Call it nonsense if you wish, the fact is this:
Old WB couldn't use haki at a level that is needed to beat top tiers. The thing he had going for him was his DF and somewhat sturdy old body.
Put him in a 1 vs 1 against any of the MF admirals and he loses.
I'm not saying he gets "low diffed"
I'm saying he loses.
Call it nonsense if you wish, the fact is this:
Old WB couldn't use haki at a level that is needed to beat top tiers. The thing he had going for him was his DF and somewhat sturdy old body.
Put him in a 1 vs 1 against any of the MF admirals and he loses.
I'm not saying he gets "low diffed"
I'm saying he loses.
Let's go paragraph by paragraph.
Whitebeard was cheap shotted THE ENTIRE ARC? Cmon, not even you believe that. He was cheap shotted by Squard and by who else?
Whitebeard RIVALED Roger. Not anymore. You don't believe me? Ok, listen to Marco who says that WB would have easily evaded Squard's attack if he wasn't old and sick.
5 Admirals? Who are the other 2 that fought WB? Because Sengoku and Garp didn't even lift a finger against WB.
Garp punched Marco once.
Sengoku slapped Luffy once. Then he fought BB briefly.
So all the Yonko are stronger than Admirals, but somehow they can beat Big Mom? Why? What makes Big Mom any lesser in strength than her peers?
Prime WB is Prime WB. Prime WB can beat some admirals, not all.
Just like Roger could've beaten some Admirals, not all. Garp was Admiral in strength yet he was Roger's equal. And Roger specifically put Senfoku in the same tier as Garp.
If WB=Roger than WB would also be stalemated by Garp or Sengoku.
if ryokugyu wanted to show feats and was willing to go against akainu orders of not going to wano i do not know why he waited until kaido was defeated to go there... to my low iq it almost looks like he only feel confident if kaido is not around
Let's go paragraph by paragraph.
Whitebeard was cheap shotted THE ENTIRE ARC? Cmon, not even you believe that. He was cheap shotted by Squard and by who else?
Whitebeard RIVALED Roger. Not anymore. You don't believe me? Ok, listen to Marco who says that WB would have easily evaded Squard's attack if he wasn't old and sick.
5 Admirals? Who are the other 2 that fought WB? Because Sengoku and Garp didn't even lift a finger against WB.
Garp punched Marco once.
Sengoku slapped Luffy once. Then he fought BB briefly.
So all the Yonko are stronger than Admirals, but somehow they can beat Big Mom? Why? What makes Big Mom any lesser in strength than her peers?
Prime WB is Prime WB. Prime WB can beat some admirals, not all.
Just like Roger could've beaten some Admirals, not all. Garp was Admiral in strength yet he was Roger's equal. And Roger specifically put Senfoku in the same tier as Garp.
If WB=Roger than WB would also be stalemated by Garp or Sengoku.
you do know that Ace was saved before all this right? They literally saved Ace with no major casualties and could have left. And with that big brain of yours your ignoring they had a hostage, had giant earthquake proof wall surrounding the island, homefiled advantage including a fortress with thousands of cannons. and they still struggled to hold back an old sick WB who was having heart attacks and was stabbed straight through with a sword before the fight even started and likely wasnt trying to kill anybody major.
Lets also pretend like he didnt wreck the island start a new pirate uprising and take thousands if narines with him. He literally had marines flying around like glitter in the end. a
Those excuses don’t work. WB had four 1 on 1 fights with the Admirals and didn’t have the advantage in a single one until he attacked an Admiral from behind.
- 1 of his men interfered when Aokiji was about to attack him after freezing himself into his bisento.
- Kizaru dodged an attack from him and shot him in the torso. That could have been his head instead.
- Akainu stopped a swing from him with 1 foot and his hands in his pockets when he was about to go wild in the plaza. After they fought for a while, WB had a heart attack and Akainu hit him in the torso. Again, if that were his head instead, he would be dead. Even if it were a follow up instead of Akainu disappearing so that fodder could attack him, he would be dead.
- Even in the final one where he attacked Akainu from behind with a hit to the head, Akainu was able to retaliate and melt off a portion of his head.
I don’t know where you got the idea that he was about to defeat Akainu before other Marines interfered. It was the other way around.
Why on earth did you think that even after taking out the Commanders, all 3 Admirals didn’t just dog pile him and out an end to the story? Did you think that would be good for the plot and Luffy who would be slaughtered next?
Taking Marineford out of context is always so amusing since “yankers” wouldn’t dare do the same to something like WCI where just half the Strawhats showed up and actually succeeded in rescuing their nakama.
By that line of reasoning, half the Strawhats must be equal to a Yonko crew. (This one’s not directed at you since you acknowledge that the Navybis obviously superior to 1 Yonko crew).
you do know that Ace was saved before all this right? They literally saved Ace with no major casualties and could have left. And with that big brain of yours your ignoring they had a hostage, had giant earthquake proof wall surrounding the island, homefiled advantage including a fortress with thousands of cannons. and they still struggled to hold back an old sick WB who was having heart attacks and was stabbed straight through with a sword before the fight even started and likely wasnt trying to kill anybody major.
Lets also pretend like he didnt wreck the island start a new pirate uprising and take thousands if narines with him. He literally had marines flying around like glitter in the end. a
And how exactly was Ace saved? Which WB Pirate saved him…or maybe it was WB himself?
Nope…a complete 3rd party did, without whom the WB pirates wouldn’t even have escaped the bay and would have just been wiped out according to Sengoku’s plan.
That excuse doesn’t work. Take out Luffy and the Impel Down crew and the result is even far worse than what is in the picture!
Even then, Jozu was already frozen and maimed before they saved Ace, and Oars Jr. was taken out as well. The only reason it didn’t get worse is because the Admirals didn’t finish off the Commanders and decide to gang up and wipe out Whitebeard as well.
Even when WB was fighting Kizaru and Luffy was climbing the platform, Akainu & Aokiji conveniently disappeared just so that he could succeed.
Taking into account the full context only makes things worse for the pirates since it shows just how much had to work in the protagonist’s favour to even allow it happen.
Not sure why WB who can spawn quakes that can engulf an entire island sending a bunch of fodder flying is supposed to change the point either. It’s not like the Admirals could just turn their home into Punk Hazard either.
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