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WB without CoC already two-shotted the strongest L.admiral.

Pre-Yonko BB was soloing Fleet Admiral Sengoku + Garp duo and wounded Fleet Admiral Sengoku.

Sabo with 3 veteran level fighters fought 2 L.admirals, and wounded Ladmiral Fujitora.

Nerfed wounded YC2 Ace blocked Ladmiral Aokiji's sneak attack with ease, L.akainu needed hierarchical DF advantage to win against nerfed wounded YC2 Ace.

Old Rayleigh completely stopped Lizaru as Sentoumaru told us.

So Sentomaru was not lying when he said Rayleigh stopped Kizaru, but it was only in that moment that Rayleigh stopped Kizaru, throughout the rest of the fight like i already showed before it was made clear that Sentomaru and the pacifista had everything under control
Sentomaru: ''The Dark King stood in our way. Not even uncle Kizaru could past him. What could we do?''
 
#23
WB without CoC already two-shotted the strongest L.admiral.

Pre-Yonko BB was soloing Fleet Admiral Sengoku + Garp duo and wounded Fleet Admiral Sengoku.

Sabo with 3 veteran level fighters fought 2 L.admirals, and wounded Ladmiral Fujitora.

Nerfed wounded YC2 Ace blocked Ladmiral Aokiji's sneak attack with ease, L.akainu needed hierarchical DF advantage to win against nerfed wounded YC2 Ace.

Old Rayleigh completely stopped Lizaru as Sentoumaru told us.
erkan we already figured in the other thread that you can't comprehend the series why are you still trying to argue
 
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WB without CoC already two-shotted the strongest L.admiral.

Pre-Yonko BB was soloing Fleet Admiral Sengoku + Garp duo and wounded Fleet Admiral Sengoku.

Sabo with 3 veteran level fighters fought 2 L.admirals, and wounded Ladmiral Fujitora.

Nerfed wounded YC2 Ace blocked Ladmiral Aokiji's sneak attack with ease, L.akainu needed hierarchical DF advantage to win against nerfed wounded YC2 Ace.

Old Rayleigh completely stopped Lizaru as Sentoumaru told us.
Gura Neckbeard and his whole crew ran away from Papazuki:vistalaugh::vistalaugh::vistalaugh:
 
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He ran away leaving a valuable hostage and giving on the battleship he wanted:hihihi::hihihi:
Ships couldn't be taken, it either would be destroyed or they would sink it, even Bonney's ship wasn't available despite easily defeating her.

They could kill Bonney and steal her DF but they weren't planning that yet, they were focused on getting to another island at the moment, not fighting.
 
#30
Ships couldn't be taken, it either would be destroyed or they would sink it, even Bonney's ship wasn't available despite easily defeating her.

They could kill Bonney and steal her DF but they weren't planning that yet, they were focused on getting to another island at the moment, not fighting.
There is one ship which Blackbeard saw it. One ship , not two ships.
Stop making excuse for Blackbeard running away from akainu.
‘Your boy literally beg for mercy in front of dying half Whitebeard . Pathetic
 
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There is one ship which Blackbeard saw it. One ship , not two ships.
Stop making excuse for Blackbeard running away from akainu.
‘Your boy literally beg for mercy in front of dying half Whitebeard . Pathetic
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so vip can charge tags thing now ?
Learn to read: Larines always sink the ships if they understand they are losing.



And; the ships would be destroyed during the battle, example: bonney's ship is missing despite easily beating her.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ard-retreated-when-he-could-beat-akainu.5573/

As for stealing L.akainu's fruit that's even funnier, if Marco survived a loss against BB and not lose his fruit you think L.akainu wouldn't survive? He would lose but wouldn't lose his fruit.
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Learn singular and plural words before debate me. Blackbeard see one battleship. illiterate African man
Lol what is even your point L.akainu fanboy? L.akainu brought two ships and they would sink both if they understand they are losing. Debunked.
 
#33
Sorry to dissapoint anyone who wants to see their headcanon matchups but it's not gonna happen.

