Chapter Discussion StrawHat crew structure after Wano and parallels with Roger's crew
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I think what's clear now is that M3 and 3 commanders stuff are different... ZSJ is still a thing... The concept of M3 being the counterpart of 3 commanders is dead, it's just now a wank symbol for Zoro and Sanji debate since they will always be Luffy's #1 and #2...
Anyway, to fill in the rest on the parallel:
Luffy: Roger
Zoro: Rayleigh
Nami: Erio
Usopp: Petermoo
Sanji: Gaban
Chopper: Crocus
Robin: Spencer
Franky: Nozdon
Brook: Taro
Jinbe: Sunbell
Yamato: Oden
Anyway, to fill in the rest on the parallel:
Luffy: Roger
Zoro: Rayleigh
Nami: Erio
Usopp: Petermoo
Sanji: Gaban
Chopper: Crocus
Robin: Spencer
Franky: Nozdon
Brook: Taro
Jinbe: Sunbell
Yamato: Oden
Bringing this one back to talk about the recent development and people saying Yamato too strong for the crew; I don't think if anyone has either :
- Read the story enough to realize that the monster trio will never be changed even if you're the most braindead zoro or sanji fan who only talk about powerscaling and agendas you gotta admit/realize LuffyZoroSanji will never change ...
- Been reading weekly from Fishman Island to see this happen all over again , like the denial factor with Jinbei back in the day was insane it started Jinbei >= Luffy then became Jinbei is gonna push Zoro/Sanji down then it became "there's no monster trio we will have Luffy and 3 commanders" (this one is the most hilarious for some time) then it became Luffy > Zoro > Jinbei > Sanji and Sanji being pushed out of the monster trio in early Wano days and now you dont hear any of that BS as ppl realized oh its LuffyZoroSanji always and forever
Parallels with Roger's crew has been pretty strong esepcially for the main fighters
Just like Gold, Silvers and Scopper being the top 3 definitive even by theme (u dont need to be too smart to get this) in Roger's and even when Oden joined same here Yamato is literally the clone of Oden in Luffy's crew
and for the CoC dick suckers, CoC is not the end all be all it is an insane boost but it's more impressive being a top tier without a boost that you're born with (thats why i think it would be baller if Mihawk/Garp didnt have it)
So after Wano the crew is
Roger - Luffy
Rayleigh - Zoro
Gaban - Sanji
Oden - Yamato
Sunbell - Jinbei
...
Shanks/Buggy - Momo/Tama
Also gonna use the same joke I said to some delusional sanji fans some time ago, the mf SANji has literally the number 3 in his name he will never be stronger than Zoro but also he will never be out of the top 3 of the crew
- Read the story enough to realize that the monster trio will never be changed even if you're the most braindead zoro or sanji fan who only talk about powerscaling and agendas you gotta admit/realize LuffyZoroSanji will never change ...
- Been reading weekly from Fishman Island to see this happen all over again , like the denial factor with Jinbei back in the day was insane it started Jinbei >= Luffy then became Jinbei is gonna push Zoro/Sanji down then it became "there's no monster trio we will have Luffy and 3 commanders" (this one is the most hilarious for some time) then it became Luffy > Zoro > Jinbei > Sanji and Sanji being pushed out of the monster trio in early Wano days and now you dont hear any of that BS as ppl realized oh its LuffyZoroSanji always and forever
Parallels with Roger's crew has been pretty strong esepcially for the main fighters
Just like Gold, Silvers and Scopper being the top 3 definitive even by theme (u dont need to be too smart to get this) in Roger's and even when Oden joined same here Yamato is literally the clone of Oden in Luffy's crew
and for the CoC dick suckers, CoC is not the end all be all it is an insane boost but it's more impressive being a top tier without a boost that you're born with (thats why i think it would be baller if Mihawk/Garp didnt have it)
So after Wano the crew is
Roger - Luffy
Rayleigh - Zoro
Gaban - Sanji
Oden - Yamato
Sunbell - Jinbei
...
Shanks/Buggy - Momo/Tama
Also gonna use the same joke I said to some delusional sanji fans some time ago, the mf SANji has literally the number 3 in his name he will never be stronger than Zoro but also he will never be out of the top 3 of the crew
i made it but at the time i made it to compare the top 8 fighters of each crew , i didnt exclude these characters randomly ^^
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
i made it but at the time i made it to compare the top 8 fighters of each crew , i didnt exclude these characters randomly ^^
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
I don't really thing parallels are a thing except for Captain/First mate.
Like Roger and Luffy you can already see parallels when you look at them(Laugh, expressions, facial features etc) , Rayleigh and Zoro (eye scar, sword, expressions and facial features) etc
Now tell me do you see any parallels between Sanji and Gaban when you look at them ? I always go back to the fact that Oda indeed has special treatments for Captains and first mates.
