Questions & Mysteries Some Questions About Shiryu and Benn Beckman

[Gear]

We've already seen YC1 like Katakuri, Marco, King and especially Zoro, now just missing Benn Beckman and Shiryu. Well, despite both Shiryu and Beckman being characters without any development so far, this doesn't stop the fandom from creating theories or speculations about them, whether their roles in the narrative, their power levels, who they will face and etc. So I decided to create some questions about the two remaining YC1s, and yes, I know Shiryu and Beckman don't have enough plot material, but don't worry.
To understand better read the questions and the description of the questions

Spoiler: Benn Beckman

Spoiler: Shiryu

1- What makes you think Shiryu is Stronger than Beckman??

Spoiler: Beckman x Shiryu

(I see many people saying that Shiryu is stronger than Beckman or that he will surpass Beckman, but...why? Is it because Shiryu will be Zoro's opponent?)

2- Do you think the Diamond fruit would have been better than the Invisibility fruit for Shiryu?

Spoiler: Shiryu diamond fruit

(If Shiryu is Zoro's opponent do you think it would make more sense for Shiryu to have the Diamond fruit for his fight against Zoro, would Zoro learn to cut Diamond (just like Mr 1) or is the Invisibility fruit better?)

3- Do you really believe that Beckman and Shiryu have a bounty of 2 bi and up?

( Given the bounties for Katakuri, Marco and King, do you really think Shiryu or Beckman will be the first Yonkou Commanders with a bounty of 2 billion?)

4- Do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 to a Yonkou Level?

Spoiler: Beckman power

(One of the few information we have about his power, is that Beckman's strength rivals Shanks' strength, with that, do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 of the Yonko level or was this information just to hype the character?)

5- Do you think Shiryu will be Zoro's final opponent?

Spoiler: Shiryu vs Zoro

(Although I personally think Mihawk is Zoro's ultimate opponent, people who think Shiryu will be Zoro's ultimate opponent, so I especially ask those people, Why?)

6- What unique Special Ability do you think Shiryu and Beckman possess?
(Every YC1 has a special ability, be it Advanced Haki, an Awakened Fruit, a Mythical Fruit with the ability to regenerate, a Special Race, so you think for example Beckman or Shiryu have some Advanced Haki, or a special weapon?)

Final Question- Which one to die of cancer first, Shiryu or Beckman?
(After Sanji of course)

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[Kurozumi Giggio]

i think Zoro will be heavily nerfed from old injuries when fighting Shiryu

 

[Chrono]

We've already seen YC1 like Katakuri, Marco, King and especially Zoro,

You just had to fit him in right

 

[Gorosei]

@Gear fair questions, I'll answer them.

1- What makes you think Shiryu is Stronger than Beckman??

I don't. I do think he could eventually surpass him. As for how, I have one word for you: Yoru.

2- Do you think the Diamond fruit would have been better than the Invisibility fruit for Shiryu?

Diamon was good at the time, but One Piece has evolved. At most someone in Blackbeard's mid trio should take that. I personally hope the Clear fruit will have other powers besides invisibility. Nothingness Manipulation is very over powered in other verses.

3- Do you really believe that Beckman and Shiryu have a bounty of 2 bi and up?

Benn: I doubt it. Oda has made it pretty likely none of them will break 1.5. If Beckman really is Shanks equal CoC and all, then I guess he could have 3.9B. . . . I really REALLY doubt Oda would go that far though.

Shiryu: I think the Gov will substantially up the BB and SH bounties in a last ditch attempt to stop them from reaching Laugh Tale. So for that reason I can see it happening. I don't expect it, but I could see it.

4- Do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 to a Yonkou Level?

Of the characters put fourth? Sure, most likely. Could be wrong.

5- Do you think Shiryu will be Zoro's final opponent?

No. That honor belongs to Saint Gandhi or maybe even Imu if we count Handicap matches as Final Opponents.

6- What unique Special Ability do you think Shiryu and Beckman possess?

Benn: KH Specialist. Mimicking Sanji;s relationship with Luffy and Zoro. Also very intelligent. His gun I think is a custom Dial of his own design; which he can alter it/bullets depending on the situation.

Shiryu: I already mentioned expectations for the Clear fruit. Additionally I wouldn't mind if Raiu had some hidden ability similar to Enma. Something related to Haki drain or killing empowerment to make Zoro's battle all the more dark and exciting.

