Powers & Abilities Swordsman and haki user two different things.

[TheSufferingGob]

How can anyone still opening topic like this after Wano?

The problem with Copium is it's infinite

 

[Rootbeer]

The problem with Copium is it's infinite

What do you make of Vista having a higher Swordsmanship title than Shanks?..

Vista - Sword Grandmaster
Shanks - Sword Master

 

[TheSufferingGob]

What do you make of Vista having a higher Swordsmanship title than Shanks?..

Vista - Sword Grandmaster
Shanks - Sword Master

Where does it say that?
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That question fells like bait especially since if shanks was ever called a swords master even his stans would not be dumb enough to call him a hakiman

 

[HA001]

What do you make of Vista having a higher Swordsmanship title than Shanks?..

Vista - Sword Grandmaster
Shanks - Sword Master

Why are you avoiding zoro being called a dai kengo pre skip
Is pre skip zoro a stronger swordsman than Shanks?

 

[Rootbeer]

Why are you avoiding zoro being called a dai kengo pre skip
Is pre skip zoro a stronger swordsman than Shanks?

Show me where..

 

[HA001]

Show me where..

@spawn just showed you.

 

[Rootbeer]

@spawn just showed you.

lt doesn't say Daikengou, it says Kengou, Sword Master.. And Sanji was talking generally because it was Zoro's goal..
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Where does it say that?
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That question fells like bait especially since if shanks was ever called a swords master even his stans would not be dumb enough to call him a hakiman

Databook Blue deep says Vista is Daikengou, Sword Grandmaster..

And here it says that Shanks is a Sword Master..

 

[TheSufferingGob]

lt doesn't say Daikengou, it says Kengou, Sword Master.. And Sanji was talking generally because it was Zoro's goal..
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Databook Blue deep says Vista is Daikengou, Sword Grandmaster..

And here it says that Shanks is a Sword Master..

oh cool, Ive never seen the film red material

honestly I just think the Vista stuff is just dated as fuk like all of marineford and more Shanks swordsman confirmation is fun.

 

[Formerly Seth]

So what is zoro then?

Haki bar enthusiast.

 

[TheSufferingGob]

Haki bar enthusiast.

my fellow haki stick believer

 

[Formerly Seth]

my fellow haki stick believer

Will bar.

 

[Rootbeer]

Also to disprove your point.

When Brannew is talking about Mihawk's bounty he doesn't mention Mihawk's bounty being inflated by the Cross Guild stuff.

Here 2 Cross Guild scenarios..

Example 1

Mihawk get his WSS Bounty - 3.590 Billion

Buggy and Crocodile get increase for their part for their threat level part from Mihawk..

Buggy - 3.189 Billion
Crocodile - 1.965 Billion


Example 2

Buggy gets his Bounty first- 3.189 Billion

Mihawk and Crocodile get their Bounty upgraded for the Creation of Cross Guild with the 3 of them..

Mihawk - from 2.590 Billion to 3.590 Billion
Crocodile - from 965 Million to - 1.965 Billion


The 2nd seems more likely to me..

 

[Formerly Seth]

Here 2 Cross Guild scenarios..

Example 1

Mihawk get his WSS Bounty - 3.590 Billion

Buggy and Crocodile get increase for their part for their threat level part from Mihawk..

Buggy - 3.189 Billion
Crocodile - 1.965 Billion


Example 2

Buggy gets his Bounty first- 3.189 Billion

Mihawk and Crocodile get their Bounty upgraded for the Creation of Cross Guild with the 3 of them..

Mihawk - from 2.590 Billion to 3.590 Billion
Crocodile - from 965 Million to - 1.965 Billion


The 2nd seems more likely to me..

2nd one makes no sense since Mihawk has the highest bounty despite Buggy being mistaken for the Cross Guild leader.

Doesn't bother me.

 

[Rootbeer]

2nd one makes no sense since Mihawk has the highest bounty despite Buggy being mistaken for the Cross Guild leader.

Doesn't bother me.

Maybe it makes sense since it's not a pirate crew but a pirate Alliance..

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Maybe it makes sense since it's not a pirate crew but a pirate Alliance..

Except the world government literally stated that they gave buggy thay bounty since he has command over the other two lol

 

[Seatonnes]

Why are people still debating this

 

[Rootbeer]

Except the world government literally stated that they gave buggy thay bounty since he has command over the other two lol

The ring leader, just like Luffy was in WCl, doesn't mean he commands them word for word..

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

The ring leader, just like Luffy was in WCl, doesn't mean he commands them word for word..

But that's what the world government stated and think

 

[TheSufferingGob]

Here 2 Cross Guild scenarios..

Example 1

Mihawk get his WSS Bounty - 3.590 Billion

Buggy and Crocodile get increase for their part for their threat level part from Mihawk..

Buggy - 3.189 Billion
Crocodile - 1.965 Billion


Example 2

Buggy gets his Bounty first- 3.189 Billion

Mihawk and Crocodile get their Bounty upgraded for the Creation of Cross Guild with the 3 of them..

Mihawk - from 2.590 Billion to 3.590 Billion
Crocodile - from 965 Million to - 1.965 Billion


The 2nd seems more likely to me..

2nd one would be more likely if Mihawk wasnt higher than buggy
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but Sadly he is higher than his "boss"

 

[Rootbeer]

Swordsmanship is more CoA oriented..

And Top tier Haki users are more CoC oriented.. Hence the Conquering..

That's why pretimeskip Zoro got CoA and Luffy CoC..
That's why every Zoro fans are confusing CoA koH+CoC for AdCoC..
CoC will play a part in the road to WSS but nowhere near as the road to Pirate king..

CoC Coating is not imbued Haki, it's like a Shabondy Bubble around you..