General & Others Team Ulti or Team Black Maria?

Ulti or Black Maria?

  • Ulti

    Votes: 78 59.1%
  • Black Maria

    Votes: 54 40.9%

  • Total voters
    132
#81
I know what you mean, just Girls who doesent't care if they get dirty when in Action (Sport, Fighting, ect.), who are natural and fun loving who enjoys the Company of others and are easy to talk, like to your bestfriend without Feeling awkward.
A Girl who embraces her wild "boyish" nature as well as there feminity and finds the Right balance for a energetic and symphatic character.
Hmmm basically. I'd say.
 
#82
I know what you mean, just Girls who doesent't care if they get dirty when in Action (Sport, Fighting, ect.), who are natural and fun loving who enjoys the Company of others and are easy to talk, like to your bestfriend without Feeling awkward.
A Girl who embraces her wild "boyish" nature as well as there feminity and finds the Right balance for a energetic and symphatic character.
Yep... just being natural and herself...
I hate faking things
Even edgy characters.. I like edgy character but to a specific point... the moment I feel that a certain character is ACTING edgy to look cool... and that's not part of his nature... I lose interest in that character... (excluding characters like Katakuri) who are actually SELF-AWARE that their nature is not being edgy and that they simply had to act perfect for reasons like protecting family and scaring people who would attack his family...

But generally.. someone like Katakuri is very self-aware that he's not that guy... he's more like Luffy... loves Donuts... loves to sip a cup of tea... loves to lay on his back... vulgar LMAO... I have so much respect for that... because the front is not compensating for insecurity... rather te front is serving a purpose for not allowing ANYONE to cross his family over... thus his family majority of times is kept safe under the imprission that "Katakuri is the boggy-man... never cross Big Mom family, or else he'll come for you"

However, the majority of this website knows me as someone who HATES Trafalgar Law... because I simply think that he is HIS NATURE is not edgy... but he ACTS like an edgy character... to a point I feel it's just fake...

On the other hand... I prefer character who have Swag/funk and generally more colorful BUUUUUT on certain occasions.. on specific events... where moment requires seriousness... this character really looks EDGY... because this sprinkle of flavor of edginess comes out NATURALLY...

This is why I appreciate Queen's character up to this moment MORE than King or Jack... he just is the true highlight of Calamity for me.. so god damn awesome
 
#84
Yep... just being natural and herself...
I hate faking things
Even edgy characters.. I like edgy character but to a specific point... the moment I feel that a certain character is ACTING edgy to look cool... and that's not part of his nature... I lose interest in that character... (excluding characters like Katakuri) who are actually SELF-AWARE that their nature is not being edgy and that they simply had to act perfect for reasons like protecting family and scaring people who would attack his family...

But generally.. someone like Katakuri is very self-aware that he's not that guy... he's more like Luffy... loves Donuts... loves to sip a cup of tea... loves to lay on his back... vulgar LMAO... I have so much respect for that... because the front is not compensating for insecurity... rather te front is serving a purpose for not allowing ANYONE to cross his family over... thus his family majority of times is kept safe under the imprission that "Katakuri is the boggy-man... never cross Big Mom family, or else he'll come for you"

However, the majority of this website knows me as someone who HATES Trafalgar Law... because I simply think that he is HIS NATURE is not edgy... but he ACTS like an edgy character... to a point I feel it's just fake...

On the other hand... I prefer character who have Swag/funk and generally more colorful BUUUUUT on certain occasions.. on specific events... where moment requires seriousness... this character really looks EDGY... because this sprinkle of flavor of edginess comes out NATURALLY...

This is why I appreciate Queen's character up to this moment MORE than King or Jack... he just is the true highlight of Calamity for me.. so god damn awesome
Question. Would Robin fit under being fake then? Or do you consider her now being Fake?
 