 

[L55]

You just had to fit him in right

Yeah he s wrong.zoro is far above

 

[Sir Yasheen]

We've already seen YC1 like Katakuri, Marco, King and especially Zoro, now just missing Benn Beckman and Shiryu. Well, despite both Shiryu and Beckman being characters without any development so far, this doesn't stop the fandom from creating theories or speculations about them, whether their roles in the narrative, their power levels, who they will face and etc. So I decided to create some questions about the two remaining YC1s, and yes, I know Shiryu and Beckman don't have enough plot material, but don't worry.
To understand better read the questions and the description of the questions

Spoiler: Benn Beckman

Spoiler: Shiryu

1- What makes you think Shiryu is Stronger than Beckman??

Spoiler: Beckman x Shiryu

(I see many people saying that Shiryu is stronger than Beckman or that he will surpass Beckman, but...why? Is it because Shiryu will be Zoro's opponent?)

2- Do you think the Diamond fruit would have been better than the Invisibility fruit for Shiryu?

Spoiler: Shiryu diamond fruit

(If Shiryu is Zoro's opponent do you think it would make more sense for Shiryu to have the Diamond fruit for his fight against Zoro, would Zoro learn to cut Diamond (just like Mr 1) or is the Invisibility fruit better?)

3- Do you really believe that Beckman and Shiryu have a bounty of 2 bi and up?

( Given the bounties for Katakuri, Marco and King, do you really think Shiryu or Beckman will be the first Yonkou Commanders with a bounty of 2 billion?)

4- Do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 to a Yonkou Level?

Spoiler: Beckman power

(One of the few information we have about his power, is that Beckman's strength rivals Shanks' strength, with that, do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 of the Yonko level or was this information just to hype the character?)

5- Do you think Shiryu will be Zoro's final opponent?

Spoiler: Shiryu vs Zoro

(Although I personally think Mihawk is Zoro's ultimate opponent, people who think Shiryu will be Zoro's ultimate opponent, so I especially ask those people, Why?)

6- What unique Special Ability do you think Shiryu and Beckman possess?
(Every YC1 has a special ability, be it Advanced Haki, an Awakened Fruit, a Mythical Fruit with the ability to regenerate, a Special Race, so you think for example Beckman or Shiryu have some Advanced Haki, or a special weapon?)

Final Question- Which one to die of cancer first, Shiryu or Beckman?
(After Sanji of course)

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1. Shiryu is Zoros BB pirates Matchup, as such since BB > Shanks, Shiryu should be stronger than anyone in Shanks’ crew
2. God no. Shiryu with the invisibility fruit is a really nice touch. Zoros a man who fights for Fame, literally so his name will reach the heavens, shiryu being a fighter who doesn’t care about the fame but just the joy of killing (literally invisible) is a good foil. Plus Zoro can already cut steel, but he’s yet to show that he can cut nothing.
3. Shiryu yes, Beckman I think is like 1.6
4. The YC# System is flawed regardless so saying he’s a YC1 near Yonko doesn’t make any sense. I think he’s close ish to shanks, but I still have him weaker than any admiral.
5. He’ll be Zoros opponent before the final war with the WG
6. Shiryus Invisibility is a strong ability, but I think awakening the fruit will allow him to make the surroundings invisible which for Zoro who gets lost being able to see where he’s going will be very interesting. Combined with the an ability to erase himself entirely Shiryu will become nothing
7. Beckman

 

[ConquistadoR]

1- What makes you think Shiryu is Stronger than Beckman??

Because of Luffy's promise to Shanks.

There's a good chance that Luffy gets to meet Shanks to return the Strawhat or is atleast at a position to do so after the end of Wano, with a lot of symbolism going for it; like Luffy finally being at a stage where he can go toe-to-toe with Yonkou calibre fighters, the entire Strawhats being a Yonko tier crew etc,.

And a part of the promise was for Luffy to get a crew which surpasses Shanks' own and to become a Great Pirate himself. I don't see Beckmann being superior to current Zoro, at best on the same tier. Shiryu is supposed to give a tougher fight to this Zoro. Only logical that he's stronger than Beckmann.

2- Do you think the Diamond fruit would have been better than the Invisibility fruit for Shiryu?

Invisibility Fruit is better since it goes with Shiryu's stealthy theme, he destroyed the whole surveillance system in ID without being detected back in pre-ts itself.

The fruit itself has a lot of untapped potential, with it being wasted on a joke like Absalom. All I'm saying is that a subordinate of Shiryu has been given a mythical Zoan. Just be patient for Shiryu greatness with the awakened Suke Suke no Mi.

3- Do you really believe that Beckman and Shiryu have a bounty of 2 bi and up?

No, I think Beckmann caps at 1.5 billion. Shiryu can potentially have a bounty higher than 2 billion though, since he's supposed to fight a Zoro who would already have a 1.4-1.6 billion bounty at the End of Wano.

