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Le Fishe D. Tomdou

My pronouns are Fish/Yum
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Is Fujitora a Swordsman? He didn't used any cutting attack and use his DF power with his sword
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@Minatoze Narutomaki @Chaves @Charlotte Horchata @Ninjashadow0209 this question is for you clowns, is Fujitora - a character who doesn't fit your ridiculous standards for being a "pure" swordsman but was intrduce as a swordsman and was based on a character of blind swordsman is a swordsman? Because Don Le Fishe understand from you that Fujitora isn't a true swordaman :josad:
 
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Is Fujitora a Swordsman? He didn't used any cutting attack and use his DF power with his sword
:choppawhat:

@Minatoze Narutomaki @Chaves @Charlotte Horchata @Ninjashadow0209 this question is for you clowns, is Fujitora - a character who doesn't fit your ridiculous standards for being a "pure" swordsman but was intrduce as a swordsman and was based on a character of blind swordsman is a swordsman? Because Don Le Fishe understand from you that Fujitora isn't a true swordaman :josad:
You are the clown here fishy, who dont even want to read plain obvious texts and cling on to your own idea because it doesnt fit Zoro Hype.
@Cyrus the Cactus
@Finalbeta
@HA001
@Rivaille
read the texts of sandman

Marines are talking about who is Worthy of title WSS.
Whose names did they mention ?
Mihawk, Zoro, Shanks, Vista and Ryuma...
by your definitions Akainu also is Swordsman, while Marines mentioned his name and strength, they didnt even consider him in the list,
by your definition Kizaru is swordsman, they didn't mention his name,
and now you Clown Fishy, they didnt even mention Fujitora's name who was present in dressrossa cutting Meteorites and Law too, and BigMom a Yonko
by your definitions they were all swordsmen, but marines didnt even bring Fujitora's name as competitor for title of WSS when they did mention Vista and Zoro
now if you want to ignore this obvious indication that there are those worthy for competing for the title (Pure swordsmen) and there are those who arent worthy of competing (hybrids), you can ignore, but you cant change the facts even if you try for another 20 years :kriwhat:
by my definition, the names mentioned by marines are exactly the worthy competitors for WSS,
Mihawk, Ryuma, Shanks, Vista and Zoro are the Pureswordsmen
Kizaru, Akainu, Fujitora, BigMom, Law are not
 

Finalbeta

Oda's accuser
Pure swordsmen are never cited. Characters either stand as one or not, this is the ultimate juice here.

It's that simple and intuitive. Doesn't really even matter which other styles are featured within the singular character or also how worthy the title is as long as the character is a swordsman.

Obviously titles are relative to the believers and not universal, this is for example why Whitebeard most likely stood as a swordsman as possessor and user of the naginata Murakumogiri, a supreme grade, despite Mihawk stood as WSS in the meantime and yet not WSM but this is basically off topic.
 
You are the clown here fishy, who dont even want to read plain obvious texts and cling on to your own idea because it doesnt fit Zoro Hype.
@Cyrus the Cactus
@Finalbeta
@HA001
@Rivaille
read the texts of sandman

Marines are talking about who is Worthy of title WSS.
Whose names did they mention ?
Mihawk, Zoro, Shanks, Vista and Ryuma...
by your definitions Akainu also is Swordsman, while Marines mentioned his name and strength, they didnt even consider him in the list,
by your definition Kizaru is swordsman, they didn't mention his name,
and now you Clown Fishy, they didnt even mention Fujitora's name who was present in dressrossa cutting Meteorites and Law too, and BigMom a Yonko
by your definitions they were all swordsmen, but marines didnt even bring Fujitora's name as competitor for title of WSS when they did mention Vista and Zoro
now if you want to ignore this obvious indication that there are those worthy for competing for the title (Pure swordsmen) and there are those who arent worthy of competing (hybrids), you can ignore, but you cant change the facts even if you try for another 20 years :kriwhat:
by my definition, the names mentioned by marines are exactly the worthy competitors for WSS,
Mihawk, Ryuma, Shanks, Vista and Zoro are the Pureswordsmen
Kizaru, Akainu, Fujitora, BigMom, Law are not
Read the bottom clown "its not confirmed wether they were supevised by Oda"
 