#85
Question. Would Robin fit under being fake then? Or do you consider her now being Fake?
No... she isn't faking it... because we have seen her cheerful side more and more with the crew... and this is simply the result of having some character development which went from:

- Someone who doesn't trust anyone..keeps huge secrets... afraid of her crew turning on her at one point ----> a more cheerful/colorful... but her dark side is still there BECAUSE she was establised since she was 8 years during Ohara... in fact even before that being raised by her uncle with no mother.. no father... being somewhat alone EVEN IN HER CHILDHOOD... sure professor Clover was there... but still you can see that "Lone wolf" side from her when she met Jaguar D. Saul... as their dialog reflected her character that she is lonely... and doesn't have much friends who understand her... So she is not simply trying to "act" Edgy... it's simply no one has given her the chance to be their friends...

However at same time... the more she got to know Jaguar D. Saul... and the more she became friends with him... she started to laugh like him "derishishishi" iconic laugh... and when she LOST everything (her mother/Ohara/Professor clover/Jaguar D. Saul)

She reverted back to being alone... and she stayed that way UNTIL she met the SHs... until Enies Lobby incident... where she had BIG FEAR that the SHs will turn out just like everyone she tried to take shelter with... where they all turned on her once they realized how threatening the WG is...

But after Enies Lobby.. when Luffy challenegd the WG just to take her back.. that fear is gone... and as story progresses.. she is getting less dark and more cheerful if you haven't noticed.... and you can even look at her statement when Inuarashi warned her that maybe strong pirates will come after her during Zou arc.. and her reply was she has nothing to fear with SH on her side...

So... what I'm trying to say is that she was being mysterious and all... it was SITUATIONAL... and because of a past she cannot run from... however there is no mystery behind Robin right now by the way... she is BEING HERSELF.. with some dark humor but majority of time she is now smiling unlike before.... being true to herself and who she is...

Now... I do not like to bring comparison... but again I will revert back to Law... sure.. he had rough past... WHO DIDN'T have rough past in One Piece!
But during Law's childhood:
1- He had BOTH PARENTS.. and he admired both... stayed with both...
2- He had a sister who
3- He had SO MANY FRIENDS he played with.. and a Nun who took care of them...

And before all of the rough times that happened with Flevance country... he was ACTUALLY HIMSELF... Law's true self is friendly and NOT an edgy character....

Now, I can understand if he was being serious and all until the downfall of Doflamingo... but even after it.. even after Sengoku's words telling him "keep living forward" which is what Corazon would have wanted him to do.... he still puts on this fecade of "I don't care about saving civilians.. I don't care about good deeds" fake ass edgy attitude... It just doesn't work for me at this point...

And the proof that him being edgy is AN ACT and not his true self... is a specific scene on Sunny ship... when Sanji made food... and there were talks about going to Wano/Dressrosa without plans or being ready... and Law was angry at Luffy's carefree... anyway.. the talk was interrupted by Sanji making food for them... and the moment it was announced that Sanji cooked "Sandwiches"... Law's true nature appeared for a SECOND... and he said "I do not like bread"... and he suddenly had a look on his face like "crap I showed more emotions to this matter, I'm falling to their pace"

So... the point is he is trying to "HIDE" his true self... what he is originally like... while his edgy attitude is simply a fecade.. a fake front... while his original self is the Law who loved his parents... had a sister he cared for.. wanted to join her to celebrate the carnival... had many friends.. he liked being with them...

I hope you get the point.. sorry for writing long essays LOL.. but explaining character takes LOTS of details about small things
 
#86
No... she isn't faking it... because we have seen her cheerful side more and more with the crew... and this is simply the result of having some character development which went from:

- Someone who doesn't trust anyone..keeps huge secrets... afraid of her crew turning on her at one point ----> a more cheerful/colorful... but her dark side is still there BECAUSE she was establised since she was 8 years during Ohara... in fact even before that being raised by her uncle with no mother.. no father... being somewhat alone EVEN IN HER CHILDHOOD... sure professor Clover was there... but still you can see that "Lone wolf" side from her when she met Jaguar D. Saul... as their dialog reflected her character that she is lonely... and doesn't have much friends who understand her... So she is not simply trying to "act" Edgy... it's simply no one has given her the chance to be their friends...

