) by his side. And the prophecy and why Toki jumped to this timeline was because all the winning factors would be together at the same time, 2nd coming of Joyboy, 2nd coming of Ryuma, Poseidon, Pluton, Uranus, Kozuki heir etc. and their leader would be Joyboy. However someone who has already been working to liberate the world against the WG and doing it deliberately is Monkey D Dragon.
 
#58
Ryuma is the reason why the WG wich is the strongest faction in the verse didn't fuck with Wano for 400 years , imagine what this man must have done to traumatize generations of fleet admirals,admirals,gorosei and fucking imu sama.
Ryuma can solo 3 admirals minimum
 
#59
In terms of individual power I'd say yes.

For me, Black Blade is one of peak haki power if not peak until proven wrong.

But in terms of hype it depends on you.

I like goals that are meant for individuals like WSS, that's why I'm more hyped with Ryuma and why I'm a Mihawk and Zoro fan more than Luffy and Shanks fan.

But in terms of worldly conquest, there is more hype in JoyBoy, especially because of the Nika fruit.
 
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