The baiting Room

[Shisui]

bit of an overestimation here
but he did more damage than marco could purely regenerate from
he didnt recover from that like the other hits he took in the war.

Maybe I did overexaggerate but Marco would still get put to sleep by Garp

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

marco doesnt seem to have it
still one of the strongest fighters in the verse lol.

Yes, because you don't need COC people just falling for the hype. I cannot see sakazuki having ACoC thats just weird

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

biased panel choices imo
you push usopp having coc and think sanji devalues it ?
the coward in the crew
predisposition for a king?
rofl.
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think you didnt understand what I said
sanji showing that
has no correlation to whether he gets coc or not
am saying its a possibility that coc is linked to blood thirst , kindness etc
however no direct link has been shown in the story..........

for example luffy's ability to understand others is seen in observation haki
not coc...

Conquers is linked to willpower. I know sanji having showing strong willpower does not garentee him having it however it does show that he can be a suitable candidate for it and him having it wouldnt be outrageous.

Yea with the bolded that's just speculation from me.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

stand above others
made a name for themselves in the world

But he's a leader, Buggy made a name for himself yet has no CoC, celestial dragon stands above other yet no COC

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

His lies become truths. Unless you wanna ignore that and just push it to the side like some headcanon go ahead. But that’s factually canon. Another thing is Usopp barely has a handle on the other Haki forms. And the only characters to have shown Haki blooms have been Luffy, Zoro, and Usopp. And Usopp awakened CoO in an arc of conquerors where the first domino falls.

well am not ignoring that
we know usopp's ceiling as a combatant
we know he wants to be brave
him getting coc undersells it far more than someone like sanji getting it ....
you have to admit that
sanji has potential to hang among strong people and usopp does not

 

[Indigo]

neither Sanji or Usopp will have CoC, shut up.

 

[bennbeckman]

I think Ussop is getting it too, but to say Sanji is wishy washy and Ussop hasn’t been is disingenuous. And if the past doesn’t matter once Ussop commits to being all in then it’s hypocritical to say it wouldn’t be the same for Sanji.

You can make the argument that you don’t think Sani ever will take that stand, but you can’t say if he did then he isn’t entitled to the same treatment as Ussop. I’ve got no problem with you disliking Sanji and not wanting him to have it, but I have to call a disingenuous argument out when I see it on principle.

This from someone who up until this point doesn’t think Sanji has shown he should have it, and doesn’t really think he needs it.

I personally dont think either will have it for showing too much cowardice (Just my opinion)

Usopp: Water 7
Sanji: Zou-WCI

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

But he's a leader, Buggy made a name for himself yet has no CoC, celestial dragon stands above other yet no COC

I should think uh
those who hold
world strongest titles
shouldnt be compared to celestial dragons and a pirate captain like buggy
but thats just me.

 

[Julius]

difference between gods and pathetic clowns like lanji

@LANJI CUCKSMOKE @Ten Yaksha Blother

CoC has nothing to do with it, why does Oden have it? Katakuri? Don Chinjao? lmao
So looks like you need to live dumb to have CoC?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I personally dont think either will have it for showing too much cowardice (Just my opinion)

Usopp: Water 7
Sanji: Zou-WCI

That’s a fair stance. For Ussop, Oda has just been so consistent following through with his lies. That and I can see him getting CoC as the moment he achieves his “brave warrior of the sea” dream. It’s a dream without a real concrete end point and I’m not sure anything would be a better objective conclusion than CoC.

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

world strongest titles

admirals have a strength related titles, yet no COC simply sanji EoS will show the same things and more

 

[Adam 🍎]

or his mama has it
increasing the chances one of her kids does too
kind of implied it can be genetically linked with the comments about dragon after luffy used it.
* end of response to dyna*


marco doesnt seem to have it
still one of the strongest fighters in the verse lol.

Lineage could be it but my disdain for inherited power is massive

 

[ShinichiMugi]

Spoilers tomorrow maybe

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Yes right because Kaido and Big MOm are simps right? Conquerors are usually stupid people as well cuz they’re stupid brave. Kaido wants to push past the limits of his durability. He literally can’t kill himself. He idolizes Oden because that would be one hell of a good fight for him. That’s why he killed the old Hag, she got in the way of a fight of a lifetime that comes by ever so often. And big mom is such a mess, I don’t wanna even stick up for her.

Seems like you have an issue with sanji than the value conqueners considering you're willy to excuse other character poor performances but not sanji.

 

[Ricassian]

We need panel time for Marco vs King, Killer vs Hawkins, Drake vs Apoo (?), Jimbe vs Who'sWho
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[Peroroncino]

I'm back now and smelling good as always. What's going on here?

 

[Adam 🍎]

difference between gods and pathetic clowns like lanji

@LANJI CUCKSMOKE @Ten Yaksha Blother

Mihawk literally told Zoro the very next scene - Dont live your life hastily

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Lineage could be it but my disdain for inherited power is massive

granted katakuri is also seen as sort of a leader aside from mama
so that could also be a factor

 

[Blother Fertitta]

I think Ussop is getting it too, but to say Sanji is wishy washy and Ussop hasn’t been is disingenuous. And if the past doesn’t matter once Ussop commits to being all in then it’s hypocritical to say it wouldn’t be the same for Sanji.

You can make the argument that you don’t think Sani ever will take that stand, but you can’t say if he did then he isn’t entitled to the same treatment as Ussop. I’ve got no problem with you disliking Sanji and not wanting him to have it, but I have to call a disingenuous argument out when I see it on principle.

This from someone who up until this point doesn’t think Sanji has shown he should have it, and doesn’t really think he needs it.

The biggest reason I push for Usopp having CoC is his entire character is in itself the adventure. His story for the past 1000 chapters leads to him awakening it at the end. Him dying a death of a Legend is what the story is revolving around. That’s who he is, he’s Usopp a Brave Warrior of the Sea. He will be known as such at the end. Characters like Zoro and Luffy were shown to be built different since a young age. They’ve been training, fighting for so long and have ambitions that surpass all others around them. Sanji possesses no such ambitions. Sanji from an early age did not show anything wild like say Law, Luffy, Or Zoro. Sanji simply continued working for Zeff.

Usopp on the other went on fake adventures with a crew he Captained. Everything Usopp does that’s Fake, eventually happens. This is a core part of his character.

Sanji exhibits nothing admirable like that. His kindness isn’t even something extraordinary. Nami is kinder then him. He was prepared to abandon the children in Punk Hazard until Nami said otherwise.

 

[Ricassian]

I'm back now and smelling good as always. What's going on here?

We need panel time for Marco vs King, Killer vs Hawkins, Drake vs Apoo (?), Jimbe vs Who'sWho
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