Questions & Mysteries So if the commanders of Germa 66 are based on the original Vinsmkke family that conquered the North Blue 300 years ago, how...?

[Dark Knight Sanji]

... did the original Vinsmoke family gain the ability to use their special abilities. Also, who built the raid suits, given their integral to the comics? Do you think the OG Vinsmokes had advanced science and Judge only rediscovered it? After so many years, we still don't understand anything.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Judge didn’t rediscover anything, the raid suits were heirlooms passed down the Vinsmoke Family for generations. Judge didn’t make them, that’s why Queen straight up calls it Germa Science.

Judges science was genetic engineering the clone soldiers and exoskeleton.

 

[OykotsTreasure]

I suppose the Raid Suits could be old Void Century technology that managed to survive to the present day? That feels like one possibility, anyway. Some sort of Void Century clothing factory managed to survive and they used it to make the Raid Suits.

Given how "Sentai/Ranger" coded the Germa are, it could be something else. Maybe something tied to the Abyss Mark system? A lot of the Germa's powers do seem similar enough to the God's Knight's abilities, that they could be related, to a point. I could see one inspiring the other, at least. Using the "power of darkness" for "justice" is a common enough trope in stuff like Super Sentai and Kamen Rider that it could be a reference. The Numbers they all have might not actually be just for "style". Maybe the the Numbers are actually the power source, if they're using some form of "Symbol Magic". Their Numbers are their version of the Marks and Contracts. Just...worse, because the Germa are copying the real power of Imu.

But, I am leaning more towards ancient Void Century technology, myself. Maybe back then, EVERYONE was wearing Raid Suits for everyday life! Maybe it was the hot new trend, in the Void Century.

 

[Kishido]

Judge didn’t rediscover anything, the raid suits were heirlooms passed down the Vinsmoke Family for generations. Judge didn’t make them, that’s why Queen straight up calls it Germa Science.

Judges science was genetic engineering the clone soldiers and exoskeleton.

Not at all. Judge actually with his genetics gave them powers even without the suits.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Not at all. Judge actually with his genetics gave them powers even without the suits.

I don’t think even Judge knows how that happened. Judge’s design (as were told by Queen) was to create super soldiers with an exoskeleton, enhanced strength, and a heart of ice.

The vinsmoke siblings able to adapt their bodies to utilize the RS abilities outside the suit doesn’t seem like it was in that design.

 

[Kishido]

I don’t think even Judge knows how that happened. Judge’s design (as were told by Queen) was to create super soldiers with an exoskeleton, enhanced strength, and a heart of ice.

The vinsmoke siblings able to adapt their bodies to utilize the RS abilities outside the suit doesn’t seem like it was in that design.

Yeah the whole thing is strange after all. Niji broke it with his showings without the suit. Same goes for Sanji. People theorize that DJ is because of Judhe as well even if the power of the suit is invisibility. And fire plus invisibility makes no sense.

But the Databook stated that the siblings are able to use their powers without the suits

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yeah the whole thing is strange after all. Niji broke it with his showings without the suit. Same goes for Sanji. People theorize that DJ is because of Judhe as well even if the power of the suit is invisibility. And fire plus invisibility makes no sense.

But the Databook stated that the siblings are able to use their powers without the suits

They are, but Niji was also able to use Stealth Blacks power without the suit, which is why it seems coincidental. And more like somehow their bodies adapted to the suits rather than any sort of planning by Judge.