the only ones capable of doing large dc moves are pizzaro and aokiji
kuzan didnt do it cause large range fodder control wouldnt work on garp
and pizzaro still did some damage to his surrounding by lifting his hand up
And Vasco, and Sanjuan Wolf, and Garp.
Did Kuzan use large range fodder control against Akainu? Or do you think Kuzan and Akainu were just jumping around Punk Hazard to do as much damage?
Yes, and he would do far more damage if everything was turned into brittle ice.
them dying solely depends on whether kuzan removes his technique or not
god knows for how long these pirates were frozen
but they still survived after kuzan undid his powers
I figured more like at Punk Hazard, where the overall temperature gets so cold, Straw Hats started freezing almost to death.
Also, Chopper thought Robin is in a near death state, so I'd inclined to think they weren't frozen for a long while.
1. most of them wont die
2. capturing garp is actually a huge priority , thats literally the ace in teach's mega plan
1) If they get caught in Haki blasts or town being turned upside down, while being frozen? Or being exposed to sudden temperature decrease over entire island?
2) Yes, good thing they can (and did) accomplish both. There was some environmental damage, but that was purely due to Garp, BBP hadn't directly did any.
akainu's fruit is more lethal than kuzan's but that doesnt mean their strength aint the same
What's the difference then? How is their strength the same if one is better by order of magnitude?
kuzan was the biggest force against garp
thats what this fight meant , but u also cant ignore shiryu standing around garp
If we were meant to believe Shiryuu finished Garp off, it would be implied. But Kuzan's attack is shown piercing him and Kuzan has said he "aimed to kill Garp"
and yeah that post is mostly abt kuzan doing more attacks than ice glove so i dont think ice glove is his peak of logia
Then I am slightly confused what the argument is. Because if we are arguing that Kuzan wasn't significantly nerfed due to environment here, we are saying that IG and random freeze stabs are the only advantage to his fruit (which would make it dogshit) against top tiers, as his fists and Haki are far more powerful than basic freezing attacks.