However at same time... the more she got to know Jaguar D. Saul... and the more she became friends with him... she started to laugh like him "derishishishi" iconic laugh... and when she LOST everything (her mother/Ohara/Professor clover/Jaguar D. Saul)

She reverted back to being alone... and she stayed that way UNTIL she met the SHs... until Enies Lobby incident... where she had BIG FEAR that the SHs will turn out just like everyone she tried to take shelter with... where they all turned on her once they realized how threatening the WG is...

But after Enies Lobby.. when Luffy challenegd the WG just to take her back.. that fear is gone... and as story progresses.. she is getting less dark and more cheerful if you haven't noticed.... and you can even look at her statement when Inuarashi warned her that maybe strong pirates will come after her during Zou arc.. and her reply was she has nothing to fear with SH on her side...

So... what I'm trying to say is that she was being mysterious and all... it was SITUATIONAL... and because of a past she cannot run from... however there is no mystery behind Robin right now by the way... she is BEING HERSELF.. with some dark humor but majority of time she is now smiling unlike before.... being true to herself and who she is...

Now... I do not like to bring comparison... but again I will revert back to Law... sure.. he had rough past... WHO DIDN'T have rough past in One Piece!
But during Law's childhood:
1- He had BOTH PARENTS.. and he admired both... stayed with both...
2- He had a sister who
3- He had SO MANY FRIENDS he played with.. and a Nun who took care of them...

And before all of the rough times that happened with Flevance country... he was ACTUALLY HIMSELF... Law's true self is friendly and NOT an edgy character....

Now, I can understand if he was being serious and all until the downfall of Doflamingo... but even after it.. even after Sengoku's words telling him "keep living forward" which is what Corazon would have wanted him to do.... he still puts on this fecade of "I don't care about saving civilians.. I don't care about good deeds" fake ass edgy attitude... It just doesn't work for me at this point...

And the proof that him being edgy is AN ACT and not his true self... is a specific scene on Sunny ship... when Sanji made food... and there were talks about going to Wano/Dressrosa without plans or being ready... and Law was angry at Luffy's carefree... anyway.. the talk was interrupted by Sanji making food for them... and the moment it was announced that Sanji cooked "Sandwiches"... Law's true nature appeared for a SECOND... and he said "I do not like bread"... and he suddenly had a look on his face like "crap I showed more emotions to this matter, I'm falling to their pace"

So... the point is he is trying to "HIDE" his true self... what he is originally like... while his edgy attitude is simply a fecade.. a fake front... while his original self is the Law who loved his parents... had a sister he cared for.. wanted to join her to celebrate the carnival... had many friends.. he liked being with them...

I hope you get the point.. sorry for writing long essays LOL.. but explaining character takes LOTS of details about small things
Cool Right, Just wanted your thoughts on it. I agree mostly with that.

I do miss my more Darkerish Robin, it totally gave her alot of differing personality traits we don't see with Nami, and I liked that alot, It's still there but not much., and her complete trust in her crew is adorable with that smile, just enhances it. But that's also why I feel like her characterization fell out a ways. But maybe it's just my opinion.


Now for Law, He may have had people who loved him and they're now gone and all that.

I bring up Naruto and Sasuke. Sasuke had once brought up a good point, as much as I loathe his character and his wank and what not; Is it better to have had nothing and grow up not knowing love of a family or to have had it and grow up without it.

Or something along those lines. I feel what you're trying to say with Law is basically a little off. Just recently did he get his revenge but until then it's all he lived for; just like Sasuke killing Itachi. We can only wait and see. But growing up and being "edgy" like that isn't something you can just throw away, maybe it'll take some time or even years? It's all case by case imo.
 
#87
Cool Right, Just wanted your thoughts on it. I agree mostly with that.

