General & Others So, this whole ''lineage factor'' stuff was just Oda´s way to introduce '' genetic superiority'' that every shonen MC needs to have

[CensoredbyWG]

Naruto was underdog and by the end of the series, he became the reincarnation of a god while also being the son of two WAY above average individuals.

Ichigo became the series as a human and by the end of the first sternritter invasion, we discover he was NEVER human.

Natsu also had superior genetics by the end of the series.

Goku... Enough said.

Gon is the son of a 3 stars hunter which provided him superior genetics and network.

Luffy literally became a copy of all other MCs, i remember vividly about how one piece fans used to clown naruto and bleach fans for the retcon on their origins and ''chosen one'' backgrounds only to see the same thing happening to luffy.

Right now luffy is just another generical MC with chosen one superior genetics retconning his background, remember when luffy was respected for using his supposedly weak devil fruit to it´s maximum extent with his battle IQ and creativity?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Unlike those MCs, Luffy actually knows how to use his power to the fullest potential. Having an overpowered devil fruit doesn't mean shit if you don't know how to use it.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Unlike those MCs, Luffy actually knows how to use his power to the fullest potential. Having an overpowered devil fruit doesn't mean shit if you don't know how to use it.

All devil fruit users who happen to be relevant also have OP fruits, there isn´t a single guy with a weak devil fruit that happens to be strong solely cause of the fruit, i´m not including haki here.

 

[Infitima]

Ichigo's still the worst one. Every single time a race, power, or new thing was introduced he was somehow either part of it or had it. Shinigami, Fullbring... when they said he was a Quincy, I dropped the series. I never found out if he was also part god key.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Ichigo's still the worst one. Every single time a race, power, or new thing was introduced he was somehow either part of it or had it. Shinigami, Fullbring... when they said he was a Quincy, I dropped the series. I never found out if he was also part god key.

He was never human at all lol, kubo´s strengths were character´s designs and his creativity on giving names to abilities, when it came to working with them he failed miserably sidelining 3 out of the 5 main characters of the show for entire sagas just to focus on ichigo.

 

[BattalGazi]

Unlike those MCs, Luffy actually knows how to use his power to the fullest potential. Having an overpowered devil fruit doesn't mean shit if you don't know how to use it.

How can a person be weak with a mythical zoan, stop bullshitting.

 

[Kiiro]

Naruto went from 1 tier to several tiers above with his PU's, literally became a god. Luffy is still ok

 

[CensoredbyWG]

How can a person be weak with a mythical zoan, stop bullshitting.

Truth be told, orochi was fodder despite having a mythical zoan.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

All devil fruit users who happen to be relevant also have OP fruits, there isn´t a single guy with a weak devil fruit that happens to be strong solely cause of the fruit, i´m not including haki here.

Because all the guys with weak fruits are just happens to be bozos that they don't know how to use their powers properly.

Moria was actually pretty strong and his DF isn't really the best either.

How can a person be weak with a mythical zoan, stop bullshitting.

A mythical zoan can still be weak without using the power to the fullest potential, says, Marco. If Marco only uses his phoenix power just to fly and fight without healing, do you think he's strong? Of course not. His healing factor is his biggest strength.

 

[Onepiecedying]

Being grandson of marine hero,
Son of the most wanted man
Member of family of D
Have the fiction god fruit
Have the strongest power to make everyone like you despite you are not that a really good person
Never has any consequence of your action
Possessed the power of nakama which is the strongest power any shonen character can have like natsu and erza


Yeah its suck to become one pice fans right know

 

[Infitima]

He was never human at all lol, kubo´s strengths were character´s designs and his creativity on giving names to abilities, when it came to working with them he failed miserably sidelining 3 out of the 5 main characters of the show for entire sagas just to focus on ichigo.

Exactly. At least it's not that level. Oda's not coming and being like "Oh yeah Luffy also has some Fishman ancestry, and a grandmother that's a giant, oh some mink in there too." I can't believe Kubo pulled that BS.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Ichigo's still the worst one. Every single time a race, power, or new thing was introduced he was somehow either part of it or had it. Shinigami, Fullbring... when they said he was a Quincy, I dropped the series. I never found out if he was also part god key.

Finally, another person with great mind.:cheers:

Ichigo was cool until he got all those races. Absolutely dogshit of a MC.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Being grandson of marine hero,
Son of the most wanted man
Member of family of D
Have the fiction god fruit
Have the strongest power to make everyone like you despite you are not that a really good person
Never has any consequence of your action
Possessed the power of nakama which is the strongest power any shonen character can have like natsu and erza


Yeah its suck to become one pice fans right know

I wish i followed this series before luffy became a literal god with toon force reality warping powers.

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Exactly. At least it's not that level. Oda's not coming and being like "Oh yeah Luffy also has some Fishman ancestry, and a grandmother that's a giant, oh some mink in there too." I can't believe Kubo pulled that BS.

I´m calling it now: Luffy´s mother is from an special race.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

The problem with all those other series, is all that bullshit came out of nowhere. Naruto especially, when 90 percent of the story built up "with hard work and determination you can achieve anything".

With One Piece, we've known for 20+ years that Luffy and the Straw Hats were destined to change the World. We learned that when they exited the Twin Capes, and first set foot on the Grand line. From there Oda made it more and more apparent as the series went on. It's not new. It's never been vague. It's been in the face of the audience for decades.

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Luffy - Grandson of the Hero of the Marines; Son of the leader of the RA; Family of D.; Power holder of Nika fruit (Nika's lineage factor?)

Garbage.

 

[L55]

The problem with all those other series, is all that bullshit came out of nowhere

Lmfao if u think oda planned nika fruit
Op fans man

 

[HA001]

What was gokus inherited bullshit ?
Man was born to a low class warrior

 

[SkySanji]

What was gokus inherited bullshit ?
Man was born to a low class warrior

Saiyan genetics, most broken shit ever, get a million times stronger when you're about to die lol

 

[HA001]

Saiyan genetics, most broken shit ever, get a million times stronger when you're about to die lol

Every single one of them has that though.
And his power level as a baby was dog shit iirc

 

[Marimo_420]

Ichigo doesn't matter because he didn't have a set goal. He was a free slate so him being op from the start was whatever. No problem with him being strong.




For Naruto it was a problem because he was meant to be the underdog with zero talent yet turned out to be the most obnoxiously talented retard who is a reincarnation of God himself. His whole character did a 180.



While Luffy being strong isnt the problem . The problem is that he dreams of being the freest person to roam the seas, yet is a slave to the Nika Nika fruit and it's own goals.