Speculations So have Smoker, Hina and Tashigi been completely passed over in favor of the SWORD Marines?
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Well what about the parallels between her and Shiryu?
https://x.com/3SkullJoe/status/1950071931190808631
Source: 3SkullJoe
".Shiryu's epithet is "Shiryu of the Rain."
.Tashigi's sword is "Shigure." / "Autumn Rain."
.It was raining when Zoro first fought Tashigi
.When it started raining in Alabasta, Tashigi was the first to comment
.Tashigi used a rain themed move to finish off Monet
.Tashigi can't see in her introduction
.Shiryu is invisible
.Tashigi's dream is to take the Meito blades from evil swordsman
.Shiryu is the stereotype of an evil swordsman"
You can have a cold hard "realistic" analysis of the story but I think they are bound to fail, only a dreaming analysis open to lots of possibilities can suceed in predictions, because people aren't cold hard things, and a people write this story
https://x.com/3SkullJoe/status/1950071931190808631
Source: 3SkullJoe
".Shiryu's epithet is "Shiryu of the Rain."
.Tashigi's sword is "Shigure." / "Autumn Rain."
.It was raining when Zoro first fought Tashigi
.When it started raining in Alabasta, Tashigi was the first to comment
.Tashigi used a rain themed move to finish off Monet
.Tashigi can't see in her introduction
.Shiryu is invisible
.Tashigi's dream is to take the Meito blades from evil swordsman
.Shiryu is the stereotype of an evil swordsman"
You can have a cold hard "realistic" analysis of the story but I think they are bound to fail, only a dreaming analysis open to lots of possibilities can suceed in predictions, because people aren't cold hard things, and a people write this story
Stop merging your backstory with Wamato and Welmeppo. I appreciate why you love these characters (I've read your story), and I have sympathy... but there is no need to push them so high. It's just not feasible.
Let's be real. Oda doesn't really care for Welmeppo outside of him becoming Koby's Bogard (which is still pretty cool, mind you).
As for Tashigi... she couldn't even beat Monet. She isn't beating Shiryuu of all people.
Heck, even my goat, Smoker, is probably getting nothing significant.
Let's accept it... Oda changed course, or our faves are negged by other's faves.
Let's be real. Oda doesn't really care for Welmeppo outside of him becoming Koby's Bogard (which is still pretty cool, mind you).
As for Tashigi... she couldn't even beat Monet. She isn't beating Shiryuu of all people.
Heck, even my goat, Smoker, is probably getting nothing significant.
Let's accept it... Oda changed course, or our faves are negged by other's faves.
Stop merging your backstory with Wamato and Welmeppo. I appreciate why you love these characters (I've read your story), and I have sympathy... but there is no need to push them so high. It's just not feasible.
Let's be real. Oda doesn't really care for Welmeppo outside of him becoming Koby's Bogard (which is still pretty cool, mind you).
As for Tashigi... she couldn't even beat Monet. She isn't beating Shiryuu of all people.
Heck, even my goat, Smoker, is probably getting nothing significant.
Let's accept it... Oda changed course, or our faves are negged by other's faves.
Let's be real. Oda doesn't really care for Welmeppo outside of him becoming Koby's Bogard (which is still pretty cool, mind you).
As for Tashigi... she couldn't even beat Monet. She isn't beating Shiryuu of all people.
Heck, even my goat, Smoker, is probably getting nothing significant.
Let's accept it... Oda changed course, or our faves are negged by other's faves.
It's laughable people think Oda has written off Smoker.
He was seen recently going somewhere on his smoke bike meaning Oda has plans to develop this to go somewhere.
Smoker is the only marine character to tell the Gorosei to eat shit and talk shit to a warlord knowing full well the government wouldn't punish said warlord.
Ya'll to power level obsessed to understand basic story telling. Smoker will return and I suspect it'll be something to do with Kuzan seeing how Oda has set up their friendship since pre-ts.
He was seen recently going somewhere on his smoke bike meaning Oda has plans to develop this to go somewhere.
Smoker is the only marine character to tell the Gorosei to eat shit and talk shit to a warlord knowing full well the government wouldn't punish said warlord.
Ya'll to power level obsessed to understand basic story telling. Smoker will return and I suspect it'll be something to do with Kuzan seeing how Oda has set up their friendship since pre-ts.
Congrats, you managed to straw-man it again, reducing everything to a power-scaling issue.
If you read properly, you'd understand that people are fed up with Smoker's character because of unkept narrative promises, and not just because he was fodderized in PH.
You cite his stance against the Warlord system, yet you forget to mention how that plotline was taken over by Fujitora, how it was Fujitora's suggestion to dissolve it, and how Fujitora led to its end, while Smoker played no role in it post-ts.
If you read properly, you'd understand that people are fed up with Smoker's character because of unkept narrative promises, and not just because he was fodderized in PH.
You cite his stance against the Warlord system, yet you forget to mention how that plotline was taken over by Fujitora, how it was Fujitora's suggestion to dissolve it, and how Fujitora led to its end, while Smoker played no role in it post-ts.
Not really straw manning when if you ask why the people who don't like Smoker why they don't like him 90% or more will say durp he lost 3 times on PH durpy durp.
So what if he hasn't played a role yet post time skip. Coby went the full pre-ts doing nothing. He went through an arc throwing hands with everyone even if they were stronger than him a quality a lot of the marines don't have. He's still to play his role and with Kuzan becoming a pirate it's obvious Oda is setting up a confrontation between the two seeing as since pre timeskip the two have had history.
Unless of course you think Smoker appearing to go somewhere recently in the manga will lead to nothing then it's hard to argue he's not going to be relevant again.
Smoker and Luffy are still to settle the score and the stronger Luffy gets the more upscale Smoker will get.
Admiral Smoker incoming
So what if he hasn't played a role yet post time skip. Coby went the full pre-ts doing nothing. He went through an arc throwing hands with everyone even if they were stronger than him a quality a lot of the marines don't have. He's still to play his role and with Kuzan becoming a pirate it's obvious Oda is setting up a confrontation between the two seeing as since pre timeskip the two have had history.
Unless of course you think Smoker appearing to go somewhere recently in the manga will lead to nothing then it's hard to argue he's not going to be relevant again.
Smoker and Luffy are still to settle the score and the stronger Luffy gets the more upscale Smoker will get.
Admiral Smoker incoming