I do miss my more Darkerish Robin, it totally gave her alot of differing personality traits we don't see with Nami, and I liked that alot, It's still there but not much., and her complete trust in her crew is adorable with that smile, just enhances it. But that's also why I feel like her characterization fell out a ways. But maybe it's just my opinion.


Now for Law, He may have had people who loved him and they're now gone and all that.

I bring up Naruto and Sasuke. Sasuke had once brought up a good point, as much as I loathe his character and his wank and what not; Is it better to have had nothing and grow up not knowing love of a family or to have had it and grow up without it.

Or something along those lines. I feel what you're trying to say with Law is basically a little off. Just recently did he get his revenge but until then it's all he lived for; just like Sasuke killing Itachi. We can only wait and see. But growing up and being "edgy" like that isn't something you can just throw away, maybe it'll take some time or even years? It's all case by case imo.
I may agree on the "Law only recently" he had his revenge on Doffy... so we should give him more TIME until he slowly reverts back to his original self (which may not happen if he's going to die this arc, although I would ate his death.. it's just TOO OBVIOUS of a choice, give me a surprising death.. more impactful.. not someone expected by majority of fans LOL)

Anyway.. I agree on that point..

HOWEVR, I disagree with Sasuke's statement... I disagree in that it's NOT BETTER or WORSE... I think it is situational and depends on the PERSON himself... if he is strong enough to take those harsh hits of life... and continue on with the notion that AT LEAST he was priviliged to know his parents.. have friends.. family... and he had love before it was taken away from him... or is he gonna act like "Life sucks dude.. I hate everyone... I perfer I never experienced love and care for family/friends" etc

So I disagree... I think it all depends on the person.. and what mentality he REACHED before those things happend to him...

As an example... Sasuke like the spoiled brat he is... EVEN if he had the same life as Naruto... he would have found reasons to go rouge... by saying "My Dad sucks... he put the 9 tails inside me... I wish I never had a dad... he made all the town hate me as a child... no one wanted me to be his friends.. I hate the family which I never met... I will destroy everything this dad worked for... he was fighting this masked Madara? which is Obito? and trying to save Hidden leaf? and he saved those who loathe me and hate me? all for what?
I will destroy everything he worked for and destroy the hidden leaf

Do you get my point? Sasuke's mentality simply is about seeing the empty half of the glass... while Naruto's mentality is seeing the full half of the glass...

Which is why I think it is situational... depending on character.. everyone would react differently EVEN WITH SAME PAST.... a clear example of that is Doflamingo and Corazon... same past... but each one took different route..

So I don't agree with Sasuke in general... but I'm willing to give Law TIME to slowly have self-realization about who he is..
 
#88
I may agree on the "Law only recently" he had his revenge on Doffy... so we should give him more TIME until he slowly reverts back to his original self (which may not happen if he's going to die this arc, although I would ate his death.. it's just TOO OBVIOUS of a choice, give me a surprising death.. more impactful.. not someone expected by majority of fans LOL)

Anyway.. I agree on that point..

HOWEVR, I disagree with Sasuke's statement... I disagree in that it's NOT BETTER or WORSE... I think it is situational and depends on the PERSON himself... if he is strong enough to take those harsh hits of life... and continue on with the notion that AT LEAST he was priviliged to know his parents.. have friends.. family... and he had love before it was taken away from him... or is he gonna act like "Life sucks dude.. I hate everyone... I perfer I never experienced love and care for family/friends" etc

So I disagree... I think it all depends on the person.. and what mentality he REACHED before those things happend to him...

As an example... Sasuke like the spoiled brat he is... EVEN if he had the same life as Naruto... he would have found reasons to go rouge... by saying "My Dad sucks... he put the 9 tails inside me... I wish I never had a dad... he made all the town hate me as a child... no one wanted me to be his friends.. I hate the family which I never met... I will destroy everything this dad worked for... he was fighting this masked Madara? which is Obito? and trying to save Hidden leaf? and he saved those who loathe me and hate me? all for what?
I will destroy everything he worked for and destroy the hidden leaf

Do you get my point? Sasuke's mentality simply is about seeing the empty half of the glass... while Naruto's mentality is seeing the full half of the glass...

