Powers & Abilities Should Zoro deserve to be equal with Luffy in Strength?

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Strength isn't all that it takes to win a fight.....
No unlike luffy he already had the ryou to do so which is why he had to get lost the first time kaido showed up so oda fidnt have to draw luffy doing fuck all and zoro hurting him.
And kaidos defence is a million miles above luffys. So the fact zoro can cut through that with ryou and he has mountain busting power means he clapping luffy out the timeskip. Its nice oda gave him an arc off for luffy to Finally catch up tho.
 
No unlike luffy he already had the ryou to do so which is why he had to get lost the first time kaido showed up so oda fidnt have to draw luffy doing fuck all and zoro hurting him.
And kaidos defence is a million miles above luffys. So the fact zoro can cut through that with ryou and he has mountain busting power means he clapping luffy out the timeskip. Its nice oda gave him an arc off for luffy to Finally catch up tho.
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The dude who can't last 5 full minutes against Killer gets blitzed and beaten into oblivion by the dude who defeated Doflamingo and lasted over 10 hours + twice against Yonko Commanders....
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
:usoprice:

The dude who can't last 5 full minutes against Killer gets blitzed and beaten into oblivion by the dude who defeated Doflamingo and lasted over 10 hours + twice against Yonko Commanders....
Lmfao with luffys shitty haki that has been broken or stated to be weaker than all his opponents post timeskip from hody to ulti bar cesar fuckin clown. He gets ripped apart
 
No he said hed surpass them and become pirate king not that hed surpass them both and become pirate king this arc
he wont be individually above kaido and he wont be pirate king by the end of wano.
So he promised to lose in this arc and surpass Kaidou later? Instead of surpassing the arc's boss like every time? Instead of keeping his promise and surpass his opponent directly?

If you want that kind of path for Luffy, why dont you hope for that kind of path for Zoro instead? If Zoro say he wanna surpass Mihawk, just argue that in the final decisive battle against Mihawk, that Zoro would lose and become WSS some other time like after Mihawk's defeated by some other guys.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
So he promised to lose in this arc and surpass Kaidou later? Instead of surpassing the arc's boss like every time? Instead of keeping his promise and surpass his opponent directly?

If you want that kind of path for Luffy, why dont you hope for that kind of path for Zoro instead? If Zoro say he wanna surpass Mihawk, just argue that in the final decisive battle against Mihawk, that Zoro would lose and become WSS some other time like after Mihawk's defeated by some other guys.
Why you picking and choosing what he said. He said hed surpass them both and become pirate king. Is he gonna be pirate king this arc no he fuckin isnt. So why just taking half of what he said and saying he will.
 
Why you picking and choosing what he said. He said hed surpass them both and become pirate king. Is he gonna be pirate king this arc no he fuckin isnt. So why just taking half of what he said and saying he will.
You're the one focusing on surpassing term, and guarantee that Luffy will surpass Kaidou later, while every arc ends with Luffy surpassing his main opponent. So why do you cherry-pick that to be grouped with PK status instead? Do you believe that Zoro will suffer the same path like you prefer for Luffy? If so, it's not objective and you're just don't want Luffy to fulfill his purpose in the manga the way you want Zoro to.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
You're the one focusing on surpassing term, and guarantee that Luffy will surpass Kaidou later, while every arc ends with Luffy surpassing his main opponent. So why do you cherry-pick that to be grouped with PK status instead? Do you believe that Zoro will suffer the same path like you prefer for Luffy? If so, it's not objective and you're just don't want Luffy to fulfill his purpose in the manga the way you want Zoro to.
Luffy wont be fighting mihawk with zoro and and a bunch of other guys thats why. He aint surpassing someone this arc that he needs help to beat.
 
Luffy wont be fighting mihawk with zoro and and a bunch of other guys thats why. He aint surpassing someone this arc that he needs help to beat.
and i've answered you how luffy can surpass Kaidou even with help. Just like how Luffy using KKG already surpassed Dofla by one-shot even with previous help. Even if you dont want to believe Luffy will surpass Kaidou individually this arc, Zoro already lost the right to be placed as Luffy's equal. Since PK > WSC > WSS is already a fact since WSC wanna be PK.
 
Be it in strength or speed, Luffy's feats are much above Zoro in every way. He also has an overpowered hax ability like future sight which Zoro doesn't and can't even counter it for all we know. Portrayal is pretty subjective. It'll be after this fight with Kaido that we can know things clearly. Right now at least, Luffy is heads above Zoro, going by feats.
Which feats do you mean?

Future Sight isn't hax. We've already seen it lost to Luffy's pride (zombie), anger (Kaido), and lack of understanding (Apoo). Being an unarmed combatant meant getting struck out in one move, where the other four rooftop fighters don't have that vulnerability and Zoro is clearly the strongest of the weapon users there.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
and i've answered you how luffy can surpass Kaidou even with help. Just like how Luffy using KKG already surpassed Dofla by one-shot even with previous help. Even if you dont want to believe Luffy will surpass Kaidou individually this arc, Zoro already lost the right to be placed as Luffy's equal. Since PK > WSC > WSS is already a fact since WSC wanna be PK.
You havent answered shit.
If zoro cant surpass mihawk by teaming up with a load of people
And no one took wbs wsm title in marineford cause it took a whole bunch to finish him
Why tf would luffy surpass kaido in a team battle
 
You havent answered shit.
If zoro cant surpass mihawk by teaming up with a load of people
And no one took wbs wsm title in marineford cause it took a whole bunch to finish him
Why tf would luffy surpass kaido in a team battle
Because Luffy still will surpass Kaidou in individual powerlevel in this fight even if its team battle. And if you don't accept that Luffy will surpass WSC because of team battles, don't accept that WB beat Akainu in MF by two-shotting him, because Akainu also fought many fighters before WB so technically its a team fight.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Because Luffy still will surpass Kaidou in individual powerlevel in this fight even if its team battle. And if you don't accept that Luffy will surpass WSC because of team battles, don't accept that WB beat Akainu in MF by two-shotting him, because Akainu also fought many fighters before WB so technically its a team fight.
Lmfao wb didnt beat akainu he fuckin snuck him. How can you surpass someone you need help to beat ? If luffys gonna be stronger why does he need the help ?
 
not sure what the first panel proves Arlong was scared for his life because of a dying zoro and even said he needed to finish him off quickly and was amazed at zoro's endurance do you think EB luffy would fair better after a fight with mihawk.



Meanwhile Judge's failure Slowji:





Luffy was also destroyed by Lucci so your second panel doesnt make sense either
 
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not sure what the first panel proves Arlong was scared for his life because of a dying zoro and even said he needed to finish him off quickly and was amazed at zoro's endurance do you think EB luffy would fair better after a fight with mihawk.



Meanwhile Judge's failure Slowji:





Luffy was also destroyed by Lucci so your second panel doesnt make sense either
but luffy recovered and beat him, zoro didn't. and arlong was just arogant and racist
 
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