[FNZ] Role Madness Star Wars OT - Game Thread

[York]

Reasons?

He was being coy about his claim for no good reason at all. Slimy.

 

[Ratchet]

For one post so my point still stands lol. Hes being nitpicky.

No, you started by saying he came in as himself. Then I said no he didn't, he started off roleplaying a star. And then you said oh well it was only one post.

 

[Ultra]

I am not saying I don't trust your read per say, it's just that I am looking at it from a perspective, you might not be willing to look at because of the history or whatever.

Sure, If you wanna paint it that way to make yourself feel better. This truly has nothing to do with ego here. You can do you. I will give you your credit as well, don't you worry if he flips scum here.

Apologies if this rubbed you the wrong way. I think you percieved it in the wrong manner. Which was not my intention. I elaborated on why I personally don't think he is scum. I might be wrong, possible.

Like from where I am standing, I am playing in the perciption that the dude will flip townie here, and playing accordingly. I stated what I stated with you and asked your opinion on ratchet and not necessairly yours. Because I don't think the reason you will give will be satisfactory for me. Like you will just say he played bad and deserve it and move forward probably.

I think you know exactly what you were saying there which is that I play outside the bounds of the game due to petty grievances. Don't think I'm mistaking anything here

 

[Fujishiro]

No, you started by saying he came in as himself. Then I said no he didn't, he started off roleplaying a star. And then you said oh well it was only one post.

I googled her lol.

Hes free to defend himself Im just giving my thoughts lol.

In Weebs he came in with that whole Anime guy gimmick and speaking german and shit whereas here he came in as himself and straight up voted whoever he wanted without a care. Like how he approached my slot was a bit too on the nose for me to scum read him.

I do think I can read him better as a player when he posts more though so I guess we can wait.

Since I didnt see the star post I was obviously refering to the rest which is him posting normally.

In Weebs his entrance was a bit more stiff then here though dont you think?

 

[Ratchet]

He does not mind axing polar here, and said that he does not mind voting reloaded either. Not that he is willing to drop the vote on polar and vote for reloaded instead. Big difference. Like I just think that after the dude claimed, he seemed unbothered and would of lynched either way. Keeping reloaded there is like a secondary wagon. I would think town ratchet would revaluate the dude spot, even if a bit.

Why? The role isn't claiming, doesn't move the needle for me and isn't so valuable that it's worth keeping him alive to get use out of. It also has the unfortunate side effect of being most useful when power roles are outed which isn't something I'm keen on doing. Otherwise you run the risk of motivating a scum role. So yes I am completely unbothered.

 

[Fujishiro]

Do you just not read. Nothing about his claim is clearing so it doesn't move the my decision. That does not mean the claim itself must be scum leaning. It means it doesn't do anything for me.

Cool then Polar Bear was right and it was a waste of time for him to even claim lol.

 

[SoulKiller]

I think you know exactly what you were saying there which is that I play outside the bounds of the game due to petty grievances. Don't think I'm mistaking anything here

Eh, if you wanna view it in that manner be my guest. I explained myself . I don't think you are the type of players who is petty and play outside the bounds of the game, far from it actually. But if you wanna look at it in such manner when I told you that's not the case and elaborated on my thoughts to you. Then nothing I can do about it.

 

[Ratchet]

Since I didnt see the star post I was obviously refering to the rest which is him posting normally.

Tiresome. You missed it and instead moved the goalposts after I pointed out that he didn't enter the thread as himself. Now does that mean he is certain scum? No. Not my argument. Just that your representation was not quite accurate. I also have reasons to town read other slots more than him which comes into play here.

 

[Ultra]

Eh, if you wanna view it in that manner be my guest. I explained myself . I don't think you are the type of players who is petty and play outside the bounds of the game, far from it actually. But if you wanna look at it in such manner when I told you that's not the case and elaborated on my thoughts to you. Then nothing I can do about it.

@Fujishiro Luke I said earlier, guy cant admit when he's wrong. A simple "my bad" would suffice, instead somehow it's my fault for being offended or something. Tsk.

 

[Ratchet]

Cool then Polar Bear was right and it was a waste of time for him to even claim lol.