Which is why I think it is situational... depending on character.. everyone would react differently EVEN WITH SAME PAST.... a clear example of that is Doflamingo and Corazon... same past... but each one took different route..

So I don't agree with Sasuke in general... but I'm willing to give Law TIME to slowly have self-realization about who he is..
Yeah I get it, Sasuke is a negative dude. Law doesn't go around blaming everything and everyone around him as caused for his misfortune. (Speaking of Misfortune, My Man Touma is the king of Misfortune and he goes on like it don't matter! haha).

As a person who grew up without a father, I think it's worse to have lost than to have never known. At least if I view it if I lost my mother and I had to live life without her, I would be absolutely devastated. As for my father It's kind like well whatever, I never knew him personally just what other family have told me. It sucks all the same but the feeling of loss of what you had vs the possibilities of it.
 
#89
Yeah I get it, Sasuke is a negative dude. Law doesn't go around blaming everything and everyone around him as caused for his misfortune. (Speaking of Misfortune, My Man Touma is the king of Misfortune and he goes on like it don't matter! haha).

As a person who grew up without a father, I think it's worse to have lost than to have never known. At least if I view it if I lost my mother and I had to live life without her, I would be absolutely devastated. As for my father It's kind like well whatever, I never knew him personally just what other family have told me. It sucks all the same but the feeling of loss of what you had vs the possibilities of it.
Yeah... it all depends on one's own mentality

Who is Touma by the way? a character from a show?or someone in your life?
 

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#91
As a huge Ulti fan myself I would probably vote for Black Maria since she doesn't get enough appreciation here lol.:kriwhat:
In my opinion, Black Maria is that type of person that would go hard on the bed all night if you know what I mean:madmonk::sadgrin::catpole::owo: Ulti on the other hand seem like a softer type that would say "Please go easy on me Onii-chan" lol:myman:(Well, not really due to her angry personality XD:jay-he:)
 
#92
As a huge Ulti fan myself I would probably vote for Black Maria since she doesn't get enough appreciation here lol.:kriwhat:
In my opinion, Black Maria is that type of person that would go hard on the bed all night if you know what I mean:madmonk::sadgrin::catpole::owo: Ulti on the other hand seem like a softer type that would say "Please go easy on me Onii-chan" lol:myman:(Well, not really due to her angry personality XD:jay-he:)
So Black Maria is a Sadomasochist? and Ulti is a Subish type?

Hmm maybe but we need more from them, maybe should just tsundere.
 
#94
As a huge Ulti fan myself I would probably vote for Black Maria since she doesn't get enough appreciation here lol.:kriwhat:
In my opinion, Black Maria is that type of person that would go hard on the bed all night if you know what I mean:madmonk::sadgrin::catpole::owo: Ulti on the other hand seem like a softer type that would say "Please go easy on me Onii-chan" lol:myman:(Well, not really due to her angry personality XD:jay-he:)
Just give me a entire chapter of Black Maria going wild on the "Battlefield" (bed or any other place):steef:
Ulti is on the outside harsh and vulgar but in the Sheets more submissive, probably still vulgar but hey I don't mind some dirty talk :madmonk:
 

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#97
As a huge Ulti fan myself I would probably vote for Black Maria since she doesn't get enough appreciation here lol.:kriwhat:
In my opinion, Black Maria is that type of person that would go hard on the bed all night if you know what I mean:madmonk::sadgrin::catpole::owo: Ulti on the other hand seem like a softer type that would say "Please go easy on me Onii-chan" lol:myman:(Well, not really due to her angry personality XD:jay-he:)
I feel BM is officially the actual BM of this manga

At least for me hehe
 
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