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Luffy & Zoro feel like the only true conquers when I think of what a CoC user should be. For Ussop it feels like the end of a character journey. I don’t feel that way with Sanji, I’m fine with him just being a really strong cook who isn’t driven by ambition like Luffy & Zoro, nor is it tied to his dream like Ussop.

Sanji might get it with some of the hints it feels like we’re picking up recently but imo it’s not necessary. Even the argument of him being royalty doesn’t work for me because Sanji wants no part of being a ruler.
Exactly, Sanji seems to be the opposite of a conqueror. He’s a normal cook and his ambition is not strength related. Judge is a terrible king and Sanji chose to be like Zeff. That doesn’t mean that Sanji will be weak eos.
 
If Mihawk had it then why didn't he utilized it at marineford? I remember him saying "I don't remember the face of all insects I crush" why did he even used his sword if he has CoC? He doesn't have It and I remember LOLO bois saying that CoC was useless. And look at them now, just accept that Shanks is above Mihawk.
Why didn’t Garp, Whitebeard, Boa, Sengoku, Doffy use it? It wasn’t the time for the story to expand on CoC….
 
dont think you need conquerors to beat another one
but I think after luffy got it down
most coc users are prob just for fodder clearing theatrics anyway.

its the ones that go beyond that , that can be very problematic
 
If Mihawk had it then why didn't he utilized it at marineford? I remember him saying "I don't remember the face of all insects I crush" why did he even used his sword if he has CoC? He doesn't have It and I remember LOLO bois saying that CoC was useless. And look at them now, just accept that Shanks is above Mihawk.
Dude, why didn't Jinbei use normal Haki in Marineford? because Oda didn't know shit back then.

Marineford is a relly bad place to use for power scaling and comparing who should have what in terms of power.

Marco used to be made fun of the entire series because of Marineford, and now he comes in here and keeps playing and bullying two YC by himself for 20+ chapters.

Mihawk will be another one that his skills will show up later on compared to Marineford.
 
Big Mom and Kaido are another league of monsters. If they can maintain territory for 20 years against people like Whitebeard, Garp, Sengoku, Akainu, then they damn well are worthy of having Kings Haki.
Sanji is going to be left hand man of the pirate king, and be apart of the crew and that will change the world and surpass all other crew.

Your point was how Sanji would devalue conquers when thiers already been conqueners that have done that already.

Your willing to look past thier short-comming but sanji's. Like I said your issue is with sanji.
 
Cracker defeated. Caesar defeated. Magellan defeated. LOL
Who’s still here? Luffy lmao
You know damn well they all defeated Lufft but bcs of plot ofc Luffy had to win

Oh and Moira rekt Zoro and Luffy
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Point is - your theory is shit mate

Plenty of non coc users beat coc users
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dont think you need conquerors to beat another one
but I think after luffy got it down
most coc users are prob just for fodder clearing theatrics anyway.

its the ones that go beyond that , that can be very problematic
Ofc you dont

Otherwise Beetle Smile > Zoro
 
Sanji is going to be left hand man of the pirate king, and be apart of the crew and that will change the world and surpass all other crew.

Your point was how Sanji would devalue conquers when thiers already been conqueners that have done that already.

Your willing to look past thier short-comming but sanji's. Like I said your issue is with sanji.
Left hand man stuff isn’t real. If that was the case Scooper Gaban would also have CoC. Marco would have CoC. Sanji devalues CoC just by existing. Wait. Sanji is an L just by existing.

I can never respect Sanji as a CoC user if in a non duel beats the shit out of his captain who comes to save him. His disrespect on Luffy showed that he was only but a cornered rat under heat, attacking even his own.
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You know damn well they all defeated Lufft but bcs of plot ofc Luffy had to win

Oh and Moira rekt Zoro and Luffy
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Point is - your theory is shit mate

Plenty of non coc users beat coc users
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Ofc you dont

Otherwise Beetle Smile > Zoro
Zoro was the last man standing in Thriller Bark. Moria and Oars were bodied by Luffy at the end.
 
Luffy eos - all three types of haki / advanced
Zoro eos - adv CoA (better than Luffy maybe ), adv CoC and really good CoO
Sanji eos - really good CoA and adv CoO
Haki specialization doesn't apply to other people.

If Luffy specializes in CoC then he will just be better at it than his other forms of Haki.
Zoro may specialize in CoA but that does not mean he is better at it than everyone else and you forget but alot of what Zoro is doing now is amplified by Enma. In reality his own armament lacks the power to cut Kaido, hence his reliance on Enma.
 
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