Le Fishe D. Tomdou

My pronouns are Fish/Yum
You are the clown here fishy, who dont even want to read plain obvious texts and cling on to your own idea because it doesnt fit Zoro Hype.
@Cyrus the Cactus
@Finalbeta
@HA001
@Rivaille
read the texts of sandman

Marines are talking about who is Worthy of title WSS.
Whose names did they mention ?
Mihawk, Zoro, Shanks, Vista and Ryuma...
by your definitions Akainu also is Swordsman, while Marines mentioned his name and strength, they didnt even consider him in the list,
by your definition Kizaru is swordsman, they didn't mention his name,
and now you Clown Fishy, they didnt even mention Fujitora's name who was present in dressrossa cutting Meteorites and Law too, and BigMom a Yonko
by your definitions they were all swordsmen, but marines didnt even bring Fujitora's name as competitor for title of WSS when they did mention Vista and Zoro
now if you want to ignore this obvious indication that there are those worthy for competing for the title (Pure swordsmen) and there are those who arent worthy of competing (hybrids), you can ignore, but you cant change the facts even if you try for another 20 years :kriwhat:
by my definition, the names mentioned by marines are exactly the worthy competitors for WSS,
Mihawk, Ryuma, Shanks, Vista and Zoro are the Pureswordsmen
Kizaru, Akainu, Fujitora, BigMom, Law are not
1) Akainu was a swordsman, he stopped use swordmanship once he got his DF.
2) The fact Fujitora weren't consdired as runner-ups by the fodder Marines doesn't prove anything except that he isn't strong enough to be runner-up for WSS.
Pleb.
 
1) Akainu was a swordsman, he stopped use swordmanship once he got his DF.
2) The fact Fujitora weren't consdired as runner-ups by the fodder Marines doesn't prove anything except that he isn't strong enough to be runner-up for WSS.
Pleb.
a fish's logic, cant expect anything more from you :ihaha:
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Read the bottom clown "its not confirmed wether they were supevised by Oda"
so what is that then ? up until just now nobody had problem with the novel and suddenly its trash ? :pepeke:
what is the novel then, why was it written like that
 

Le Fishe D. Tomdou

My pronouns are Fish/Yum
a fish's logic, cant expect anything more from you :ihaha:
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so what is that then ? up until just now nobody had problem with the novel and suddenly its trash ? :pepeke:
what is the novel then, why was it written like that
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Let's follow your clown logic

- Marine fodders discuss who stronger Zoro or Mihawk
- They dump the names of Shanks, Vista and Ryuma
- They didn't said Fujitora name
- They didn't say whatever Fujitora is a swordsman or not
- Fujitora was intreduce as a swordsman
- Fujitora was based after a swordsman

Conclusion - Fujitora isn't a true swordsman

:seriously:
 
You are the clown here fishy, who dont even want to read plain obvious texts and cling on to your own idea because it doesnt fit Zoro Hype.
@Cyrus the Cactus
@Finalbeta
@HA001
@Rivaille
read the texts of sandman

Marines are talking about who is Worthy of title WSS.
Whose names did they mention ?
Mihawk, Zoro, Shanks, Vista and Ryuma...
by your definitions Akainu also is Swordsman, while Marines mentioned his name and strength, they didnt even consider him in the list,
by your definition Kizaru is swordsman, they didn't mention his name,
and now you Clown Fishy, they didnt even mention Fujitora's name who was present in dressrossa cutting Meteorites and Law too, and BigMom a Yonko
by your definitions they were all swordsmen, but marines didnt even bring Fujitora's name as competitor for title of WSS when they did mention Vista and Zoro
now if you want to ignore this obvious indication that there are those worthy for competing for the title (Pure swordsmen) and there are those who arent worthy of competing (hybrids), you can ignore, but you cant change the facts even if you try for another 20 years :kriwhat:
by my definition, the names mentioned by marines are exactly the worthy competitors for WSS,
Mihawk, Ryuma, Shanks, Vista and Zoro are the Pureswordsmen
Kizaru, Akainu, Fujitora, BigMom, Law are not
So there is no distinction made between swordsmen, it is just you who decided that people who were not named by the marines in this conversation are not concerned by the title.