4- Do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 to a Yonkou Level?

Compared to King, Katakuri, Marco? Yes.

5- Do you think Shiryu will be Zoro's final opponent?

Nah, that's Mihawk.

6- What unique Special Ability do you think Shiryu and Beckman possess?

Shiryu - Awakened Suke Suke no Mi which erases his entire presence instead of just simple invisibility. Plus COC coating.
Beckmann - COC coating and gunmanship if I have to guess. Not really sure.

 

[Welkin]

We've already seen YC1 like Katakuri, Marco, King and especially Zoro, now just missing Benn Beckman and Shiryu. Well, despite both Shiryu and Beckman being characters without any development so far, this doesn't stop the fandom from creating theories or speculations about them, whether their roles in the narrative, their power levels, who they will face and etc. So I decided to create some questions about the two remaining YC1s, and yes, I know Shiryu and Beckman don't have enough plot material, but don't worry.
To understand better read the questions and the description of the questions

Spoiler: Benn Beckman

Spoiler: Shiryu

1- What makes you think Shiryu is Stronger than Beckman??

Spoiler: Beckman x Shiryu

(I see many people saying that Shiryu is stronger than Beckman or that he will surpass Beckman, but...why? Is it because Shiryu will be Zoro's opponent?)

2- Do you think the Diamond fruit would have been better than the Invisibility fruit for Shiryu?

Spoiler: Shiryu diamond fruit

(If Shiryu is Zoro's opponent do you think it would make more sense for Shiryu to have the Diamond fruit for his fight against Zoro, would Zoro learn to cut Diamond (just like Mr 1) or is the Invisibility fruit better?)

3- Do you really believe that Beckman and Shiryu have a bounty of 2 bi and up?

( Given the bounties for Katakuri, Marco and King, do you really think Shiryu or Beckman will be the first Yonkou Commanders with a bounty of 2 billion?)

4- Do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 to a Yonkou Level?

Spoiler: Beckman power

(One of the few information we have about his power, is that Beckman's strength rivals Shanks' strength, with that, do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 of the Yonko level or was this information just to hype the character?)

5- Do you think Shiryu will be Zoro's final opponent?

Spoiler: Shiryu vs Zoro

(Although I personally think Mihawk is Zoro's ultimate opponent, people who think Shiryu will be Zoro's ultimate opponent, so I especially ask those people, Why?)

6- What unique Special Ability do you think Shiryu and Beckman possess?
(Every YC1 has a special ability, be it Advanced Haki, an Awakened Fruit, a Mythical Fruit with the ability to regenerate, a Special Race, so you think for example Beckman or Shiryu have some Advanced Haki, or a special weapon?)

Final Question- Which one to die of cancer first, Shiryu or Beckman?
(After Sanji of course)

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1. He isn't. Beckman got hype that puts him near Shanks while Shiryu doesn't have that yet but who knows what'll happen now that he has a devil fruit

2. It depends on how invisibility actually works in One Piece. Sanji used it to get between King and Queen and save Momo but is observation always active? If Zoro or Beckman were to fight Shiryu wouldn't they have it on at all times making it completely worthless? Or are you unable to detect them even with observation? We don't know enough to speak on it

3. I think Beckman does but there's no way Shiryu is over 2b. His captain (the Yonko with 2 devil fruits and his own territory) is just barely over 2 billion himself

4. Yes

5. Final? Hell no. It's either Mihawk or the Gorosei swordsman

6. Shiryu already has a gimmicky devil fruit

Beckman will have a weird version of observation we don't know about yet

 

[Gear]

You just had to fit him in right

Yeah he s wrong.zoro is far above

 

[Jailer]

1- What makes

Don't believe he's stronger than Beckman yet, however his time will come give him a month or two with his new abilities to experiment then I will have him over Beckman

2- Do you think the Diamond fruit would have been better than the Invisibility fruit for Shiryu?

Nope, expecially now with Zoro having ACoA/CoC coating it's pointless, all it would require is stronger moves to break through that defense while Invisibility could perhaps give Shiryu a hax that takes advantage of Zoro's lack of CoO specialization.

3- Do you really believe that Beckman and Shiryu have a bounty of 2 bi and up?

No

4- Do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 to a Yonkou Level?

Not yet

5- Do you think Shiryu will be Zoro's final opponent?

Yes if BBP are meant to be final villain then sure.

6- What unique Special Ability do you think Shiryu and Beckman possess?

Unsure what to predict haki wise, I assume he will have some good mastery over it as he was Magellans equal so he must have had strong haki as a non df user to be on that level, and now with post ts even stronger and just obtained a new ability.

