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#23
I think the biggest counter point to this being a COC clash is no fodder was knocked out from it or no one mentions COC being used. Everything else could be atributted to inconsistency in drawings. :beckmoji:
So It could go either way tbh and won't probably be cleared up till the Anime :milaugh:
 
#26
That's not a named attack.
It's just a DF technique to compensate his lack of Haki compared to Garp. Basically if you believe Kuzan didn't use AdvCoC, it's Ice Glove + ACoA = Garp's AdvCoC.
No i'm saying..

Ice Glove + AdCoC = Garp's AdCoC
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Oda makes it very obvious who is using CoC

with Garp you have deep black lightning coming from him before the punch is even thrown.


Kuzan, however, just uses his ice powers
You every single Haki lightning trails every shown is CoA.. CoC and AdCoC is mostly invisible..
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So zoro learned it within 1 minute and Garp's super disciple and former admiral has not learned it within decades?


It's a CoA clash, accept it




Zoro is a CoA clash..

Aokiji is a AdCoC Clash..

Completely different..
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I think the biggest counter point to this being a COC clash is no fodder was knocked out from it or no one mentions COC being used. Everything else could be atributted to inconsistency in drawings. :beckmoji:
So It could go either way tbh and won't probably be cleared up till the Anime :milaugh:
Fodders are usually not knocked out by AdCoC..
 
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#27
do u guys even have a common understanding about what is COA, COC, Adv COA, & Adv COC before start arguing ? lmao

define the term first, then define it's characteristic / features, then u can start debate & arguing about the usage.
let me help u guys about the definition (from official souce):

Busoshoku Haki (武装色の覇気?, Armament Haki), which allows the user to use their own spiritual energy as armor to defend against attacks, as well as make their own attacks more potent. It can also be used to bypass Devil Fruit defenses, such as Logia intangibility. A person can apply the armament to a section of their body, over their entire body, and even imbue it onto their weapons. A coating of Busoshoku will cause the coated area to turn a shiny black, and a particularly thick and powerful coating will have a flame-like pattern along its edge.
  • An advanced level of Busoshoku allows the user to emit the armament a short distance without a medium.
    • A higher grade of advanced Busoshoku allows the user to make the emitted armament flow into a target's body and destroy it from the inside out.

Haoshoku Haki (覇王色の覇気?, Conqueror's Haki), which grants the user the ability to unleash their own willpower to overpower the will of others. This results in victims being mentally overwhelmed by the user, with particularly weak-willed foes instantly losing consciousness. It can also apply pressure onto objects and damage them, a clash between two particularly strong Haoshoku users is capable of "splitting the heavens". Unlike the other types of Haki which can be learned by anyone, Haoshoku is rare ability that only one in several million people are born with the ability to use.
  • An advanced level of Haoshoku allows the user to infuse their conquering spirit into their weapons and physical attacks, greatly augmenting their power. Only a small handful of the most powerful Haoshoku users are able to achieve this.
  • Another advanced level of Haoshoku allows for the ability to manipulate one's aura or presence, which negates an opponent's ability to sense the user with Kenbunshoku Haki

The point about COA : it also can create a RANGED/DISTANCE ATTACK, so NOT all distance attack is Adv COC
The point about COC : it is a MENTAL DAMAGE, so when they clashed weak-willed crowd around there will lose consciousness
 
#28
do u guys even have a common understanding about what is COA, COC, Adv COA, & Adv COC before start arguing ? lmao

define the term first, then define it's characteristic / features, then u can start debate & arguing about the usage.
let me help u guys about the definition (from official souce):

Busoshoku Haki (武装色の覇気?, Armament Haki), which allows the user to use their own spiritual energy as armor to defend against attacks, as well as make their own attacks more potent. It can also be used to bypass Devil Fruit defenses, such as Logia intangibility. A person can apply the armament to a section of their body, over their entire body, and even imbue it onto their weapons. A coating of Busoshoku will cause the coated area to turn a shiny black, and a particularly thick and powerful coating will have a flame-like pattern along its edge.
  • An advanced level of Busoshoku allows the user to emit the armament a short distance without a medium.
    • A higher grade of advanced Busoshoku allows the user to make the emitted armament flow into a target's body and destroy it from the inside out.

Haoshoku Haki (覇王色の覇気?, Conqueror's Haki), which grants the user the ability to unleash their own willpower to overpower the will of others. This results in victims being mentally overwhelmed by the user, with particularly weak-willed foes instantly losing consciousness. It can also apply pressure onto objects and damage them, a clash between two particularly strong Haoshoku users is capable of "splitting the heavens". Unlike the other types of Haki which can be learned by anyone, Haoshoku is rare ability that only one in several million people are born with the ability to use.
  • An advanced level of Haoshoku allows the user to infuse their conquering spirit into their weapons and physical attacks, greatly augmenting their power. Only a small handful of the most powerful Haoshoku users are able to achieve this.
  • Another advanced level of Haoshoku allows for the ability to manipulate one's aura or presence, which negates an opponent's ability to sense the user with Kenbunshoku Haki

The point about COA : it also can create a RANGED/DISTANCE ATTACK, so NOT all distance attack is Adv COC
The point about COC : it is a MENTAL DAMAGE, so when they clashed weak-willed crowd around there will lose consciousness
But you need a medium for CoA distance attack, or a special sword.. In this case the medium was AdCoC

There won't be loss of consciouness as much when it's AdCoC..
 
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