Character Discussion Smoker fans are delusional.

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#22
Smoker fan here. Used to be a much bigger fan before PH.

He got destroyed by Law, Vergo, and Doflamingo in one arc. His reputation is forever tarnished. I wish he had put up a better fight, even though I don't fault him for losing to stronger characters but Oda really could have just made him defeat Vergo, like I get Law and Doffy but a one arc minion like Vergo? That's pretty brutal, and he was clearly weaker than Vergo too even if the gap wasn't that big.
 
#23
As if that means a damn thing. You have a rep yourself, crying about OP. Why don't you go to a Naruto forum?
I am not crying about op. I am only pointing out what an unfunny joke op has become.

Smoker fan here. Used to be a much bigger fan before PH.

He got destroyed by Law, Vergo, and Doflamingo in one arc. His reputation is forever tarnished. I wish he had put up a better fight, even though I don't fault him for losing to stronger characters but Oda really could have just made him defeat Vergo, like I get Law and Doffy but a one arc minion like Vergo? That's pretty brutal, and he was clearly weaker than Vergo too even if the gap wasn't that big.
It is sad that i have to make such obvious threads. Most smoker fans are delusional
 
#24
I am not crying about op. I am only pointing out what an unfunny joke op has become.


It is sad that i have to make such obvious threads. Most smoker fans are delusional
It's never been the greatest, it had a good run and the complaints always there one way or another. It's just more visible now. How the manga has been run is the editorial departments fault imo.
But from what I've seen of you, no It's just obnoxious.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#25
It is sad that i have to make such obvious threads. Most smoker fans are delusional
I know power levels shouldn't be everything but Smoker used to be my favourite marine and one of my top 5 fave characters.

PH reduced him to a hype tool for 3 different characters in one arc, heck 4 if you want to count CC when he was switched with Tashigi. It's hard to have the same level of love for the character because a lot of what made me like him was his relentlessness, but he essentially became Law's lackey, passing off the task of taking down Vergo (of all people ffs) to Law. Too much beta energy honestly from one of the hardest mfers pre timeskip.
 
#26
I know power levels shouldn't be everything but Smoker used to be my favourite marine and one of my top 5 fave characters.

PH reduced him to a hype tool for 3 different characters in one arc, heck 4 if you want to count CC when he was switched with Tashigi. It's hard to have the same level of love for the character because a lot of what made me like him was his relentlessness, but he essentially became Law's lackey, passing off the task of taking down Vergo (of all people ffs) to Law. Too much beta energy honestly from one of the hardest mfers pre timeskip.
It was pretty relentless and badass of him to be willing to side with pirates to take down pirates, though.

Ws and Ls are not all that matters in a character.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#27
It was pretty relentless and badass of him to be willing to side with pirates to take down pirates, though.

Ws and Ls are not all that matters in a character.
If Smoker is Garp does that make Law Roger in this scenario?

They teamed up to defeat Vergo. Kinda funny how Smoker went from being connected to Luffy to suddenly mostly paired with Law on PH. He had Law destroy all the Smoker vs Luffy build up, Oda really respects Law, maybe to a fault at times. I could have done without the team up against Vergo, let me repeat that, we're talking about Vergo, not Doffy, not a commander, Vergo lol.
 
#28
If Smoker is Garp does that make Law Roger in this scenario?

They teamed up to defeat Vergo. Kinda funny how Smoker went from being connected to Luffy to suddenly mostly paired with Law on PH. Oda really respects Law, maybe to a fault at times. I could have done without the team up against Vergo, let me repeat that, we're talking about Vergo, not Doffy, not a commander, Vergo lol.
I think it will pay off in the future against a bigger name, hopefully.
 
#29
I know power levels shouldn't be everything but Smoker used to be my favourite marine and one of my top 5 fave characters.

PH reduced him to a hype tool for 3 different characters in one arc, heck 4 if you want to count CC when he was switched with Tashigi. It's hard to have the same level of love for the character because a lot of what made me like him was his relentlessness, but he essentially became Law's lackey, passing off the task of taking down Vergo (of all people ffs) to Law. Too much beta energy honestly from one of the hardest mfers pre timeskip.
Mirin this stan honesty
 

SmokedOut

Life Is Good ✌️
#37
Smh, Smoker fans aren't delusional; we're realistic. Aside from Tashigi fans (shout out to @KiriNigiri and others), we're the most chill people here. We know who he is and what he stands for. We know his character and we don't care about anything but his portrayal and how he sticks to his code of justice. The main fandom were the ones who placed those lofty expectations on Smoker (the next Garp, Luffy's Roger, or whatever else people claim), not us. Knock him, slander him, and talk crap about him if you want, because we don't give a shit what you think. Oh, and if haters ever get hungry.

 
#38
There at least four of us!

But yeah Smoker’s been shafted pretty hard post-skip, can’t say otherwise.

(Although he did do way better against Vergo than most think and I still say he could have won if he didn‘t try to rescue Law’s heart instead)

Hopefully redeemed when he comes back into the plot.
Im hoping some kind of fast track training with vegapank to shoot him upthere with yc1
 
B

Ballel

#40
Of course. "Strength" is not everything, Smoker is still a badass. He’s a great character and has a great sense of justice. I’m excited for his return
I'm disappointed in how Oda handled him.
I thought he would turn out to be a recurring rival of Luffy's.
Yet here we are, Smoker got clowned by Vergo.
 
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