Character Discussion STOP Hating on SHP; Egghead Performance Was Top

[Wano Never Happened]

All right guys, so I've been seeing a lot of people on here that have been reading Two Piece recently, and it's honestly getting ridiculous. Y'all are just hating for the sake of hating.

Now that the arc is almost over, we can look back and see how perfectly it has showcased how the Straw Hats have officially become a Yonkou crew, and that they can go toe-to-toe with the top tiers in the world.

Almost immediately after boarding land, they make a connection with Vegapunk and Sentomarou, and Luffy keeps Lucci away no problem:

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They SUCCESSFULLY keep Vegapunk and allies safe, as per their promise to them:

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Half the crew is no problem to handle Saturn, who we know isn't all that much of a threat in hindsight:

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After saving Bonney, they continue protecting Vegapunk, knowing how important it is:

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Rest of the Gorosei shows up = no problem:

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Escape to Giant's ship is succesful, Luffy coordinates Sunny-Go's safe landing and protects the Giants:

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Gorosei are persistent, so Luffy goes his peak Nika form and gets rid of them, while making everyone laugh around him in Nika-fashion:

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Mission success.

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[Water1415]

I agree, hate should go to Oda for treating them like garbage, they are his characters after all, he's spent 20 years developing them just to piss on them

 

[RoronoaZorro]

Trashing Sanji is already became an obsession to seek excitement, so it's hard to get off that.

 

[Guymieux]

Most of the jobbing was done by the warrior of science

 

[RebelliousSoma]

all are just hating for the sake of hating.

Wrong. There were inconsistencies and events that made absolutely no sense and therefore shouldn't be there.

I agree, hate should go to Oda for treating them like garbage,

It's not hate. It's discontent and it does go where it needs to go.

Trashing Sanji is already became an obsession

Oda was clowning Sanji for no reason.
Same for Zoro who turned out to be able to one shot Lucci.
Luffy's fights were meaningless in hindsight when he could have owned his opponents.


Worst part of the arc is how Saturn is still not dead and didn't fall into the sea. Oda needs to calm down with the near misses.

 

[Wano Never Happened]

Trashing Sanji is already became an obsession to seek excitement, so it's hard to get off that.

I'm gonna be honest, I was speedreading the arc again for this and it's hard to deny that Oda really likes to shit on him. I don't actually have an anti-Sanji agenda, but most of the fun jobbing moments from the SHP turns out to be from him.

Wrong. There were inconsistencies and events that made absolutely no sense and therefore shouldn't be there.

You didn't look at my proof.

 

[Jailer]

Honorable mention of Zoro the master staller according to his fanboys, 1 Gorosei and 1 Admiral and he didn't opt to one tap Lucci, until it became too late which isn't even a one shot anymore.

 

[Welkin]

Realistically if you look at the entire arc they performed better than some other Yonko crews would

- The BMP's would've been fucked even if you take out the whole Gorosei section

- Kizaru is a crazy speedster while Big Mom is far too slow to catch him

- He could go all around the island cleaning up her entire crew before fighting her 1v1

- No one in BM's crew (besides Katakuri) could even handle Lucci

- Throw Kaku and the Seraphim in there and they get swept

You would need a PK tier crew to handle everything the Strawhats went through on Egghead and come out (mostly) clean

 

[MonsterKaido]

Luffy , zoro and sanji yeah.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

You didn't look at my proof.

I looked at it and disagree with a lot there. Saturn was a strong opponent, partly because of Oda's bullshit writing, making Luffy chase Kizaru around and then not fighting Saturn properly. Why does Luffy never think of drowning them in the sea when he's a giant?

Some good feats here and there but Oda was obsessed with making the SHs leave the Island.

Also only Lilith survived.

 

[Wano Never Happened]

I looked at it and disagree with a lot there. Saturn was a strong opponent, partly because of Oda's bullshit writing, making Luffy chase Kizaru around and then not fighting Saturn properly. Why does Luffy never think of drowning them in the sea when he's a giant?

Some good feats here and there but Oda was obsessed with making the SHs leave the Island.

Also only Lilith survived.

I mean, this entire thread is just a shitpost. I'm trying to make fun of people who think the Straw Hats did anything right, because at the end of the day, as it currently stands, their presence at Egghead has amounted to basically nothing at all.

