Character Discussion Stop dreaming Gaban will ever be as relevant as Rayleigh

Story wise, which 1 is Gaban's relevance closer to?

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Topi Jerami

Topi Jerami

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#1
#1
Unlike Gaban's bum ass, Rayleigh is very important character.

- Made his debut in chapter 500 (unlike Gaban who appears randomly in 1139)
- Just look at how Rayleigh made his debut, flexing CoC and made everyone aware of his aura. Compare that to Gaban made his debut attacking fodder Road and missed.

- Fucked Admiral Kizaru and made him frustrated.
- Invaded Marineford once.
He embarrassed Kizaru and went to Marineford, all without any consequence. Whole Navy knows he lives freely in Sabaody (which is not under any Yonko's protection unlike Elbaf, and actually pretty close to Marineford iirc), even Hero of the Navy Garp highly worried of him, yet they all did nothing to Rayleigh.
- Became Luffy's personal mentor during timeskip.
- Fucked the Sabaody Navy once more right after timeskip, and again no consequence.
- Rescued Hancock.
- Made Yonko Blackbeard retreating.
- Have Godlike reputation.


All happened while Gaban hid his ass in his former junior's territory. Dude basically admitting he's afraid of Kaido, sharing same little dick energy with Greenshoes.

He won't even become relevant anymore after Elbaf arc (that's assuming he survives and not actually getting killed when he jobs to Shamrock to complete the Sanji's parallel in being perfect hype tool). After Elbaf arc he only appears in cover story or a few small panels every 50 chapters or so.

Unlike Rayleigh which becomes 1 of most important character in the manga, Gaban is most likely one arc only character. Another relic of the past, like Don Chinjao. Well probably slightly less than Chinjao, because at least Oda gives CoC to Chinjao.

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Kiri

Kiri

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#9
#9
Do you have some type of hormone deficiency to start hating on Scopper in just one chapter?

And with dogshit arguments too.

Wdym missed? how do you know he was trying to hit road? why would he try to kill him?

The garp panel you're showing applies to scopper too, and depending on how it goes, all Those panels will. But to me it's obvious they all do.

We're seeing him much later when the power levels are also much higher, now seeing coc being used like that is not impressive, even katakuri can do that shit.

Unlike Ray who just retired and got rusty and just lives a quiet life, Scopper likes the chaos, he literally said so. He would've also just ignored the strange haki from shamrock/gunko appearing, but he didn't he was willing to investigate.

And who knows maybe Scopper has been upkeeping with his training and staying sharp the whole time, and now he's literally testing Yonko luffy, when he already knows Luffy beat Kaido.

That's aura :goyea:
 
soupongo

soupongo

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#13
#13
I like Rayleigh a lot, and he has good scenes, but he is literally a plot device. As people have pointed out, he didn't fight at the big pre times climax, the Marineford war. Rayleigh's relevance is basically training Luffy in Haki(basically any new world pirate could have done this),giving some good lore on Roger though this could have been done by anyone in the crew, and it wasn't even really needed for the SH, protecting the SH from Kizaru which is good but it was Kuma who actually saved the SH. Yes he saved Hancock, which is important, but this is really not some ceiling Gaban could never reach
 
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BoaHancocksHusband

BoaHancocksHusband

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#15
#15
Topi Jerami said:
Unlike Gaban's bum ass, Rayleigh is very important character.

- Made his debut in chapter 500 (unlike Gaban who appears randomly in 1139)
- Just look at how Rayleigh made his debut, flexing CoC and made everyone aware of his aura. Compare that to Gaban made his debut attacking fodder Road and missed.

- Fucked Admiral Kizaru and made him frustrated.
- Invaded Marineford once.
He embarrassed Kizaru and went to Marineford, all without any consequence. Whole Navy knows he lives freely in Sabaody (which is not under any Yonko's protection unlike Elbaf, and actually pretty close to Marineford iirc), even Hero of the Navy Garp highly worried of him, yet they all did nothing to Rayleigh.
- Became Luffy's personal mentor during timeskip.
- Fucked the Sabaody Navy once more right after timeskip, and again no consequence.
- Rescued Hancock.
- Made Yonko Blackbeard retreating.
- Have Godlike reputation.


All happened while Gaban hid his ass in his former junior's territory. Dude basically admitting he's afraid of Kaido, sharing same little dick energy with Greenshoes.

He won't even become relevant anymore after Elbaf arc (that's assuming he survives and not actually getting killed when he jobs to Shamrock to complete the Sanji's parallel in being perfect hype tool). After Elbaf arc he only appears in cover story or a few small panels every 50 chapters or so.

Unlike Rayleigh which becomes 1 of most important character in the manga, Gaban is most likely one arc only character. Another relic of the past, like Don Chinjao. Well probably slightly less than Chinjao, because at least Oda gives CoC to Chinjao.

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@kekaro @Kurozumi Wiwi @Sir Yasheen @Elder Lee Hung @MonochromeYoru @Infitima @Sentinel etc.
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These past 2 chapters we saw Scopper more than Rayleigh
Checkmate
 
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