I imagine he would have attacks like WW knife gun but on a much larger scale and to match his rain epithet, being naked to the eye due to his df power, or slashes that split up

And since his fruit should have more than just simple invisibility since it's called vanish vanish also, create something similar to Bluenos air door, except it would work like an invisible shield completely vanishing enemy attacks and concealing his presence within that shield from CoO users as well (could be the awakened technique)

 

[Colt Buntline]

Beckman is Shanks' vice captain, while Shiryuu is just another crew member in Blackbeard's crew, and there's no indication that he's stronger than anyone else among his mates.

Especially considering how he's probably Zoro's opponent for being a swordsman and appearing in that colourspread to appear along with Zoro, he's most likely at most just the third strongest in the crew, since Sanji's opponents are usually stronger than Zoro's.

And even supposing that Shiryuu is really the second strongest, I still believe Beckman is stronger, because of how his strength seems to be comparable to Shanks, and he seems very fitting to be Sanji's opponent, whereas Shiryuu was so weak that he lost to Magellan even though he knew about Magellan's power and could have prepared an antidote beforehand. Not to mention that Shiryuu ended up eating the most useless devil fruit, and now he has a weakness to ocean water and kairouseki, whereas Beckman doesn't seem to have any weakness so far.

And just judging by appearance and attitude, I really can't imagine Beckman losing to anyone, while Shiryuu looks like the typical villain who loses in a pathetic way after overestimating his opponent; I can easily imagine Mihawk beating him with one hit, while Shiryuu is invisible.

 

[kumae]

We've already seen YC1 like Katakuri, Marco, King and especially Zoro, now just missing Benn Beckman and Shiryu. Well, despite both Shiryu and Beckman being characters without any development so far, this doesn't stop the fandom from creating theories or speculations about them, whether their roles in the narrative, their power levels, who they will face and etc. So I decided to create some questions about the two remaining YC1s, and yes, I know Shiryu and Beckman don't have enough plot material, but don't worry.
To understand better read the questions and the description of the questions

Spoiler: Benn Beckman

Spoiler: Shiryu

1- What makes you think Shiryu is Stronger than Beckman??

Spoiler: Beckman x Shiryu

(I see many people saying that Shiryu is stronger than Beckman or that he will surpass Beckman, but...why? Is it because Shiryu will be Zoro's opponent?)

2- Do you think the Diamond fruit would have been better than the Invisibility fruit for Shiryu?

Spoiler: Shiryu diamond fruit

(If Shiryu is Zoro's opponent do you think it would make more sense for Shiryu to have the Diamond fruit for his fight against Zoro, would Zoro learn to cut Diamond (just like Mr 1) or is the Invisibility fruit better?)

3- Do you really believe that Beckman and Shiryu have a bounty of 2 bi and up?

( Given the bounties for Katakuri, Marco and King, do you really think Shiryu or Beckman will be the first Yonkou Commanders with a bounty of 2 billion?)

4- Do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 to a Yonkou Level?

Spoiler: Beckman power

(One of the few information we have about his power, is that Beckman's strength rivals Shanks' strength, with that, do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 of the Yonko level or was this information just to hype the character?)

5- Do you think Shiryu will be Zoro's final opponent?

Spoiler: Shiryu vs Zoro

(Although I personally think Mihawk is Zoro's ultimate opponent, people who think Shiryu will be Zoro's ultimate opponent, so I especially ask those people, Why?)

6- What unique Special Ability do you think Shiryu and Beckman possess?
(Every YC1 has a special ability, be it Advanced Haki, an Awakened Fruit, a Mythical Fruit with the ability to regenerate, a Special Race, so you think for example Beckman or Shiryu have some Advanced Haki, or a special weapon?)

Final Question- Which one to die of cancer first, Shiryu or Beckman?
(After Sanji of course)

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1-BB pirates will be stronger than Shanks pirates they are going strong through they NW this means that BB rhm(Shiryu)will be stronger than Shanks rhm(beckman)
2-No the invisibility fruit with awakening is best is the best fruit to unlock a haki upgrade(FS),zoro said in the past that is was wastefull cutting diamond
3-before zoro fight shiryu will have a 3bi imo beckman actual bounty has to be between 1.45 and 1.48
4-maybe but I should wait for feats
5-no as I said Shiryu is the better weapon to unlock FS mihawk is known for his good CoO
6-Shiryu with his fruit has speed+lethality
Beckman kairoseki guns+CoO

 

[cleanmrpostman]

Beckman is said to be the moon to Shanks' sun, similar to Rayleigh and Zoro so I'm far more hyped for him. I've never really understood the hype for Shiryu after seeing him at Marineford

 

[TepesIII]

1- What makes you think Shiryu is Stronger than Beckman??