Like Roger and Luffy you can already see parallels when you look at them(Laugh, expressions, facial features etc) , Rayleigh and Zoro (eye scar, sword, expressions and facial features) etc
Now tell me do you see any parallels between Sanji and Gaban when you look at them ? I always go back to the fact that Oda indeed has special treatments for Captains and first mates.
Feels more like a Xebec crew to me honestly at this point!
Luffy (Xebec)
Zoro (Whitebeard)
Yamato/Sanji/Jinbe (Kaido/Big Mom/Shiki)
But it's the SH version of it, so there is no need for parallel, but more like a MIRROR where the SH looks like it's built to surpass every crew in existance!
Remember as of yet, We have TWO confirmed CoC users (Luffy/Zoro) with HIGH Chances of Yamato being user (90% chance if not higher)
and there is still the possibility of other members to show it like Usopp or Sanji (the two highest other candidates for it)
So, the crew is fucking stacked IFFF they got into their prime level!
Luffy (Xebec)
Zoro (Whitebeard)
Yamato/Sanji/Jinbe (Kaido/Big Mom/Shiki)
But it's the SH version of it, so there is no need for parallel, but more like a MIRROR where the SH looks like it's built to surpass every crew in existance!
Remember as of yet, We have TWO confirmed CoC users (Luffy/Zoro) with HIGH Chances of Yamato being user (90% chance if not higher)
and there is still the possibility of other members to show it like Usopp or Sanji (the two highest other candidates for it)
So, the crew is fucking stacked IFFF they got into their prime level!
Agree, kind clear that the only crew that the SH can be compared is the Roger Pirates, the other crews that follow the Emperors model of Captain->3commanders aren't on Pirate King level
But this are making me think if Oda will not join a lot of people to the crew after Wano
-Yama/Oden: thats the most obvious.
-MomoTama/BuggyShanks: Cabin boys, but Luffy could refuse to bring them in the same way Shanks didnt want to take kid Luffy in his ship, would be a cool moment of Luffy thinking more as a mature pirate, with Momo and Tama wanting to join but Luffy saying for them to first grow and become strong, much like Shanks did to him.
-Carrot/Neko&Inu: Intruder Minks that no one invited but join anyway, could be that the same way Neko and Inu were just for a time with the Roger crew Oda make the same with Carrot, with her being just for a time with the SH (from Zou to Wano) and them go back to eat grass in Zou ahaha
But this are making me think if Oda will not join a lot of people to the crew after Wano
-Yama/Oden: thats the most obvious.
-MomoTama/BuggyShanks: Cabin boys, but Luffy could refuse to bring them in the same way Shanks didnt want to take kid Luffy in his ship, would be a cool moment of Luffy thinking more as a mature pirate, with Momo and Tama wanting to join but Luffy saying for them to first grow and become strong, much like Shanks did to him.
-Carrot/Neko&Inu: Intruder Minks that no one invited but join anyway, could be that the same way Neko and Inu were just for a time with the Roger crew Oda make the same with Carrot, with her being just for a time with the SH (from Zou to Wano) and them go back to eat grass in Zou ahaha
i made it but at the time i made it to compare the top 8 fighters of each crew , i didnt exclude these characters randomly ^^
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
Guess Yassop is now Yamatos fight.
Already had Big Mom steal Usopps fight with Page One.
Shit Yamato might get Argur as well
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Nah, that ain't his fight anymore.
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i made it but at the time i made it to compare the top 8 fighters of each crew , i didnt exclude these characters randomly ^^
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
Shiki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lolden.
Silver Axe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Scopper Background.
i made it but at the time i made it to compare the top 8 fighters of each crew , i didnt exclude these characters randomly ^^
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
Oden got beaten by Gaban. Don't be upset cause it is true Gaban is stronger than Oden.
Come back when Chopper isn't crying on his side when Queen was over him, bruh. Queen was playing around with him and it is even stated 
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I feel bad for Rayleigh who is on garbage side though. He would not faint to Kamazou like Zolo did.
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Nah, It is Yamato, Jimbei, and Zoro.
When Nami can fight her own battles and not get help from Yonko to beat her opponent, we can say, but she didn't do much in her fight to stand a chance.
Will say she does give more orders in Rayleigh aspect though.
Then you must feel bad on Luffy having COC after what happen to Ace and he nearly give up his dream. Stop acting like idiot and thinking COC don't have emotions. You guys are really petty toxic if you can't admit on the canon.
Nah, she isn't. Occupation doesn't mean same portrayal unless you want say Usopp or Franky are Rayleigh since they work the ship repairs since Rayleigh started out with ship of his own.
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Nah, not changing. You guys were forcing Jimbei to be one in that spot and now your changing direction to someone else. It's clear Oda see value in M3 or going with Luffy being Yonko and his YCs are Zoro, Sanji, and Yamato. Trying to force it away after Oda work on bond between trio is more desperation Head Piece, nothing in any sense especially it is clear Sanji will get COC given many hints on him.
You need change on certain crews especially Blackbeard one as Shiryu is not his First Mate, Burgess is, so you have to change that. Shiryu would be on same on left-hand man given he is in 2nd Ship as stated while Burgess have 1st Ship.