Luffy beating Lucci did nothing, because he just let him run rampant afterwards.
They don't even care about protecting Vegapunk, and even if they did they failed miserably. Sento and Stussy also get heavily wounded because of their incompetence and negligence.
They have to get bailed out by other characters constantly, because they either can't be bothered to try, or they're genuinely not capable enough.
Luffy doesn't even care what happens to his crew anymore, despite there being immortal enemies, which he knows he can't beat, chasing them. He doesn't even know where they are when he gets to the Giant's ship.
And then to top it off, Emeth sacrifices himself in front of Luffy's eyes, who then says, "I don't know where the Gorosei went, they just disappeared lol." Luffy is genuinely nothing more than a plank of wood now - it's like he doesn't even exist in the same universe as the things happening around him.

You can pick out some good feats here and there as far as fighting goes, but unfortunately the actual end result is that the SHP just failed completely this arc. Indeed, Lilith survived so I guess they managed to save 1 out of 6 Vegapunks, that's something I suppose. But this entire Egghead event may as well have happened without the SHP, and nothing would've realistically changed.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

I mean, this entire thread is just a shitpost. I'm trying to make fun of people who think the Straw Hats did anything right, because at the end of the day, as it currently stands, their presence at Egghead has amounted to basically nothing at all.

Luffy beating Lucci did nothing, because he just let him run rampant afterwards.
They don't even care about protecting Vegapunk, and even if they did they failed miserably. Sento and Stussy also get heavily wounded because of their incompetence and negligence.
They have to get bailed out by other characters constantly, because they either can't be bothered to try, or they're genuinely not capable enough.
Luffy doesn't even care what happens to his crew anymore, despite there being immortal enemies, which he knows he can't beat, chasing them. He doesn't even know where they are when he gets to the Giant's ship.
And then to top it off, Emeth sacrifices himself in front of Luffy's eyes, who then says, "I don't know where the Gorosei went, they just disappeared lol." Luffy is genuinely nothing more than a plank of wood now - it's like he doesn't even exist in the same universe as the things happening around him.

You can pick out some good feats here and there as far as fighting goes, but unfortunately the actual end result is that the SHP just failed completely this arc. Indeed, Lilith survived so I guess they managed to save 1 out of 6 Vegapunks, that's something I suppose. But this entire Egghead event may as well have happened without the SHP, and nothing would've realistically changed.

After the York part we could have went straight for the robot melancholic memory and then instantly finish the arc. Same result.

 

[Ven437]

Realistically if you look at the entire arc they performed better than some other Yonko crews would

SHs had massive plot armor and constant help from external factors

- The BMP's would've been fucked even if you take out the whole Gorosei section

BMP fleet >>>>> Egghead forces minus Gorosei

- Kizaru is a crazy speedster while Big Mom is far too slow to catch him

BM point-blank choked Marco who tagged Pizzaru, who gets 2-shot like a fly by ACoC punches

- He could go all around the island cleaning up her entire crew before fighting her 1v1

Like he should have years ago when BM was sitting in the same address fat on her ass gaining influence and power?

- No one in BM's crew (besides Katakuri) could even handle Lucci

Lucci can’t handle Katakuri + Sweet Commander backup

- Throw Kaku and the Seraphim in there and they get swept

Kaku is fodder. Seraphim get chained up by Kairoseki cuffs which BMP have on hand, they get handled by Cracker biscuits and wringled out by Smoothie.

You would need a PK tier crew to handle everything the Strawhats went through on Egghead and come out (mostly) clean

SHs had Emeth, Bonney, Vegapunk to defy Seraphim orders, Stussy double-agent, Elbaf back-up, etc. SH isn’t anywhere near Yonko crew status based on Egghead let alone PK crew

 

[LayerZ]

Nah IT was trash
Luffy defeated no one this arc. This was His first yonko arc and no W.
Lucci? Its Zoro that Got Him and even him couldnt have him unconscious.
Kizaru? Dude chose to stay down out off grief.
Saturn ? Looked like a clown but was never defeated .
All the Gorosei underperformed except Warcury and nusjuro but all of Them are still untouched .
The seraphims? Looks like we did not beat a single of Them we just captured Them with sea water.
IT was terrible.