The only Admiral who will be defeated will be Akainu and it won't be by anyone you think.

Matchups will happen to some extent but they won't come to a conclusion and it will be made clear that nobody stands a chance against the Admirals, not even Luffy and Zoro.

The Admirals are Oda's favourite characters and homages to his favourite real life actors you have to be delusional to think they will get the usual villain treatment like Kaido.

@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung @GreenEggsAHam
@Wanji CUCKSMOKE @MarineHQ62 @Midnight Delight @VersusPhD @God D usopp @Owl Ki @Blackbeard @TheKnightOfTheSea @silverfire @kenedyfake @Finalbeta @God Tier Sovereignty @Le Fishe D. Crydo @Van @ranady @The White Crane @AkainuTheGrimReaper
But that would make an extreme diff fight for luffy zoro and sanji that much more satisfying. Give the monster trio broken abilities and still have the admirals push them to extreme. That'd be the best treatment oda could give a villain tbh
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The most important thing to keep in mind to understand why they won't be defeated is that there is no need for them to be defeated.
The only guy who needs to be defeated will be Akainu because of his goal and willpower.
Kizaru doesn't have any willpower and also doesn't really care, so when Akainu gets defeated or gets close to being defeated he will leave the scene.
Fujitora and Ryukogyo will switch sides during the final war so they won't need to get defeated either.
So 1 (kizatu)out of 5 Admirals doesn't have allot of will power. So that's your reasoning?
 
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But that would make an extreme diff fight for luffy zoro and sanji that much more satisfying. Give the monster trio broken abilities and still have the admirals push them to extreme. That'd be the best treatment oda could give a villain tbh
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So 1 (kizatu)out of 5 Admirals doesn't have allot of will power. So that's your reasoning?
When the time comes it will be made clear that the Admirals are the strongest characters in the series, even stronger than the yonko.
The strawhats and revolutionaries will face the Admirals but they won't be able to defeat them cause they are too powerfull.
When Fujitora and Ryu switch sides the tables will turn but then Akainu will go all out in final villain fashion and take on everybody by himself.

Only Akainu has the unrelenting will to terminate all pirates because he is blinded by hatred for some reason which we will find out later.
There is no need to defeat Fujitora and Ryu cause they will switch sides anyways.
And Kizaru always wants to go the easiest/least troublesome way so he wont back Akainu when he is up against everybody.
 
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When the time comes it will be made clear that the Admirals are the strongest characters in the series, even stronger than the yonko.
The strawhats and revolutionaries will face the Admirals but they won't be able to defeat them cause they are too powerfull.
When Fujitora and Ryu switch sides the tables will turn but then Akainu will go all out in final villain fashion and take on everybody by himself.

Only Akainu has the unrelenting will to terminate all pirates because he is blinded by hatred for some reason which we will find out later.
There is no need to defeat Fujitora and Ryu cause they will switch sides anyways.
And Kizaru always wants to go the easiest/least troublesome way so he wont back Akainu when he is up against everybody.
Whyd the top admiral have to high diff a half dead yonko with cancer who couldn't use haki?

I think you're letting your bias get the better of you. But as long as you're happy I don't mind.
 
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Whyd the top admiral have to high diff a half dead yonko with cancer who couldn't use haki?

I think you're letting your bias get the better of you. But as long as you're happy I don't mind.
The admirals held back in marineford to not destroy the place.
You saw what happened to Punk Hazard when 2 admirals went all out... did marineford look anything like Punk Hazard?
Akainu stopped WB with his hands in his pockets.


Any admiral could have single handedly wiped out all of WBs forces but they would have wiped out their own forces in the same breath as well.
 
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The admirals held back in marineford to not destroy the place.
You saw what happened to Punk Hazard when 2 admirals went all out... did marineford look anything like Punk Hazard?
Akainu stopped WB with his hands in his pockets.


