General & Others So now that ist over what are we rating wano act 2, lads?
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Good parts : Queen, BM and Kaido, Kamazo and his Smile, Kid, Apoo revelation to be a bitch till the beginning was nice too.
Bad parts : some Udon parts were boring and sometimes too easy, Hyori I don't like her character so far, she is too much a damsel in distress, her history with Zoro feels a little forced and I don't understand at all that she revealed her identity to Zoro right of the bat for me it is weird beyond anything.
Let's say maybe 6.
It was a set up arc
Bad parts : some Udon parts were boring and sometimes too easy, Hyori I don't like her character so far, she is too much a damsel in distress, her history with Zoro feels a little forced and I don't understand at all that she revealed her identity to Zoro right of the bat for me it is weird beyond anything.
Let's say maybe 6.
It was a set up arc
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6.
It was really cool to see Big Mom in real action this time with her wrecking Queen and fighting equally against Kaido, to see Queen's antics, it was also nice to get informations on advanced Coa, on Onigashima, the Beast Pirates and on Apoo's betrayal and to see Kid and Killer again. It's also nice to see the alliance making progresses in their plans and recruitment.
However the plot in Udon was really boring at several reprises and it was too long imo, Hiyori revealed her true indentity and personnality too soon, I find it that Ashura Douji rejoined the alliance a bit too easely and while it's really cool in itself Kaido and Big Mom allying with each other despite everything that happened between them earlier in this arc and without given us real reasons to ally feels like an asspull.
It was really cool to see Big Mom in real action this time with her wrecking Queen and fighting equally against Kaido, to see Queen's antics, it was also nice to get informations on advanced Coa, on Onigashima, the Beast Pirates and on Apoo's betrayal and to see Kid and Killer again. It's also nice to see the alliance making progresses in their plans and recruitment.
However the plot in Udon was really boring at several reprises and it was too long imo, Hiyori revealed her true indentity and personnality too soon, I find it that Ashura Douji rejoined the alliance a bit too easely and while it's really cool in itself Kaido and Big Mom allying with each other despite everything that happened between them earlier in this arc and without given us real reasons to ally feels like an asspull.
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7/10
good parts: Luffy adv CoA/Yasu death/Killer and Kid/Law and Hawkins/Stealth black/Zoro with Enma/Big Mom and Kaido alliance/Komurasaki/Queen and Grandpa Hyo/Kawamatsu
bad parts: Hiyori and forced relationship with Zoro (felt unnatural)/Ashura joining of allaince just like that/Shinobu/some parts of Udon
good parts: Luffy adv CoA/Yasu death/Killer and Kid/Law and Hawkins/Stealth black/Zoro with Enma/Big Mom and Kaido alliance/Komurasaki/Queen and Grandpa Hyo/Kawamatsu
bad parts: Hiyori and forced relationship with Zoro (felt unnatural)/Ashura joining of allaince just like that/Shinobu/some parts of Udon
7.
My biggest problem with Act 2 is the wonky pacing. Some parts were really fast, while others were slow. I can't fully judge some of the characters like Kyoshiro, Hiyori and Orochi, as their story is still incomplete, but the guys we did get to know of well can. But a little on Hiyori, I don't know what Oda is going for with her. Her character is so inconsistent.
Kawamatsu is my favorite scabbard. He's friendly, fierce, loyal and a bit of a goof. His story was straight forward, but endearing. I think when it came to just making lovable characters who suffered, Kawamatsu takes it the best. Ashura started out strong, but his story was too abrupt and now he's just idling as background noise. I thought his flashback was great in theory, but Oda just glossed over it.
For other characters, Hyogoro was a complimenting contrast to Luffy during Udon. Yes, I enjoyed Udon a lot, and thought they kept One Piece's light hearted charm during a time when the rest of the arc was pretty somber. I enjoy seeing characters try and improve and that's what Udon was for, while also introducing some electrifying characters like Queen, and a reintroduction to Kid.
Speaking of Queen, he's probably the best Calamity, character wise. He's a powerful character, but Oda isn't afraid of putting him in silly situations and even acting like pal with his subordinates. Not much on King, but he is giving off major Katakuri vibes, so far.
I am very disappointed in how under-utilized the crew outside Luffy and Zoro are, but I can kinda understand, since Oda has to try and flesh out the new characters while keeping Luffy and Zoro in the limelight as they will have the biggest role during the war. Hopefully the other Strawhats start getting shine moving on to Act 3 and beyond. There's also Law, and his little subplot that's gonna be a game changer for whatever side.
Act 2 served its purpose and the motions for Act 3, but I enjoyed Act 1 a little more. Act 2 did its job, but it felt like Oda was really struggling with managing the cast, which led to wonky pacing and bloated components. Act 1 was so much more concise, if far less rewarding.
My biggest problem with Act 2 is the wonky pacing. Some parts were really fast, while others were slow. I can't fully judge some of the characters like Kyoshiro, Hiyori and Orochi, as their story is still incomplete, but the guys we did get to know of well can. But a little on Hiyori, I don't know what Oda is going for with her. Her character is so inconsistent.
