Powers & Abilities The biggest Flaw in Rootbear's FLAT EARTH APPROACH : The lack of consistency

Who are/is more consistent in supporting their Reality Denial


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#1
So fundamentally from the perspective of anyone who isn't @Rootbeer himself, he resembles, well in his thought process at least, someone who believes that "The Earth is Flat", that is not to say Rootbear is a literal Flat Earth Believer, I mean he has categorically stated that he doesn't believe in Flat Earth.

But Flat Earth Believer comparison comes from the fact that a believer of "Earth is Flat' concept is a Reality Denair
And in that sense Root Bear who believes "Zoro does not have advanced Conqueror's Haki, or Conqueror's Haki Coating" is One Piece version of someone who believes "The Earth is Flat" and hence we can call his version of One Piece theorization as I described yesterday The Flat Earth Approach

He will say every Advanced CoC attack is not touching
I will show him at least 10 AdvCoC Attacks that are touching






But then he will call around 20 occurrences in manga as "Evidences that are irrelevant"
Yes he actually said "Evidences that are irrelevant' with straight face
It only contradicts if you focus on evidences that are irrelevant in the story's context..
"evidences that are irrelevant"

You're killing me:risitameh::risitameh::risitameh: @Mr. Reloaded the next trial is for him:ihaha::ihaha::ihaha::ihaha:
Although all these Kaido panels sorta hints Kaido doesn't even know how to use No Touch Haki, at least Internal destriction.
Even if you look at this panel, this looks different than Roger and Whitebeard's no touch clash, its probably because this is Luffy's Barrier that Kaido is actually "Touching"



Since in Roger and Whitebeard, both are using No Touch Ryou with their CoC, the clash is happening in the middle, where as since Kaido doesn't have No Touch Ryou/Internal destruction, what ever you wanna call it, and Luffy is the only one using it, that middle clash is not shown


Luffy vs Kaido looks more similar to Zoro vs King where Zoro is the only one who can use no touch and not King, only difference being, unlike Kaido, King can't even use CoC


But that is a topic for another discussion.
I only brought it up because No Touch Haki is Categorically, it is clearly stated in manga, Version of advanced CoA that Luffy learned from Hyogoro


Pretty sure Rootbear called the panel I posted above "AdvCoC" even though Luffy learned advCoC for the first time in chapter 1010
"Then he says No Touch defensive use is CoA yet no touch offensive use is CoC"

Then Oda will respond to that when the fuck did I say that shit lol :suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure:

And hence I will ask him to prove, I will say okay @Rootbeer I respect you, and I understand that mental framework of someone who denies reality is wired a bit differently than that of a normal human being but can you at least show me a panel that states what you are stating and to that Root bear will say

How about your eyes focus only on these 2 single panels..




Cause that's really just what matters and only what should..
I guess this would be similar to a person who believes Earth is Flat saying
How about you stop using Satellite images, just look underneath you, does the ground look curved to you? Are your shoes curving? Those are the only two things that matter
Or simply that "Who says everything needs to be stated"
Where does it says everything needs to be stated?..
Similar to an "Earth is Flat" believer saying
Where does it say everything needs to be scientifically proven and tested



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#9
Oda is inconsistent from the get go, you need to weight in that thought.. It's part of the story..
Just look at how Marineford was inconsistent.. It was a shit show, a very good shit show but still a shit show..



But then he will call around 20 occurrences in manga as "Evidences that are irrelevant"
Yes he actually said "Evidences that are irrelevant' with straight face
Why are they irrelevant though?.. Because it doesn't reflect what was presented when AdCoC was revealed which is the most critical importance to determine said power in the narrative.. Why do i even need to explain this..



Although all these Kaido panels sorta hints Kaido doesn't even know how to use No Touch Haki, at least Internal destriction.
Even if you look at this panel, this looks different than Roger and Whitebeard's no touch clash, its probably because this is Luffy's Barrier that Kaido is actually "Touching"

Bruh..



But that is a topic for another discussion.
I only brought it up because No Touch Haki is Categorically, it is clearly stated in manga, Version of advanced CoA that Luffy learned from Hyogoro


Pretty sure Rootbear called the panel I posted above "AdvCoC" even though Luffy learned advCoC for the first time in chapter 1010
"Then he says No Touch defensive use is CoA yet no touch offensive use is CoC"
You get this part so wrong.. CoA Emission is the only ability that can be used defensively..

That's another irrelevant panel because it's part of his training.. Luffy practiced the range he needed to be for Haki to flow in things.. The max distance he has to be to flow Haki in things or beings.. This part of the training was only useful for the final attack against Kaido, the Bajrang gun, he had to flow Haki in his CoC Coating to create a type of screen.. Similar to Galaxy Impact..



You can't just stand in front of an ennemy, extend your arm and expect he's gonna let you flow Haki in him.. That's not how Internal Destruction CoA is used.. You need to make contact and apply force to the Haki flow to decuplate the result..

That's what Red Roc was in the first place.. Internal Destruction CoA used offensively through impact force..


 
#13
Back to Deflecting right away uh..

You said Kaido didn't know how to no touch.. And i show you no touch panel..
That was Luffy not Kaido
He's touching Kaidos club which is half way drawn as shockwave from Luffys no touch CoA is covering remaining club

And that is consistent as Kaido has not shown no touch CoA in any other of his attacks
 
#14
That was Luffy not Kaido
He's touching Kaidos club which is half way drawn as shockwave from Luffys no touch CoA is covering remaining club

And that is consistent as Kaido has not shown no touch CoA in any other of his attacks
The Black Haki line separation mean it's both..

If CoA was involved it would of been like this..


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Calling this man the equivalent to a flat earther is wild :milaugh: but not inaccurate!



Not inaccurate at all :cheers:
You put Zoro in the same panel with them.. When it's not even remotely the same.. They are all using AdCoC as an instant charge and discharge of Haki trails.. Look at Zoro, KoH trails just floating around.. That's clearly not AdCoC.. Stop being in delusions like the Carrot fans..
 
#15
The Black Haki line separation mean it's both..

If CoA was involved it would of been like this..


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You put Zoro in the same panel with them.. When it's not even remotely the same.. They are all using AdCoC as an instant charge and discharge of Haki trails.. Look at Zoro, KoH trails just floating around.. That's clearly not AdCoC.. Stop being in delusions like the Carrot fans..
Can you post a panel of a direct attack from Kaido and not a clash where he is not touching

Otherwise Kaido can't use no touch Haki
 
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