Speculations So Uhhh… Did Kaido Duck Harald? What about Kizaru?

[DJOMOLO]

No point arguing with you retards but hey I'll bite. Harald definetly got weaker both mentally and physically after that incident with Xebec. Shit is so fucking evident due to the fact that this incident probably caused him to remove his horns (a symbolic gesture that means he probably stopped fighting or engaging in any violent acts). I mean, bruh, Harald got sneaked and stabbed by fodder giants back at his castle. Do you really think Kaido would want to fight that? You fucking moron? Kaido ain't ducking shit, he just doesnt fight fights not worth fucking fighting while simultaneously building up his fucking empire to wage one big war with the world and claim the One Piece. Learn to fucking read.

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Also, Kaido doesnt want to just die. He wants an honorable death. No, jumping into the ocean isn't honorable. He treats suicide as a hobby, not as an actual way to kill himself. It's just a quirk of his. If he actually wanted to kill himself, he wouldn't have teamed up with big mom to claim the One Piece

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Kaido continues to be disgustingly misinterpreted. Can't blame yall though, Oda could have done a way better job to characterize him. Not everything needs to be spoonfed though, Holy shit.

 

[The DevilMaster]

Harald being alive and in his prime during Kaido's reign really takes a hit on Harald. Kaido's portrayal is too strong, both within the manga and secondary sources (SBS, narrator notes, etc.).

- The world's strongest creature
- Island of the strongest (chapter title)
- Embodiment of might (Kurozumi hag)

etc. It was with the world being aware of Harald.

Yes, you just proved that a guy like Xebec isn’t stronger than Prime Kaidou, and that’s all we needed until now. Prime Harald was placed by the world as inferior to Kaidou, and he was equal to Xebec. Kaidou’s portrayal shits on anyone from the old generation. @MonsterKaido @nik87 @Hanzo hattori @Levi @SkySanji

 

[Blax Blah]

Harald being alive and in his prime during Kaido's reign really takes a hit on Harald. Kaido's portrayal is too strong, both within the manga and secondary sources (SBS, narrator notes, etc.).

- The world's strongest creature
- Island of the strongest (chapter title)
- Embodiment of might (Kurozumi hag)

etc. It was with the world being aware of Harald.

Well I mean imo Oden was defeating Kaido with not much difficulty so this must mean Rocks was a lot stronger when GV happened

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No point arguing with you retards but hey I'll bite. Harald definetly got weaker both mentally and physically after that incident with Xebec. Shit is so fucking evident due to the fact that this incident probably caused him to remove his horns (a symbolic gesture that means he probably stopped fighting or engaging in any violent acts). I mean, bruh, Harald got sneaked and stabbed by fodder giants back at his castle. Do you really think Kaido would want to fight that? You fucking moron? Kaido ain't ducking shit, he just doesnt fight fights not worth fucking fighting while simultaneously building up his fucking empire to wage one big war with the world and claim the One Piece. Learn to fucking read.

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 6:24 PM

Also, Kaido doesnt want to just die. He wants an honorable death. No, jumping into the ocean isn't honorable. He treats suicide as a hobby, not as an actual way to kill himself. It's just a quirk of his. If he actually wanted to kill himself, he wouldn't have teamed up with big mom to claim the One Piece

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 6:26 PM

Kaido continues to be disgustingly misinterpreted. Can't blame yall though, Oda could have done a way better job to characterize him. Not everything needs to be spoonfed though, Holy shit.

Maybe Rocks just got stronger instead

 

[comrade]

Well I mean imo Oden was defeating Kaido with not much difficulty so this must mean Rocks was a lot stronger when GV happened

Oden and base Kaido equally clashed in Orochi's base. Their final fight was circumstantial, as Kaido made himself into a great target for Oden's strongest move. Oden vs. hybrid Kaido would've been a completely different outcome.

Yes, you just proved that a guy like Xebec isn’t stronger than Prime Kaidou, and that’s all we needed until now. Prime Harald was placed by the world as inferior to Kaidou, and he was equal to Xebec. Kaidou’s portrayal shits on anyone from the old generation. @MonsterKaido @nik87 @Hanzo hattori @Levi @SkySanji

No wonder Whitebeard ducked Kaido after hearing he killed his beloved brother Oden and enslaved his country. It was the same reason the WG ducked Kaido and didn't conquer Wano. That thing is not something you can defeat.

 

[Steven]

Yes, you just proved that a guy like Xebec isn’t stronger than Prime Kaidou, and that’s all we needed until now. Prime Harald was placed by the world as inferior to Kaidou, and he was equal to Xebec. Kaidou’s portrayal shits on anyone from the old generation. @MonsterKaido @nik87 @Hanzo hattori @Levi @SkySanji

 

[Monkey D Theories]

At this point, I’m convinced Kaido bribed Morgans to spread his “always bet on Kaido” rumor.

This rumor legit makes no sense when he’s lost numerous times in the past and the strongest dude he supposedly beat was Roger’s #3

 

[Blax Blah]

Oden and base Kaido equally clashed in Orochi's base. Their final fight was circumstantial, as Kaido made himself into a great target for Oden's strongest move. Oden vs. hybrid Kaido would've been a completely different outcome.


No wonder Whitebeard ducked Kaido after hearing he killed his beloved brother Oden and enslaved his country. It was the same reason the WG ducked Kaido and didn't conquer Wano. That thing is not something you can defeat.

Maybe but I mean I would say that depends on if Kaido was serious or not

Like if Kaido was in base but actually was using his haki without holding back, him not going hybrid doesn't matter much, he was still yonko level

But if he was holding back like he was against Luffy, yeah it is a problem

I just choose to interpret it as Oden was defeating full power Kaido in a few moves

Just like Kaido vs Big Mom were equal but neither used their full fruit forms

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At this point, I’m convinced Kaido bribed Morgans to spread his “always bet on Kaido” rumor.

This rumor legit makes no sense when he’s lost numerous times in the past and the strongest dude he supposedly beat was Roger’s #3

Well Kaido was the strongest in the mid gen, not the old gen

 

[nik87]

Yes, you just proved that a guy like Xebec isn’t stronger than Prime Kaidou, and that’s all we needed until now. Prime Harald was placed by the world as inferior to Kaidou, and he was equal to Xebec. Kaidou’s portrayal shits on anyone from the old generation. @MonsterKaido @nik87 @Hanzo hattori @Levi @SkySanji

Embodiment of might for a reason, in their very era. King wasnt joking when he told Kaido to keep being the strongest. Only copium and agendabros are performing mental gymnastics bcs of this.

 

[comrade]

This rumor legit makes no sense when he’s lost numerous times in the past

It's actually the other way around. The fact Oda mentioned how Kaido was captured and defeated numerous times in the past in the very introduction where Kaido was called the world's strongest you should bet on in a 1 on 1 actually means that Kaido losing in the past doesn't disprove his status at his prime.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Kaido still is king of feats for a reason. Quote me when anyone shows attack on flame bagua level.