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Doflamingo's level.
Weaker than the YC1's stronger than the rest. At worst equal to YC2s. Likely inbetween YC1's and YC2's.
Portrayal
> Needed 2 of the top 4 SN to take him down
> Was struck by two ultimate techniques by both SN, GK and KKG respectively
> Received favourable portrayal to a YC2, literally standing head and shoulders above him
> Is part of the third great power in the OP world that serves to maintain balance and one of the top members of it. He's not number 1, that's Mihawk, but has a claim for number 2. Individuals that are there to counter a Yonko and his/her crew
> Received favourable portrayal to Kuma twice, who many peg as a YC1 individual.
> Beating him puts you on the map of a Yonko
> Beating him puts an Admiral on you
> Needed an entire country to be taken down
> Left the MC in a coma for 3 days, and the other guy almost dead
Feats
Base Doffy slapped Law around. Casually disposed of Sanji. Smacked Smoker and the G5 around. Made fools of two WBP commanders, Jozu and Atmos, cut down Oars.
Non hakified awakening
did this to a guy literally covered in haki
There's no trade off going on there. Luffy could move freely when he used G4 against Katakuri. Oda even clarified it in an SBS
pre GK Doffy was easily reacting to g2/g3 Luffy.
DR Mingo vs DR Luffy without outside interference and factors results in Mingo's victory. The difference between pre GK Doffy and post GK Doffy is noticeable.
This was stated about GK
Law was planning to take down Doffy for years, was willing to cut down on his remaining life span, all of that just to be able to land GK, for that one moment.
Taking down Doflamingo was Law's life goal.
Doflamingo then got hit with jet stamp and counter shock after standing up, once again undoing some of the stitches he had done
Post GK Mingo couldn't keep up with Luffy's g2 and was getting overwhelmed
whilst pre GK Doffy was easily reacting to g2/g3 Luffy.
The difference as I've said is noticeable. Even though Mingo stitched himself up, it affected him, so much that the first thing he does when he is up is reapplying his patch
While Mingo may not be able to best G4 Luffy in CQC he'd be able to dodge more hits, as illustrated above. Plus if Mingo plays it smart he can keep Luffy at bay using his awakening. With awakening pestering Luffy, Mingo can potentially attack Luffy from the sides or back and aim for the head.
Moreover, CIS/PIS/ and plot armor restricted, Doffy takes the W here. Doffy, whilst critically injured (hit with GK, injection shot, and counter shock), survived one round of G4. Luffy could barely keep his eyes opened and was exhausted by that, so much that Gyats had to carry him around.
And this time Mingo won't 'forget' to use his haki on his awakening against g4, like he did, aka plot armor.
but was capable of using it against base Luffy and fodders
clear plot armor protection. Good luck trying to constantly run away and hide during the 10 minutes in which he lacks haki, from a guy who can turn the entire surroundings into strings.
If there's no pis then Doflamingo someone deemed callous and calculating, someone who would seize the smallest weakness in a fight, someone against whom you'd lose your life if you lose your cool
won't just stand there and let Luffy powerup and underestimate him.
Without the plot armor, the ability to use haki, or the energy to constantly keep his eyes open, and without the gladiators stalling Doflamingo, Mingo catches up to Luffy and kills him.
Before someone brings the sbs, this is the official translation
Here's the proper one. Oda says Luffy would need to tough it out.
Tough it out- to endure what's coming.
Pay attention to how there's no risk of not being able to move but Doflamingo's awakening managed to weaken Luffy so much that he was trembling all over and needed Gyats to carry him
Regarding the Cracker argument.
Doflamingo's defeat was attributed to two supernovae
So Cracker was sent to deal with one half of the combatants to which the win over Doflamingo was attributed to. And even so, his mother believed he would lose.
If you think the above implies Cracker>Doffy, then you must also think that Jack is > Katakuri, since Jack was sent to bring the guy that just defeated Katakuri, and also bring Law.
Weaker than the YC1's stronger than the rest. At worst equal to YC2s. Likely inbetween YC1's and YC2's.
Portrayal
> Needed 2 of the top 4 SN to take him down
> Was struck by two ultimate techniques by both SN, GK and KKG respectively
> Beating him puts an Admiral on you
> Left the MC in a coma for 3 days, and the other guy almost dead
Base Doffy slapped Law around. Casually disposed of Sanji. Smacked Smoker and the G5 around. Made fools of two WBP commanders, Jozu and Atmos, cut down Oars.
This was stated about GK
Doflamingo then got hit with jet stamp and counter shock after standing up, once again undoing some of the stitches he had done
Moreover, CIS/PIS/ and plot armor restricted, Doffy takes the W here. Doffy, whilst critically injured (hit with GK, injection shot, and counter shock), survived one round of G4. Luffy could barely keep his eyes opened and was exhausted by that, so much that Gyats had to carry him around.
And this time Mingo won't 'forget' to use his haki on his awakening against g4, like he did, aka plot armor.
If there's no pis then Doflamingo someone deemed callous and calculating, someone who would seize the smallest weakness in a fight, someone against whom you'd lose your life if you lose your cool
Without the plot armor, the ability to use haki, or the energy to constantly keep his eyes open, and without the gladiators stalling Doflamingo, Mingo catches up to Luffy and kills him.
Before someone brings the sbs, this is the official translation
Tough it out- to endure what's coming.
Pay attention to how there's no risk of not being able to move but Doflamingo's awakening managed to weaken Luffy so much that he was trembling all over and needed Gyats to carry him
Doflamingo's defeat was attributed to two supernovae
So Cracker was sent to deal with one half of the combatants to which the win over Doflamingo was attributed to. And even so, his mother believed he would lose.
If you think the above implies Cracker>Doffy, then you must also think that Jack is > Katakuri, since Jack was sent to bring the guy that just defeated Katakuri, and also bring Law.
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