Questions & Mysteries So who will be Elbaph's villain?

#21
Nah, I’m heavily doubting Loki as a villain. He’s far from the first character to have a bad reputation, but still end up a good guy. That’s the background for most of the Strawhats tbh.

Look at what we have with Loki

-before the arc began, we are told he was in love with Lola. If that is true, then that’s a point in Loki’s favour. Lola is ugly, but she has a good personality. It’s suggesting that Loki cares not about the surface, but about the personality.

-Gerd says that Road is more of the shame of Elbaf than Loki is. That’s the first mention of him in the arc. I find that an odd thing to say. Road isn’t really a bad guy, he’s just a bit of a freak. So to me, immediately comparing the supposed Prince of Darkness to someone else as worse, and that other person not really being so bad... doesn’t set up Loki as someone wholly bad.

-His main sin is that he killed Harald. Seems pretty clear that with the latest chapter, the Celestial Dragons visiting Harald’s grave and the lack of witnesses, that there’s far more to this story than meets the eye. All the other stories of his past remind me very much of Oden’s reputation as a youth. I doubt that Loki’s pranks are him trying to do good, but I do suspect it’s just him doing things that get a bit out of hand.

-he’s judged from birth the same way Hajrudin is, but for a different reason. There’s a prophecy about him- Loki can’t help that. The year he was born was a shitshow for Elbaf- Loki can’t help that. Seems to me that a target was painted on his back from the beginning. Might be that he’s just loving up to the reputation created for him

-he’s friendly with animals, and Luffy becomes friends with those animals as well. The animals are willing to fight for him. That’s not a trait I think Oda will associate with truly bad guys.

-the whole thing where he gets angry when his mysterious freind says that Loki’s angry words just hide his kindness. That’s shouting that there’s some misunderstood parts of his personality, and a lot of what he does is covering that up

-like Kid, another Tsundere bad reputation ally, he can tell the true shits of the world are the Celestial Dragons, and that’s a depth he won’t sink to. Note that Loki does want to be free... but that he still refuses to join them and help them take Elbaf. So Loki has some moral standards

-the entire thing about Luffy, Zoro, Gaban and freeing him. It’s one thing Luffy, being a cheerful and naive (but also good judge of character) trusting him, but Zoro and Gaban also really didn’t take much convincing to release him. Now, Gaban seemingly actually knows Loki. If he’s as evil as Elbaf thinks he is, I doubt he’d be cheerfully letting him loose. Which he basically did. And Zoro is far more suspicious than Luffy is, but he’s went through with it. After all, Zoro has first hand experience that being locked up for being a demon might not be the full story.

Doesn’t rule out him and Luffy having a fight at some point, but having a fight does not make him the main villain.
 
#22
Loki with the 3 God Knights as side dish. And if more God Knights were to arrive then there's no reason for Oda to not introduce them yet.
Doubt Garling or SHamerock are gonna return and obviously they ain't gonna be defeated in the first arc they are introduced
We still have this Messa person that's not into play yet
 
#23
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#28
It's Kidd.

Before we got to Elbaf, I thought it may have been loki. But after the recent chapters, I don't believe we'll ever see Loki fighting the strawhats.

If anything, this strengthens my belief that Kidd will fight luffy. Kidd will want revenge vs the giants/shanks. And also, like I've said countless times on this forum, when Kidd learns of Luffy's relationship with Shanks, that will likely lead to a fight.

Additionally we even have this panel. When has another character been directly compared to joyboy like this? A very strange panel for a "dead" character.



The holy knights will play a role, but i don't believe they'll be the main villians/antagonist.
 
#29
It's Kidd.

Before we got to Elbaf, I thought it may have been loki. But after the recent chapters, I don't believe we'll ever see Loki fighting the strawhats.

If anything, this strengthens my belief that Kidd will fight luffy. Kidd will want revenge vs the giants/shanks. And also, like I've said countless times on this forum, when Kidd learns of Luffy's relationship with Shanks, that will likely lead to a fight.

Additionally we even have this panel. When has another character been directly compared to joyboy like this? A very strange panel for a "dead" character.



The holy knights will play a role, but i don't believe they'll be the main villians/antagonist.
Cheers to you guys never giving up on your boy :BigW:
 
#30
It's Kidd.

Before we got to Elbaf, I thought it may have been loki. But after the recent chapters, I don't believe we'll ever see Loki fighting the strawhats.

If anything, this strengthens my belief that Kidd will fight luffy. Kidd will want revenge vs the giants/shanks. And also, like I've said countless times on this forum, when Kidd learns of Luffy's relationship with Shanks, that will likely lead to a fight.

Additionally we even have this panel. When has another character been directly compared to joyboy like this? A very strange panel for a "dead" character.



The holy knights will play a role, but i don't believe they'll be the main villians/antagonist.
Still think a Kid + Loki team up would be amazing, but forget it since Oda hates Kid.
 

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World's Strongest Swordsman
#32
Safe bet is Shamrock. He’s going to return with potentially more Holy Knights once the current three are beaten.


Wild bet is Saint Sommers will be the main antagonist and this arc won’t be very long.


My gut instinct tells me it’s going to be Enel, who’s been at the very top of Elbaph for some time now.
Starts stupid
Gets stupider
Ends retarded
 
#35
Safe bet is Shamrock. He’s going to return with potentially more Holy Knights once the current three are beaten.


Wild bet is Saint Sommers will be the main antagonist and this arc won’t be very long.


My gut instinct tells me it’s going to be Enel, who’s been at the very top of Elbaph for some time now.
I don´t know if it´s Enel exactly, but we still haven´t visited the Sun world or whatever, so theres a chance the villain will come from there, while Loki is just the top criminal in Elbaf(Aka most important guy in the criminal world of Elbaf)
 
#37
We still do not have a clear idea on who Elbaph's main villain will be. Loki's chances are dropping eith passing chapters, with him taking months to recover even if he recovers partially we aren't going to get a nerfed main villain.

And if he recovers fully by some stupid magic mink medicine Chopper brought, the plot would become retarded, why would you recover fully a guy only to be antsgonistic and a danger to everyone shortly after anyway, Luffy may be dumb but this would make him retarded in a different way.

We have the holy knights, even if they have awakening (from the looks of it) their aura doesn't give "main villain" energy without Shamrock, and now he isn't even here. Killingham and Sommers give off Zoro and Sanji opponents type of aura or some shit, but even then 3 don't feel enough tho Killingham's dream army could serve as the fighting force for the HK to keep others occupied.

Even then it needs more ompf for a main villain, especially if Loki partially recovers he should be more than enough to be trouble for those guys given his hype displayed.

Will Warcury or Garling descent on Elbaph with some other aid to become Elbaph's threat, so Luffy can develop a haki skill to bypass their immortality like Joyboy, and in Warcury's case a defense that goes beyond Kaido even?

Who do you think will be this arc's villain and why?

So far Elbaph's side is stacked:


Straw Hats
Elbaph Giants
Loki (if he isn't a villain, even a partially recovered Loki should be big trouble with the aid of the above)
Gaban
Kuma (if he's able to function), Bonney

Together as a force the guys above are stacked they managed to escape the 5 elders and marine blockade all in tact.

World Gov team:
Killingham
Sommez
Gunko
Killingham's dream monsters
Children hostage situation possibly (to take out Gaban and maybe some giants)
Loki (if he's a villain, but given the reasons above it would be beyond dumb to be a villain)

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Loki
 
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