So by your definition, in the road for the WSS’s title Zoro only fought two swordsmen worth his time (Mihawk and Ryuma)?

And by your definition, Shiliew is not concern by the WSS’s title anymore.
 
So there is no distinction made between swordsmen, it is just you who decided that people who were not named by the marines in this conversation are not concerned by the title.

So by your definition, in the road for the WSS’s title Zoro only fought two swordsmen worth his time (Mihawk and Ryuma)?

And by your definition, Shiliew is not concern by the WSS’s title anymore.
yes he isnt anymore included in the race of WSS, Remember when Luffy proposed DF to Franky he denied and said he would rather swim, it is the same here, Shilliew could choose to stay and aim for the title or gain more power ignore the title/competition
people choose their priorities, shilliew simply doesnt care about the WSS title, he prioritizes more power
Franky Doesnt care about more power (Mera Fruit), he would rather have his swimming ability
and Zoro doesnt need to fight all the swordsmen, he needs to fight the strongest, just like Mihawk hasnt fought every swordsman,
Mihawk's priority was always the title so even after going across world he never ate any fruit
Zoro's priority is making Luffy the PK and then comes WSS, Zoro fought Gunslinger in Skypea, fought Kuma, fought Apoo, fought Hawkins, fought Oars, Fought Kaido, fought Hody...etc... it doesnt need to be swordsmen, but since Fandom wants it swordsmen then he is being offered sword wielders mostly,
 
yes he isnt anymore included in the race of WSS, Remember when Luffy proposed DF to Franky he denied and said he would rather swim, it is the same here, Shilliew could choose to stay and aim for the title or gain more power ignore the title/competition
people choose their priorities, shilliew simply doesnt care about the WSS title, he prioritizes more power
Franky Doesnt care about more power (Mera Fruit), he would rather have his swimming ability
and Zoro doesnt need to fight all the swordsmen, he needs to fight the strongest, just like Mihawk hasnt fought every swordsman,
Mihawk's priority was always the title so even after going across world he never ate any fruit
Zoro's priority is making Luffy the PK and then comes WSS, Zoro fought Gunslinger in Skypea, fought Kuma, fought Apoo, fought Hawkins, fought Oars, Fought Kaido, fought Hody...etc... it doesnt need to be swordsmen, but since Fandom wants it swordsmen then he is being offered sword wielders mostly,
If it makes sense to you that in the road to his dream, Zoro only fought a couple of guys (one being a zombie) who was really competing with him for the said dream, be my guest:kayneshrug:
 
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Let's follow your clown logic

- Marine fodders discuss who stronger Zoro or Mihawk
- They dump the names of Shanks, Vista and Ryuma
- They didn't said Fujitora name
- They didn't say whatever Fujitora is a swordsman or not
- Fujitora was intreduce as a swordsman
- Fujitora was based after a swordsman

Conclusion - Fujitora isn't a true swordsman

:seriously:
Vista/Zoro > Fujitora .... hmmm nice
Vista/Zoro > Kizaru .... hmmm nice
Vista/Zoro > BigMom .... hmmm very nice
thats why Vista and zoro was included and others ignored
... can't you see the flaw in your logic :lawsigh:
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If it makes sense to you that in the road to his dream, Zoro only fought a couple of guys (one being a zombie) who was really competing with him for the said dream, be my guest:kayneshrug:
I dont care who he fights as long as he beats Mihawk...
I am more eager to see Zoro fighting Admirals than fighting swordsmen,
if it is hype you need then even bigger hype than beating Mihawk, is beating Kaido, and surely Kaido who is not swordsmen by our definition is bigger hype and even the most hardcore fan would want Zoro to fight this non swordsman and beat him
now tell me is that looking bad to you ? Zoro fighting non swordsman Kaido on his way to WSS ?
 
