Speculations So Uhhh… Did Kaido Duck Harald? What about Kizaru?
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Arlong: The strongest pirate in the entire East Blue, even feared more than "Bounty Hunter" Zoro
Crocodile: Luffy lost 2 times against him and even made his crewmates doubting him
Enel: Treated as a god throughout the whole arc, fodderized anyone, even Wyper and Zoro
Lucci : Strongest CP9 agent history, hyped up by everyone and their mother at Water 7/Ennies Lobby and even beyond that
Doffy: Had Law shit his pants and several flashbacks dedicated to portraying him as the mighty Usupator
Thing is, unlike with the others, where Oda delivered but hasn't gone overboard that much with hyping them up prior to that, he's blown things completely out of propotion for Kaido.
He hyped him up as the arguably strongest being and left us with hostage diffing Oden, hiding in Wano for decades and not a single feat or statement coming outside from Wano, from a reliable source to back up the hype.
The times he was captured could have easily been written in a way to hype him up, but it was never brought up against after his introduction..
Even Kaido trying to join the Marineford war wasn't leaving him in a good light at all, when he was stopped by Shanks. Obviously there is more to it since Shanks wasn't even scratched, but it's just another missed opportunity, ultimately leaving us readers with mixed feelings instead of the feeling of "wow, this man surely is the strongest being"
Crocodile: Luffy lost 2 times against him and even made his crewmates doubting him
Enel: Treated as a god throughout the whole arc, fodderized anyone, even Wyper and Zoro
Lucci : Strongest CP9 agent history, hyped up by everyone and their mother at Water 7/Ennies Lobby and even beyond that
Doffy: Had Law shit his pants and several flashbacks dedicated to portraying him as the mighty Usupator
Thing is, unlike with the others, where Oda delivered but hasn't gone overboard that much with hyping them up prior to that, he's blown things completely out of propotion for Kaido.
He hyped him up as the arguably strongest being and left us with hostage diffing Oden, hiding in Wano for decades and not a single feat or statement coming outside from Wano, from a reliable source to back up the hype.
The times he was captured could have easily been written in a way to hype him up, but it was never brought up against after his introduction..
Even Kaido trying to join the Marineford war wasn't leaving him in a good light at all, when he was stopped by Shanks. Obviously there is more to it since Shanks wasn't even scratched, but it's just another missed opportunity, ultimately leaving us readers with mixed feelings instead of the feeling of "wow, this man surely is the strongest being"
Bit of a tinfoil theory but IMO he did this for G5.
He wanted G5 to be Luffy's SSJ/UI and Kaido to be the Frieza/Jiren for it. So he did the same thing Toriyama did with those two and hyped Kaido as potentially the strongest.
Except unlike Tori who pretty much just went ahead with powercreep after that, Oda just never commited to Kaido being #1, hence all the phrasing of his title as in-universe rumours so as to keep it open ended.
So the result is that you have this mixed portrayal of Kaido where he's like Schrodinger's Top 1 because there's so much inconsistency.
IMO Oda should have left the "Strongest" title to WB and let Kaido just be the "Unkillable" who is not the strongest necessarily but is potentially the most dangerous because his body can withstand and survive things even other top tiers couldn't.
He'd be like the embodiment of that one Buu saga moment where Kid Buu is terrified of Vegeta because the latter just wouldn't go down.
So essentially just lean completely in to his first intro part where it mentions that he fought and was captured by X and Y but nobody could take him down.
He wanted G5 to be Luffy's SSJ/UI and Kaido to be the Frieza/Jiren for it. So he did the same thing Toriyama did with those two and hyped Kaido as potentially the strongest.
Except unlike Tori who pretty much just went ahead with powercreep after that, Oda just never commited to Kaido being #1, hence all the phrasing of his title as in-universe rumours so as to keep it open ended.
So the result is that you have this mixed portrayal of Kaido where he's like Schrodinger's Top 1 because there's so much inconsistency.
IMO Oda should have left the "Strongest" title to WB and let Kaido just be the "Unkillable" who is not the strongest necessarily but is potentially the most dangerous because his body can withstand and survive things even other top tiers couldn't.
He'd be like the embodiment of that one Buu saga moment where Kid Buu is terrified of Vegeta because the latter just wouldn't go down.
So essentially just lean completely in to his first intro part where it mentions that he fought and was captured by X and Y but nobody could take him down.
