Powers & Abilities So it is no problem for these characters to have CoC, but for some reason it is a problem for these guys

#61
Why are admirals acting like they wasnt shitting on coc for years?

Saying kaido was a liar and coping?

Saying admirals don’t need coqs and it’s for losers?

Now yall realize haki>df like yonko and sword fans been saying for years is real and admirals can’t beat elders or HK without it all of a sudden it’s
“ERHHM ACTUALLY ALL ADMIRALS HAVE COQS NOW ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS LOW IQ🤓”

why would a group that’s been slandering haki for years now wants the ppl they shit talked to accept their hypocritical ass now??
so much for logia supremacy shut and :HoldThisL:
Now we need defeat Gorosei, give us coc.
 
#62
I never used to agree but I thought Dark Witch was smarter than this

Its been time to drop the idea that conqueror's haki requires some grand ambition if you ask me. Clearly it isn't at all tied to what you want to do but more so if you have the will to seize it by any means necessary. Going by numerous examples, there are plenty of conqueror's haki users who have simple ambitions.
Like what
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#64
The suicidal crying drunk Kaido:

The Fat Childish Big Mom who got flipped over by Jinbe and rolled away by Robin:

The Deranged Oden Wannabe who can't be her own character:

Kid who got confirmed to have CoC but never once used it during the Wano arc:

Imu the supposed final villain of the series who was shaking in his shadowy boots over Joy Boy's CoC:

The idiot Oden who fell for Orochi and Kaido's trick:


So it is no problem that all those characters have CoC but when it comes to the Admirals, apparently that is going too far and they can't have it.

It is also no problem that Zoro has CoC even though he didn't find out until the Elbaf arc:

Gaban who is Sanji's parallel of the Roger Pirates also has CoC:

Both Ray and Gaban have CoC, Zoro who is Ray's parallel has CoC.

But for some reason Sanji himself isn't allowed to have CoC.


Then you have those who are fine with Usopp potentially having CoC even though he has been very lackluster for a very long time.
:usoprice:

Or those who have no problem with box moving Jinbe potentially having CoC.
:jinbewat:

But again Sanji having CoC? Nah get the fuck out of here.:kuzanope:

Like what?:lawsigh:

There is always countless of excuses I see for why the Admirals and Sanji can't have CoC.:ultimoji:

The Admirals are the strongest fighting power of the World Government.

And Sanji is Luffy's Shield and along with Zoro is the wings of the future Pirate King.

I see no problem for the Admirals and Sanji having CoC.:Tou_Cheers:

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The issue is Admiral fans ridiculed people who had ACoC and wanted none of it and even took pride in them being strong without it, but now suddenly they all want it lol.
 
#69
The issue is Admiral fans ridiculed people who had ACoC and wanted none of it and even took pride in them being strong without it, but now suddenly they all want it lol.
Sanji and Law fans have been doing the same honestly. It's funny to see them turn around and suddenly think Conq Haki is the bee's knees.
People don't like to admit it because I get a bad rap here, but I've been on that shit for a while now. I was insisting Sanji would get Conq Haki and that Law would too. And I also said Sakazuki and Issho are guaranteed to get it.
And honestly I feel like this is all because the Yonko and Zoro were the first to get it. Had it been Sakazuki schooling G5 Luffy about Haki and not Kaido, we'd NEVER hear the end of it. I mean his fans went nuts just hearing about his Cross Guild bounty lol
 
#71
Shanks - Wanting to be a fun pirate
Whitebeard - Wanting a family
Oden - Wanting to travel
Katakuri - Having no ambition at all
It would be incredibly naive right now to say that we really understand Shanks.

Whitebeard was the rival of Roger and strongest man in the world. Both Ed and Ace believed that they could make someone else the king of pirates through their ambition, which isn't really less than wanting to be king in terms of scope even if it's not personal gain.

Oden wanted to open the borders of Wano. Considering the hundreds of years prior and the decades since, it's pretty silly to downplay the size of his goal.

Katakuri kinda shit the bed, sure. But that's exceptional.
 
#72
The suicidal crying drunk Kaido:

The Fat Childish Big Mom who got flipped over by Jinbe and rolled away by Robin:

The Deranged Oden Wannabe who can't be her own character:

Kid who got confirmed to have CoC but never once used it during the Wano arc:

Imu the supposed final villain of the series who was shaking in his shadowy boots over Joy Boy's CoC:

The idiot Oden who fell for Orochi and Kaido's trick:


So it is no problem that all those characters have CoC but when it comes to the Admirals, apparently that is going too far and they can't have it.