I dont care who he fights as long as he beats Mihawk...
I am more eager to see Zoro fighting Admirals than fighting swordsmen,
if it is hype you need then even bigger hype than beating Mihawk, is beating Kaido, and surely Kaido who is not swordsmen by our definition is bigger hype and even the most hardcore fan would want Zoro to fight this non swordsman and beat him
now tell me is that looking bad to you ? Zoro fighting non swordsman Kaido on his way to WSS ?
All of Zoro hardcore fans consider that someone like Kaku or Fujitora are concerned by the WSS’s title therefore Zoro « beating » the strongest swordsman in Wano recent history by doing better than him against Kaido is a good thing. As a one time thing.

What you are saying is that the only alive competitor for the title that Zoro ever fought in the story is Mihawk. That is not the same thing.
 
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Is Fujitora a Swordsman? He didn't used any cutting attack and use his DF power with his sword
:choppawhat:

@Minatoze Narutomaki @Chaves @Charlotte Horchata @Ninjashadow0209 this question is for you clowns, is Fujitora - a character who doesn't fit your ridiculous standards for being a "pure" swordsman but was intrduce as a swordsman and was based on a character of blind swordsman is a swordsman? Because Don Le Fishe understand from you that Fujitora isn't a true swordaman :josad:
First of all, a person who speaks of himself in third person and mocks Kaido for having a fish fruit (as if dragons weren't related to fishes) is both laughable and ignorant, so I'd appreciate you not to think of yourself too highly to call others "clowns".

Regarding your mention, I didn't take any position in this thread regarding "pure swordsmanship" and what you're doing here is assuming that I've been commiting an ad logicam fallacy (while doing it yourself), so allow me to not give a shit about your question and what you (don't) understand.

If you want to know my take on this issue, do your work and search for it.
 

Le Fishe D. Tomdou

My pronouns are Fish/Yum
Vista/Zoro > Fujitora .... hmmm nice
Vista/Zoro > Kizaru .... hmmm nice
Vista/Zoro > BigMom .... hmmm very nice
thats why Vista and zoro was included and others ignored
... can't you see the flaw in your logic :lawsigh:
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I dont care who he fights as long as he beats Mihawk...
I am more eager to see Zoro fighting Admirals than fighting swordsmen,
if it is hype you need then even bigger hype than beating Mihawk, is beating Kaido, and surely Kaido who is not swordsmen by our definition is bigger hype and even the most hardcore fan would want Zoro to fight this non swordsman and beat him
now tell me is that looking bad to you ? Zoro fighting non swordsman Kaido on his way to WSS ?
Keep clowning yourself pleb.
 
You are the clown here fishy, who dont even want to read plain obvious texts and cling on to your own idea because it doesnt fit Zoro Hype.
@Cyrus the Cactus
@Finalbeta
@HA001
@Rivaille
read the texts of sandman

Marines are talking about who is Worthy of title WSS.
Whose names did they mention ?
Mihawk, Zoro, Shanks, Vista and Ryuma...
by your definitions Akainu also is Swordsman, while Marines mentioned his name and strength, they didnt even consider him in the list,
by your definition Kizaru is swordsman, they didn't mention his name,
and now you Clown Fishy, they didnt even mention Fujitora's name who was present in dressrossa cutting Meteorites and Law too, and BigMom a Yonko
by your definitions they were all swordsmen, but marines didnt even bring Fujitora's name as competitor for title of WSS when they did mention Vista and Zoro
now if you want to ignore this obvious indication that there are those worthy for competing for the title (Pure swordsmen) and there are those who arent worthy of competing (hybrids), you can ignore, but you cant change the facts even if you try for another 20 years :kriwhat:
by my definition, the names mentioned by marines are exactly the worthy competitors for WSS,
Mihawk, Ryuma, Shanks, Vista and Zoro are the Pureswordsmen
Kizaru, Akainu, Fujitora, BigMom, Law are not
Are you retarded ?
What the fuck does that have to do with anything ?
They compared zoros cutting feat to mihawks cutting feat and then to mihawk and vistas clash and then shanks who they stopped talking about cause they didn't see any feats from him.
Why would they talk about fuji or law or anyone else when they've not seen them cut anything major in comparison

Oda himself called fuji and law swordsman

Stop this shit.

Mihawks title is the exact same as whitebeards save the suffix man/swordsman

Stop making bullshit excuses
If fruit users don't count for mihawks then they don't count for whitebeards which is obviously not true.
 
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