Kawamatsu is my favorite scabbard. He's friendly, fierce, loyal and a bit of a goof. His story was straight forward, but endearing. I think when it came to just making lovable characters who suffered, Kawamatsu takes it the best. Ashura started out strong, but his story was too abrupt and now he's just idling as background noise. I thought his flashback was great in theory, but Oda just glossed over it.
For other characters, Hyogoro was a complimenting contrast to Luffy during Udon. Yes, I enjoyed Udon a lot, and thought they kept One Piece's light hearted charm during a time when the rest of the arc was pretty somber. I enjoy seeing characters try and improve and that's what Udon was for, while also introducing some electrifying characters like Queen, and a reintroduction to Kid.
Speaking of Queen, he's probably the best Calamity, character wise. He's a powerful character, but Oda isn't afraid of putting him in silly situations and even acting like pal with his subordinates. Not much on King, but he is giving off major Katakuri vibes, so far.
I am very disappointed in how under-utilized the crew outside Luffy and Zoro are, but I can kinda understand, since Oda has to try and flesh out the new characters while keeping Luffy and Zoro in the limelight as they will have the biggest role during the war. Hopefully the other Strawhats start getting shine moving on to Act 3 and beyond. There's also Law, and his little subplot that's gonna be a game changer for whatever side.
Act 2 served its purpose and the motions for Act 3, but I enjoyed Act 1 a little more. Act 2 did its job, but it felt like Oda was really struggling with managing the cast, which led to wonky pacing and bloated components. Act 1 was so much more concise, if far less rewarding.
8
Setup "arc". But we get also fights like BM vs Queen and then Kaido, hype on both sides, yonko allaiance, Enma, adavanced CoA, raid suit; good feel moments like Yasu or the Ebisu village in general, the one I liked the most was the fox-Gyukimaru. We know more on Zoro's past and also love how that was sidelined despite being family info on Zoro. More infos on swords, plot deepens, traitors still floating in the air, what are the numbers. Very solid, of course 8 for Oda standards.
Setup "arc". But we get also fights like BM vs Queen and then Kaido, hype on both sides, yonko allaiance, Enma, adavanced CoA, raid suit; good feel moments like Yasu or the Ebisu village in general, the one I liked the most was the fox-Gyukimaru. We know more on Zoro's past and also love how that was sidelined despite being family info on Zoro. More infos on swords, plot deepens, traitors still floating in the air, what are the numbers. Very solid, of course 8 for Oda standards.
I’m giving it a bit of a lower rating: 5
It’s a set up arc, I get it but overall, it felt lacking. First, Hiyori x Zoro was too forced, the plot line didn’t intrigue me particularly and was sometimes too boring (ex. Udon). So many things were too convenient (ex. Collecting the swords)
A lot of characters introduced and too much info dump, I really miss the main crew!
Nonetheless, it still has its ups like Kaidou Linlin alliance, Kamazou, Kidd, Apoo’s betrayal, Law’s motives and the traitor plot line
Hopefully this act will all be worth it for the upcoming one!
It’s a set up arc, I get it but overall, it felt lacking. First, Hiyori x Zoro was too forced, the plot line didn’t intrigue me particularly and was sometimes too boring (ex. Udon). So many things were too convenient (ex. Collecting the swords)
A lot of characters introduced and too much info dump, I really miss the main crew!
Nonetheless, it still has its ups like Kaidou Linlin alliance, Kamazou, Kidd, Apoo’s betrayal, Law’s motives and the traitor plot line
Hopefully this act will all be worth it for the upcoming one!
925-937: good chapters, they are not perfect because of the offpanelled situation but the pace isn't slow and every strawhat does something usefull. Moreover Luffy isn't in every single chapter doing nothing. I'd give this part a 7 out of 10
938-949: Yasu's execution is too fast, Luffy-focused chapters are boring as hell and the most interesting part (the capital situation) was completely offpanelled. The smile's story, Killer situation and some panels of Queen vs Big Mom are interesting but the rest
I'd say 4 out of 10.
950-955: The few cool panels of Kaido and Big Mom are not enough to let me appreciate this part. The strawhats are once again doing nothing except for Zoro and the conclusion of this act seems too rushed. Law was captured and freed in 3 chapters
Enma is an interesting PU but he has come a bit out of nowhere. 5.5 out of 10.
So act 2 is a 5.5 for me
938-949: Yasu's execution is too fast, Luffy-focused chapters are boring as hell and the most interesting part (the capital situation) was completely offpanelled. The smile's story, Killer situation and some panels of Queen vs Big Mom are interesting but the rest
I'd say 4 out of 10.950-955: The few cool panels of Kaido and Big Mom are not enough to let me appreciate this part. The strawhats are once again doing nothing except for Zoro and the conclusion of this act seems too rushed. Law was captured and freed in 3 chapters
Enma is an interesting PU but he has come a bit out of nowhere. 5.5 out of 10.
So act 2 is a 5.5 for me