No, because it forces him into a position/claim which there is value to. I really shouldn't need to be explaining this. You get super into your feelings when you feel like you get treated like a rookie. But then I'm having to explain to you that a player saying "yeah this claim won't clear me" isn't reason to just not pursue the claim of the top wagon. It being true that it doesn't clear him is not the point.

 

[Ultra]

It's ok Soul, you'll get the next one little slugger

 

[Fujishiro]

Tiresome.

Im not even arguing about you if hes scum or not here just dont like the fact that youre nitpicking over one post.

Oh whatever I cba.

 

[Fujishiro]

No, because it forces him into a position/claim which there is value to. I really shouldn't need to be explaining this. You get super into your feelings when you feel like you get treated like a rookie. But then I'm having to explain to you that a player saying "yeah this claim won't clear me" isn't reason to just not pursue the claim of the top wagon. It being true that it doesn't clear him is not the point.

I dont disagree its NAI which then you should try and look into how and why he claimed. Which I did, feel free to address those posts.

 

[Ratchet]

That's just how it feels whenever I see you two in a game. Always seem to be on each other throat, am I wrong?

What relevance does that have to this game? Ultra has given his reasoning, you could address that instead of implying that he's just spiting Polar.

 

[SoulKiller]

@Fujishiro Luke I said earlier, guy cant admit when he's wrong. A simple "my bad" would suffice, instead somehow it's my fault for being offended or something. Tsk.

See, this is simply not true. I apologised and told you that what you percieved it is not what my intentions were and explained my thought process. Truly. I literally have no reason to lie here. I didn't mean it to come across like that.

 

[Ratchet]

I dont disagree its NAI which then you should try and look into how and why he claimed. Which I did, feel free to address those posts.

Yes I did, he said he would never do it then slowly walked down from that position in a way that enabled him to appeal to someone who was voting him. Lo and behold, he is now being defended by him. I really hate you always act like you're the only one thinking about someone's play on the macro, so I'll tell you what I'll do, I'll mostly just disregard your posts until I feel like there is a salient point being made, sound good?

 

[Fujishiro]

Sure, but he is okay lynching still. Keeping a second backup player to vote here does not change that fact. Like I expect him to revaluate the slot here. Even attempt atleast. You see what I am saying?

Well yeah I mean he still wants to lynch him because the claim itself is NAI and Ratchet isnt the type of guy to try and understand Polar Bears psychological reasons for why he said or did what he did.

I tend to overthink, he doesnt. Not sure which one is better though lol.

 

[Fujishiro]

Sure, but he is okay lynching still. Keeping a second backup player to vote here does not change that fact. Like I expect him to revaluate the slot here. Even attempt atleast. You see what I am saying?

Well yeah I mean he still wants to lynch him because the claim itself is NAI and Ratchet isnt the type of guy to try and understand Polar Bears psychological reasons for why he said or did what he did.

I tend to overthink, he doesnt. Not sure which one is better though lol.

 

[Ratchet]

Sure, but he is okay lynching still. Keeping a second backup player to vote here does not change that fact. Like I expect him to revaluate the slot here. Even attempt atleast. You see what I am saying?

Why should I be flipping my read over the claim. That's what you mean by "re-evaluating", yes? Because I've looked at how he claimed, what he claimed, and what I had on him prior, and find that nothing really changes. I don't think he's town. There is also a factor here in that where I lose some confidence, I'm happy to give Ultra his lynch because I think Ultra is town and he tends to have a very good read on Polar. That's called "functioning as part of a team", you should give it a try.

 

[Ultra]

See, this is simply not true. I apologised and told you that what you percieved it is not what my intentions were and explained my thought process. Truly. I literally have no reason to lie here. I didn't mean it to come across like that.

It was a very roundabout apology but sure I'll take it.

Bottom line is you're wrong, and have been proven wrong, so where does that leave you? Because at this point I don't see why you just don't, for example, let me get my flip and evaluate from there. Instead you keep playing this weird tug of war. You're free to push your perspective here but I think a lot of your defense here of him is unsolicited and makes me wonder wtf you are doing