Mostly because Shiryuu has to minimum push Zoro to high diff. This will be a moderately stronger Zoro than currently because Zoro will naturally get a little better after this high diff King W and Zoro is always improving and training.

Is Becky the strongest Yonko FM otherwise? Sure is, but what story purpose does he have to make him stronger than current Zoro let alone Shiryu? Zero as far as we know now.

2- Do you think the Diamond fruit would have been better than the Invisibility fruit for Shiryu?

Nah, King is more durable than that as is—Diamond would make it a rehash of Daz Bones and King. The Invisible fruit is an unknown factor. You know It’s hyped since the Blackbeard pirates are specifically looking for strong fruits and Shiryuu settled for that one.

3- Do you really believe that Beckman and Shiryu have a bounty of 2 bi and up?

I think Beckman will have a bounty of 1.4B ~ 1.6B. So he’s noticably above the rest but not out of their league.

I’m not sure what the BB pirates will do to increase their bounties but I expect him to be a bit above current Teach’s bounty.

4- Do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 to a Yonkou Level?

Excluding Shiryu? Yes. He is probably weaker than Law, Kidd and Yamato though.

5- Do you think Shiryu will be Zoro's final opponent?

Nah. I don’t think Oda would feed Mihawk to Shiryu as cool as that would be.

IMO it is;
Shiryu —> Gorosei(?) —> Fujitora —> Mihawk

- What unique Special Ability do you think Shiryu and Beckman possess?

Beckman will have CoC and potentially a low level of infusion qualities like Yamato.

I hope Shiryu has something similar to Asura.

Final Question- Which one to die of cancer first, Shiryu or Beckman?

Well Shiryu probably had a few years of no smoking thanks to his imprisonment and is younger. Becky probably goes first

 

[HA001]

Mostly because Shiryuu has to minimum push Zoro to high diff. This will be a moderately stronger Zoro than currently because Zoro will naturally get a little better after this high diff King W and Zoro is always improving and training.

Is Becky the strongest Yonko FM otherwise? Sure is, but what story purpose does he have to make him stronger than current Zoro let alone Shiryu? Zero as far as we know now.

Nah, King is more durable than that as is—Diamond would make it a rehash of Daz Bones and King. The Invisible fruit is an unknown factor. You know It’s hyped since the Blackbeard pirates are specifically looking for strong fruits and Shiryuu settled for that one.

I think Beckman will have a bounty of 1.4B ~ 1.6B. So he’s noticably above the rest but not out of their league.

I’m not sure what the BB pirates will do to increase their bounties but I expect him to be a bit above current Teach’s bounty.



Excluding Shiryu? Yes. He is probably weaker than Law, Kidd and Yamato though.


Nah. I don’t think Oda would feed Mihawk to Shiryu as cool as that would be.

IMO it is;
Shiryu —> Gorosei(?) —> Fujitora —> Mihawk

Beckman will have CoC and potentially a low level of infusion qualities like Yamato.

I hope Shiryu has something similar to Asura.

Well Shiryu probably had a few years of no smoking thanks to his imprisonment and is younger. Becky probably goes first

Ben folding law lidd and yamato. He will have all 3 hakis

 

[Salah WG]

1- What makes you think Shiryu is Stronger than Beckman?

He is not

2- Do you think the Diamond fruit would have been better than the Invisibility fruit for Shiryu?

No

3- Do you really believe that Beckman and Shiryu have a bounty of 2 bi and up?

Impossible for Shiryu, but possible for Beckman

4- Do you think Beckman is the closest YC1 to a Yonkou Level?

He is Yonko Level

5- Do you think Shiryu will be Zoro's final opponent?

No, not even his Last Three Fights

6- What unique Special Ability do you think Shiryu and Beckman possess?

Shiryu doesn't fight fairly, just like every single BB Pirate
Beckman specializes in a Certain Technique of CoC

 

[Lor D. Coast]

completely vanishing enemy attacks

What would stop him from doing the same with his enemies?

 

[Law-sama]

Both weaker or as strong as post WCI Luffy. I'm not hype for both of them

 

[Jailer]

What would stop him from doing the same with his enemies?

That would be too much

 

[Finalbeta]

Benn Beckman is stated to be comparable to Shanks in his VC and that is likely not a matter of fame / influence, but maybe he is close to his level and not quite on the same.

Shiryu, I wonder if he is as powerful as his EoS counterpart, let's assume close.

If that's so it's not far fetched to think Shiryu and Benn are pretty close, perhaps Shiryu might win after an Extreme difficulty match up 🧐