It is also no problem that Zoro has CoC even though he didn't find out until the Elbaf arc:

Gaban who is Sanji's parallel of the Roger Pirates also has CoC:

Both Ray and Gaban have CoC, Zoro who is Ray's parallel has CoC.

But for some reason Sanji himself isn't allowed to have CoC.


Then you have those who are fine with Usopp potentially having CoC even though he has been very lackluster for a very long time.
:usoprice:

Or those who have no problem with box moving Jinbe potentially having CoC.
:jinbewat:

But again Sanji having CoC? Nah get the fuck out of here.:kuzanope:

Like what?:lawsigh:

There is always countless of excuses I see for why the Admirals and Sanji can't have CoC.:ultimoji:

The Admirals are the strongest fighting power of the World Government.

And Sanji is Luffy's Shield and along with Zoro is the wings of the future Pirate King.

I see no problem for the Admirals and Sanji having CoC.:Tou_Cheers:

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Lets say they all have CoC. What changes? Kizaru has a kingly ambition to be the strongest food-deliverymen?

GB has the kingly ambition to be the strongest akainu-fanboymen?

Atleast Fujitora shows he wants to make change, but he's fat. You'd think he would be able to conquer his gambling addiction and eating habits.

Aokiji and Akainu atleast you can say have ambitions too, it's natural they clashed, and even after Aokiji lost he just pursued his ambitions another way.

I think Aokiji, Akainu and Fujitora having CoC makes most sense.

Kizaru literally wants people to make decisions for him so he doesn't have to take on responsibility for his actions, and now he's a broken man, even if he has coc his entire philosophy if u can even call it that stems from weak minded-ness, he literally wants to be an object pointed in whatever direction to cause damage, then cries about it when it's personal to him, fuck that guy he's a bitch. Maybe he should've turned into a pacifista, but for some reason he wants to cling to his humanity with his weak hypocritical ideals.

At least GB said he's down to fight the rhp under better circumstances, but even then he's just a celestial wannabe lapdog at the end of the day just like sengoku. CoC is not even impressive at this point, what's more impressive is aura which Lizaru and LB don't have. Not even a black blade could give gb aura, the sword don't make the man and definitely GB stole that shit if it was even true.

Also GB's best feat is capturing a retarded child with retard strength. Good job.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#74
Shanks - Wanting to be a fun pirate
Whitebeard - Wanting a family
Oden - Wanting to travel
Katakuri - Having no ambition at all
Shanks - maintain the balance of the world using his strength

Wb - wanting to protect his family with his strength

Oden - wanting to make the strongest sword style with his strength

Kata - again wants to protect his family with his strength
 
#75
It would be incredibly naive right now to say that we really understand Shanks.

Whitebeard was the rival of Roger and strongest man in the world. Both Ed and Ace believed that they could make someone else the king of pirates through their ambition, which isn't really less than wanting to be king in terms of scope even if it's not personal gain.

Oden wanted to open the borders of Wano. Considering the hundreds of years prior and the decades since, it's pretty silly to downplay the size of his goal.

Katakuri kinda shit the bed, sure. But that's exceptional.
Shanks said last chapter what his desire was, to be a fun loving Pirate with Buggy.

Whitebeard didn’t want to be King And had conquerors long before Ace came around.

Oden didn’t want that until long after awakening CoC.

None of these characters had an ambition when they had CoC.
 
#76
Shanks - maintain the balance of the world using his strength

Wb - wanting to protect his family with his strength

Oden - wanting to make the strongest sword style with his strength

Kata - again wants to protect his family with his strength
So you think Sanji wanting to protect all women with his strength would be worthy then?
 
#79
Shanks said last chapter what his desire was, to be a fun loving Pirate with Buggy.

Whitebeard didn’t want to be King And had conquerors long before Ace came around.

Oden didn’t want that until long after awakening CoC.

None of these characters had an ambition when they had CoC.
There is absolutely nothing to state that one has to realize their aim before they can awaken. Which is why I brought Ace back into the conversation.

Whitebeard dominated virtually everyone he came across. You focus explicitly on being king without considering the views espoused by those who knew him during Marineford. You can't apply strict definition and revisionist understanding especially if you take up Sanji or the admirals being candidates.

Nah that ain't real. There's been plenty of women he didn't do shit for
Sanji doesn't even protect women, he just wants someone else to do the job for him
 
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