Any admiral could have single handedly wiped out all of WBs forces but they would have wiped out their own forces in the same breath as well.
So take heavy damage and leaving yourself in a weakened state for the sake of property and people you don't care about whatsoever?

Let whitebeard potentially sink the island or cause even more damage? Whitbeard could've easily turned the island over. I don't think this excuse is valid for why akainu high diffed a half dead yonko with cancer.

You would think that if admirals were so strong they'd have speed blitzed white beard as soon as he appeared and killed him immediately.

We see a 2 yonkos can take on 5 yc tier characters. Why couldnt 5 admiral tiers beat 1 half dead yonko with cancer and his yc before he got his boat to the shore?

Why even send out their own forces when they can literally just kill them while they are at sea?

I think this is Hella reaching.
 
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So take heavy damage and leaving yourself in a weakened state for the sake of property and people you don't care about whatsoever?

Let whitebeard potentially sink the island or cause even more damage? Whitbeard could've easily turned the island over. I don't think this excuse is valid for why akainu high diffed a half dead yonko with cancer.

You would think that if admirals were so strong they'd have speed blitzed white beard as soon as he appeared and killed him immediately.

We see a 2 yonkos can take on 5 yc tier characters. Why couldnt 5 admiral tiers beat 1 half dead yonko with cancer and his yc before he got his boat to the shore?

Why even send out their own forces when they can literally just kill them while they are at sea?

I think this is Hella reaching.
I don't know why you guys always use inconclusive questions to argue manga facts.

We know what Punk Hazard looked like when 2 Admirals went all out.
Marineford during and after the war looked nothing like Punk Hazard despite 3 Admirals, 1 Fleet Admiral AND Garp being present.
So it is factual that the Admirals held back, there is literally no sense in debating that and it's not an excuse either, since it's factual.
If the Admirals went all out they would've destroyed the entire island themselves so yes logically they had no choice but to take the risk of killing Whitebeard before he could sink it.
Admirals can't speedblitz... that's not how One Piece works...
Characters in One Piece who are stronger than others don't "speedblitz" them.
Literally the only occasions where anyone got speedblitzed was Luffy vs Blueno and Luffy vs Kaido, those are literally the sole exceptions.

When Aokiji defeated all the strawhats combined he didn't speedblitz them... he just defeated them casually with his powers.
The reason why Kizaru "speedblitzed" the supernovas was cause none of them had CoO + he is made of light and therefore speed is his main attribute when fighting.

The Admirals cant simply speedblitz everyone, nobody can but they would have enough firepower to wipe out any army by themselves.
The Admirals are called the "World Governments strongest military power" even so they have the buster call which is part of their military power and is used to sink/wipe islands off the world map...

Why do you think Akainu and Aokiji chose an entire and also unhabitated island (Punk Hazard) as their "arena" for a simple 1v1 fight...?
Rogers and WBs entire crews clashed/fought a skirmish on a way smaller island for multiple days and the destruction wasnt even 1% of what Aokiji and Akainu did to punk hazard in a 1v1.

Why even send out their own forces when they can literally just kill them while they are at sea?
The Admirals are high level world government officers... they are working for the Navy and stand under command of the Fleet Admiral.
They are not pirates sailing around and destroying islands and endangering the general civilisation.
If the Admirals were sent to destroy the yonko it would ignite a war and they would have to go all out which would result in entire civilisations getting wiped off the respective islands which is not the marines goal whatsoever...
Also simply from a story telling and world building perspective it wouldnt make sense for the marines to use the Admirals as weapons to wipe out the yonko, cause the yonko are a part of the 3 great powers and it was already stated that if those powers get disrupted the world would fall into disarray.

We see a 2 yonkos can take on 5 yc tier characters. Why couldnt 5 admiral tiers beat 1 half dead yonko with cancer and his yc before he got his boat to the shore?
If you remember Whitebeard came from underwater so how...?
Akainu took on all of WBs commanders at the same time and they werent even able to scratch him while Kaido was injured by way less people even including some of those same WB commanders who werent able to scratch Akainu.
 
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