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Zoro is not Whitebeard as think Sanji is in that role while Zoro is more Big Mom or Shiki perhaps.
Scopper Background must have been as garbage as his parallel.
.I feel bad for Rayleigh who is on garbage side though. He would not faint to Kamazou like Zolo did.
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Nah, It is Yamato, Jimbei, and Zoro.
When Nami can fight her own battles and not get help from Yonko to beat her opponent, we can say, but she didn't do much in her fight to stand a chance.
Will say she does give more orders in Rayleigh aspect though.
Then you must feel bad on Luffy having COC after what happen to Ace and he nearly give up his dream. Stop acting like idiot and thinking COC don't have emotions. You guys are really petty toxic if you can't admit on the canon.
Nah, she isn't. Occupation doesn't mean same portrayal unless you want say Usopp or Franky are Rayleigh since they work the ship repairs since Rayleigh started out with ship of his own.
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Nah, not changing. You guys were forcing Jimbei to be one in that spot and now your changing direction to someone else. It's clear Oda see value in M3 or going with Luffy being Yonko and his YCs are Zoro, Sanji, and Yamato. Trying to force it away after Oda work on bond between trio is more desperation Head Piece, nothing in any sense especially it is clear Sanji will get COC given many hints on him.
i made it but at the time i made it to compare the top 8 fighters of each crew , i didnt exclude these characters randomly ^^
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
here's the full pic (also most likely i took 8 cuz shanks' and rocks' crews has only known 8 fighters and it made since this way cuz after the 8th fighter it went downhill for most crews anyway)
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Zoro is not Whitebeard as think Sanji is in that role while Zoro is more Big Mom or Shiki perhaps.
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Oden got beaten by Gaban. Don't be upset cause it is true Gaban is stronger than Oden.
Come back when Chopper isn't crying on his side when Queen was over him, bruh. Queen was playing around with him and it is even stated.
I feel bad for Rayleigh who is on garbage side though. He would not faint to Kamazou like Zolo did.
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Nah, It is Yamato, Jimbei, and Zoro.
When Nami can fight her own battles and not get help from Yonko to beat her opponent, we can say, but she didn't do much in her fight to stand a chance.
Will say she does give more orders in Rayleigh aspect though.
Then you must feel bad on Luffy having COC after what happen to Ace and he nearly give up his dream. Stop acting like idiot and thinking COC don't have emotions. You guys are really petty toxic if you can't admit on the canon.
Nah, she isn't. Occupation doesn't mean same portrayal unless you want say Usopp or Franky are Rayleigh since they work the ship repairs since Rayleigh started out with ship of his own.
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Nah, not changing. You guys were forcing Jimbei to be one in that spot and now your changing direction to someone else. It's clear Oda see value in M3 or going with Luffy being Yonko and his YCs are Zoro, Sanji, and Yamato. Trying to force it away after Oda work on bond between trio is more desperation Head Piece, nothing in any sense especially it is clear Sanji will get COC given many hints on him.
You need change on certain crews especially Blackbeard one as Shiryu is not his First Mate, Burgess is, so you have to change that. Shiryu would be on same on left-hand man given he is in 2nd Ship as stated while Burgess have 1st Ship.
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Zoro is not Whitebeard as think Sanji is in that role while Zoro is more Big Mom or Shiki perhaps.
Come back when Chopper isn't crying on his side when Queen was over him, bruh. Queen was playing around with him and it is even stated
.I feel bad for Rayleigh who is on garbage side though. He would not faint to Kamazou like Zolo did.
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Nah, It is Yamato, Jimbei, and Zoro.
When Nami can fight her own battles and not get help from Yonko to beat her opponent, we can say, but she didn't do much in her fight to stand a chance.
Will say she does give more orders in Rayleigh aspect though.
Then you must feel bad on Luffy having COC after what happen to Ace and he nearly give up his dream. Stop acting like idiot and thinking COC don't have emotions. You guys are really petty toxic if you can't admit on the canon.
Nah, she isn't. Occupation doesn't mean same portrayal unless you want say Usopp or Franky are Rayleigh since they work the ship repairs since Rayleigh started out with ship of his own.
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Nah, not changing. You guys were forcing Jimbei to be one in that spot and now your changing direction to someone else. It's clear Oda see value in M3 or going with Luffy being Yonko and his YCs are Zoro, Sanji, and Yamato. Trying to force it away after Oda work on bond between trio is more desperation Head Piece, nothing in any sense especially it is clear Sanji will get COC given many hints on him.
You need change on certain crews especially Blackbeard one as Shiryu is not his First Mate, Burgess is, so you have to change that. Shiryu would be on same on left-hand man given he is in 2nd Ship as stated while Burgess have 1st Ship.
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Zoro is not Whitebeard as think Sanji is in that role while Zoro is more Big Mom or Shiki perhaps.
Excuse after excuse
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