Powers & Abilities So Oden never had this CoC?

[Kishido]

This and black blades now.

We know he had CoC but never displayed that stuff on panel as far as I remember

 

[HA001]

This and black blades now.

We know he had CoC but never displayed that stuff on panel as far as I remember

He cut kaido with acoc. Imo

 

[Kishido]

He cut kaido with acoc. Imo

Really must rewatch it. But why was he so surprised by Oden and WB?

 

[HA001]

Really must rewatch it. But why was he so surprised by Oden and WB?

He fought kaido 6 years later.
So he probably learned it.
But the way coc hits deeper I think it's clear he used it.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Really must rewatch it. But why was he so surprised by Oden and WB?

That was like 6 years before he fought Kaido... I can assume after seeing Roger and Whitebeard, 6 years are enough for him to pick up what they were doing

 

[Chrono]

Yh he cut Kaido with CoC. Probably learnt it from Roger and WB.

 

[Finalbeta]

He more probably had this type of CoC, at least Kaido said "you also have the color of the conqueror" to Luffy, not sure how much he knew about it. Not just for that either way, but given how potent his slashes were.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

He most like had adv CoC since he could scare and leave a big scar to Kaido.
Would make sense that he learn it from Roger and became stronger.

 

[sanjikun]

Kaido's Ragnarok showed that your weapon can still land on someone while using CoC.

 

[draganax]

he always had it, but he was using it without knowing like zoro did, cuz CoC is just a special trick in wano

 

[HA001]

Odens togen totska was acoc. That's how he cut so deep

 

[D.Querna]

He had never left the island, it is clear that he only had the basics of haki or at least that of wa no. He learned it later.

 

[Patryipe]

Kaido's Ragnarok showed that your weapon can still land on someone while using CoC.

So now we are assuming that CoC attacks can happen also when nothing visually indicates them. EDIT: obviously I'm referring to Oden's attack, not to Ragnarok.

Great...

We're basically back to preskip with invisible haki.

What a complete mess of a system from Oda.

 

[Salah WG]

I noticed that many Readers think Oden is the same in every Scene
His Flashback shows his Progress, Oden has been always getting Stronger

Oden who Scarred Kaido > Oden who Clashed with Roger > Oden who Clashed with WB > Oden who Defeated Ashura > Oden who Killed that Pig

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Imo he didn't have it.........but he could have it as there was 6 years gap after WB-Roger clash

 

[thedarkdragon11]

You only need CoA + CoC to scar Kaido from the surface...

You need Advanced CoA + Advanced CoC to hurt him deep...

There's a reason why Oden can't cut the Barrier...

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

He did. Kaido commented at first that he thought the scabbards were using the same kind of Ryou that Oden was. But then realized it was different by proclaiming their cuts were too shallow.

Luffy was damaging Kaido with Ryou, but commented that the attacks were still too shallow.

Queue AdCoC and Luffy's punches started doing way more damage.

 

[humanbeing]

Oden has CoC haki , Ashura Doji confirmed that as he saw Luffy using it.

 

[sanjikun]

So now we are assuming that CoC attacks can happen also when nothing visually indicates them. EDIT: obviously I'm referring to Oden's attack, not to Ragnarok.

Great...

We're basically back to preskip with invisible haki.

What a complete mess of a system from Oda.

Pretty much. Luffy outright stated Kaido used CoC and Kaido clearly made contact with that club.

 

[Garps tekkai]

So now we are assuming that CoC attacks can happen also when nothing visually indicates them. EDIT: obviously I'm referring to Oden's attack, not to Ragnarok.

Great...

We're basically back to preskip with invisible haki.

What a complete mess of a system from Oda.

The visuals seem to be present in the paradise Totsuka panel though. There is the same black lightning following the trajectory of Oden's attack.
Those for example weren't present when he cut that mountain god back then.

Imo Oda probably just did not show the actual execution of paraside Totsuka in order to not spoil that concept and the fact that it's required for defeating Kaido, which is comprehensible.